Re: Stus-List Main sail slides
I'll second (third?) the recommendation for McLube. I also spray the mainsail slides with McLube when I put the main on the mast and as I have the stick out each winter I do the mast in the spring as well. I also don't need the winch to raise the main sail, just for final tension, and it drops into the stack pack with no fuss. Ken Heaton Anne Tobin S/V Salazar - Can 54955 CC 37/40 XL - Hull # 67 Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia On 2 July 2015 at 00:19, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Just before I raise the genoa, I have the sail flaked on deck and spray the entire luff tape lightly w McLube and then just before hoist spray the top two feet of the genoa luff tape heavily with McLube. I spray the mainsail slides w McLube when I put the main on the mast and occasionally during the season, I spray them again, just before a hoist. It makes a big difference, and I don't need the winch to raise either sail, just for final tension. Chuck -- *From: *Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc: *Indigo ind...@thethomsons.us *Sent: *Wednesday, July 1, 2015 10:23:15 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Main sail slides My sail-maintenance guy taught me a great trick with regard to the main (and Genoa track). He gave me a slide for the track which I tie to the main halyard and to a recovery line and then wrap with lint free cloth - tied in place. I then soak the lint free cloth with Mclube and run it up and down the track. Cleans and lubes the track. My main drops by itself - and can be jumped at the mast very easily!! -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Jul 1, 2015, at 17:37, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: That makes a big difference. Each year my kids go up the mast, clean out critters from the winter, and dry lube the track. What a difference! The lube also seems to discourage critters (mostly spiders) from building in the track. Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 STL -- *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 3:30 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Main sail slides McLube on the slides on occasion makes a big difference. I don't need a wench but the admiral helps out! Joel ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change
Doesn't say much good for your competition then but you do have a slippery boat Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I totally concur.. You want the stuff to perform as designed.. You apply it as prescribed. If the tetracycline was as effective as claimed, it would be in the paint from the factory. BTW, My burnished Trinidad Pro is still pristine (I check it regularly when we swim) after being constantly in the water 1.5 years. It's not real long yet but that is 1.5 years continuous. My competition scrubs their VC-17 bottom every week, I scrub it never yet we're fast enough to consistently show-up on the podium despite our inexperienced team's frequent mistakes and my old bedsheet sails. :-) -Francois 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA Message: 6 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 01:07:36 + (UTC) From: Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change Message-ID: 1958787858.6613606.1435712856109.javamail.zim...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think any drug like tetracycline will kill lots of germs and bacteria but will dissolve so fast in water, it will be gone in a few days. I wouldn't add anything to bottom paint for fear of jeopardizing the adhesion and slow release of it's own toxins. I've heard of people mixing in Round Up and I've heard the same people complain that their paint flaked off during haulout. I ask them if they sanded with 80 grit paper before painting as directed, and can tell by their confused expression, they never read the directions. I respect the guys who write the application instructions, follow those as close as I can and I've enjoyed great success. I understand your frustration with VC-17. I used VC-Offshore for 8 years and got fed up with the fouling. Had to clean the bottom each week to stay ahead of it. Used a piece of carpet and sometimes a 3M pad. Switched to a better paint, Micron 66, and love it. Kept the boat in all winter and the fouling looked pretty bad this May. All the boats in y marina had a fur attached to their hulls. I was surprised how easy it came off easily with a soft deck brush, and very little pressure. Micron 66 is designed for Salt Water and Fresh Water requires Micron Extra I think. Both can be burnished, but the paint goes on very smooth as is, and by design gets smoother as it ablates. They are multi season hard abatives. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md Regards -- *François Rivard* 4111 Northside Pkwy, Nw Big Data Black Belt Atlanta, 30327-3015IBM Sales Distribution, Software Sales UsaMobile:770-639-0429 e-mail:jfriv...@us.ibm.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Main sail slides
I find that my mainsail goes up really easy if the halyard is pumped at the mast...it's all the blocks leading the halyard to the cockpit that causes mine to be a hard pull... Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: That makes a big difference. Each year my kids go up the mast, clean out critters from the winter, and dry lube the track. What a difference! The lube also seems to discourage critters (mostly spiders) from building in the track. Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 STL -- *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 3:30 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Main sail slides McLube on the slides on occasion makes a big difference. I don't need a wench but the admiral helps out! Joel ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Main sail slides
Brillant! I'm doing that this evening :-) Both my main and genoa will go up without a winch / go down by gravity. But easier is better. I've been sort of trying to figure another way to do it without going up the mast.. Now I know. BTW, Last year I had my sail guy replace my ruined adjustable batten system with new Sailman adjustable batten boxes. No change to anything else but the slides are self lubing I believe they are Teflon impregnated and it worked wonders. Also, the adjustable batten boxes allow pre-loading the full length battens on my main and basically give a base' flat or deeper draft shape . It's a bonus to force a little extra belly in the main for more power in that 5-12 knot wind range. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA -- Subject: Re: Stus-List Main sail slides -- Message-ID: 13235cfe-941d-42d9-b169-79bc09b50...@thethomsons.us -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- My sail-maintenance guy taught me a great trick with regard to the main (and Genoa track). He gave me a slide for the track which I tie -- to the main halyard and to a recovery line and then wrap with lint free cloth - tied in place. I then soak the lint free cloth with -- -- Mclube and run it up and down the track. Cleans and lubes the track. My main drops by itself - and can be jumped at the mast very easily!! -- -- Jonathan -- Indigo CC 35III -- SOUTHPORT CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change
hey Kevin, I'm skeptical that Roundup addition to bottom paint will work. I've been lead to believe that Roundup needs to be applied to green leafy plants that are in the growing stage. If you think it works, what kind of proportions are we looking at? Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:36 AM 01/07/2015, you wrote: Anybody dumping Roundup in to their bottom paint and the waters in which we sail should be taken out to the barn and shot. Dumping a witches brew of anti biotics into these same waters is similarly ignorant IMO. Complain about the EPA all you like, but someone needs to take on the unenviable task of protecting the rest of us and our sailing waters from the ill informed and questionably intentioned. My 2 cents. Kevin 30-2 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015, 7:10 AM Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I totally concur.. You want the stuff to perform as designed.. You apply it as prescribed. If the tetracycline was as effective as claimed, it would be in the paint from the factory.  BTW, My burnished Trinidad Pro is still pristine (I check it regularly when we swim) after being constantly in the water 1.5 years. It's not real long yet but that is 1.5 years continuous. My competition scrubs their VC-17 bottom every week, I scrub it never yet we're fast enough to consistently show-up on the podium despite our inexperienced team's frequent mistakes and my old bedsheet sails. :-) -Francois 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA  Message: 6 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 01:07:36 + (UTC) From: Chuck S mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.netcscheaf...@comcast.net To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change Message-ID:         mailto:1958787858.6613606.1435712856109.javamail.zim...@comcast.net1958787858.6613606.1435712856109.javamail.zim...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think any drug like tetracycline will kill lots of germs and bacteria but will dissolve so fast in water, it will be gone in a few days. I wouldn't add anything to bottom paint for fear of jeopardizing the adhesion and slow release of it's own toxins. I've heard of people mixing in Round Up and I've heard the same people complain that their paint flaked off during haulout. I ask them if they sanded with 80 grit paper before painting as directed, and can tell by their confused expression, they never read the directions. I respect the guys who write the application instructions, follow those as close as I can and I've enjoyed great success. I understand your frustration with VC-17. I used VC-Offshore for 8 years and got fed up with the fouling. Had to clean the bottom each week to stay ahead of it. Used a piece of carpet and sometimes a 3M pad. Switched to a better paint, Micron 66, and love it. Kept the boat in all winter and the fouling looked pretty bad this May. All the boats in y marina had a fur attached to their hulls. I was surprised how easy it came off easily with a soft deck brush, and very little pressure. Micron 66 is designed for Salt Water and Fresh Water requires Micron Extra I think. Both can be burnished, but the paint goes on very smooth as is, and by design gets smoother as it ablates. They are multi season hard abatives. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md Regards François Rivard 4111 Northside Pkwy, Nw img src=https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/yT9P9fq6fQSQzdkkNrsCfc9byuINy9P3Hy_JDJyBHLurJGNqz4lLsxPlpZFYKlaPaON-FGTygiky9KrwObK-bihv6aEqVkE0YISadySMFMhVYPvzD0dNQO2kneoxPl3M_TJPdKOfr83584VGIq_edJRcfI7aazHDBAF0AXkCDKOPSzDwldfw1sUbias9bAJ4zuKpjHXI33y29P2p8V2wbKZuM7abbAowc9SowLGHV9_WjjWpJ9217PPJHWy8pFaBFwADNjAAh241XHMC1An92_F3zrTMgxiPmwve_5Z8fZBjn-DGFbOJBYIji5VlVdIkarqsOk8_UCnhs-pytmTABzw9G-TB2eah9uVZIiPizTmELX_Dsi8_x3WPF0qXRoBU5au0HM6I4A=s0-d-e1-ft#https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2ik=8d5d5ecb01attid=0.0.1th=14e49f48daac7062view=fimgrm=14e49f48daac7062sz=w1600-h1000attbid=ANGjdJ_xhrJR6ziOlX73QDcgzXMydePNMZ6YNmEpaglbP-lTjbBuLzvyP8qjh7V96sFUM8UkDH-niK1rPb4Dm1EDBoFLaqECC6RyYMgV4URidGX-qMhi72Ntd3beXeodisp=embzwhttps://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/yT9P9fq6fQSQzdkkNrsCfc9byuINy9P3Hy_JDJyBHLurJGNqz4lLsxPlpZFYKlaPaON-FGTygiky9KrwObK-bihv6aEqVkE0YISadySMFMhVYPvzD0dNQO2kneoxPl3M_TJPdKOfr83584VGIq_edJRcfI7aazHDBAF0AXkCDKOPSzDwldfw1sUbias9bAJ4zuKpjHXI33y29P2p8V2wbKZuM7abbAowc9SowLG HV9_WjjWpJ9217PPJHWy8pFaBFwADNjAAh241XHMC1An92_F3zrTMgxiPmwve_5Z8fZBjn-DGFbOJBYIji5VlVdIkarqsOk8_UCnhs-pytmTABzw9G-TB2eah9uVZIiPizTmELX_Dsi8_x3WPF0qXRoBU5au0HM6I4A=s0-d-e1-ft#https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2ik=8d5d5ecb01attid=0.0.1th=14e49f48daac7062view=fimgrm=14e49f48daac7062sz=w1600-h1000attbid=ANGjdJ_xhrJR6ziOlX73QDcgzXMydePNMZ6YNmEpaglbP-lTjbBuLzvyP8qjh7V96sFUM8UkDH-niK1rPb4Dm1EDBoFLaqECC6RyYMgV4URidGX-qMhi72Ntd3beXeodisp=embzw; Big Data Black Belt Atlanta,
Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change
Roundup is water soluble. Bill Bina On 7/2/2015 11:48 AM, Russ Melody via CnC-List wrote: hey Kevin, I'm skeptical that Roundup addition to bottom paint will work. I've been lead to believe that Roundup needs to be applied to green leafy plants that are in the growing stage. If you think it works, what kind of proportions are we looking at? Cheers, Russ /Sweet /35 mk-1 At 07:36 AM 01/07/2015, you wrote: Anybody dumping Roundup in to their bottom paint and the waters in which we sail should be taken out to the barn and shot. Dumping a witches brew of anti biotics into these same waters is similarly ignorant IMO. Complain about the EPA all you like, but someone needs to take on the unenviable task of protecting the rest of us and our sailing waters from the ill informed and questionably intentioned. My 2 cents. Kevin 30-2 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015, 7:10 AM Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I totally concur.. You want the stuff to perform as designed.. You apply it as prescribed. If the tetracycline was as effective as claimed, it would be in the paint from the factory.  BTW, My burnished Trinidad Pro is still pristine (I check it regularly when we swim) after being constantly in the water 1.5 years. It's not real long yet but that is 1.5 years continuous. My competition scrubs their VC-17 bottom every week, I scrub it never yet we're fast enough to consistently show-up on the podium despite our inexperienced team's frequent mistakes and my old bedsheet sails. :-) -Francois 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA  Message: 6 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 01:07:36 + (UTC) From: Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change Message-ID:         1958787858.6613606.1435712856109.javamail.zim...@comcast.net mailto:1958787858.6613606.1435712856109.javamail.zim...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think any drug like tetracycline will kill lots of germs and bacteria but will dissolve so fast in water, it will be gone in a few days. I wouldn't add anything to bottom paint for fear of jeopardizing the adhesion and slow release of it's own toxins. I've heard of people mixing in Round Up and I've heard the same people complain that their paint flaked off during haulout. I ask them if they sanded with 80 grit paper before painting as directed, and can tell by their confused expression, they never read the directions. I respect the guys who write the application instructions, follow those as close as I can and I've enjoyed great success. I understand your frustration with VC-17. I used VC-Offshore for 8 years and got fed up with the fouling. Had to clean the bottom each week to stay ahead of it. Used a piece of carpet and sometimes a 3M pad. Switched to a better paint, Micron 66, and love it. Kept the boat in all winter and the fouling looked pretty bad this May. All the boats in y marina had a fur attached to their hulls. I was surprised how easy it came off easily with a soft deck brush, and very little pressure. Micron 66 is designed for Salt Water and Fresh Water requires Micron Extra I think. Both can be burnished, but the paint goes on very smooth as is, and by design gets smoother as it ablates. They are multi season hard abatives. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md Regards François Rivard 4111 Northside Pkwy, Nw img src=https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/yT9P9fq6fQSQzdkkNrsCfc9byuINy9P3Hy_JDJyBHLurJGNqz4lLsxPlpZFYKlaPaON-FGTygiky9KrwObK-bihv6aEqVkE0YISadySMFMhVYPvzD0dNQO2kneoxPl3M_TJPdKOfr83584VGIq_edJRcfI7aazHDBAF0AXkCDKOPSzDwldfw1sUbias9bAJ4zuKpjHXI33y29P2p8V2wbKZuM7abbAowc9SowLGHV9_WjjWpJ9217PPJHWy8pFaBFwADNjAAh241XHMC1An92_F3zrTMgxiPmwve_5Z8fZBjn-DGFbOJBYIji5VlVdIkarqsOk8_UCnhs-pytmTABzw9G-TB2eah9uVZIiPizTmELX_Dsi8_x3WPF0qXRoBU5au0HM6I4A=s0-d-e1-ft#https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2ik=8d5d5ecb01attid=0.0.1th=14e49f48daac7062view=fimgrm=14e49f48daac7062sz=w1600-h1000attbid=ANGjdJ_xhrJR6ziOlX73QDcgzXMydePNMZ6YNmEpaglbP-lTjbBuLzvyP8qjh7V96sFUM8UkDH-niK1rPb4Dm1EDBoFLaqECC6RyYMgV4URidGX-qMhi72Ntd3beXeodisp=embzw Big Data Black Belt Atlanta, 30327-3015IBM Sales Distribution, Software Sales UsaMobile:770-639-0429 e-mail:jfriv...@us.ibm.com mailto:jfriv...@us.ibm.com    ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 33 winches on cabin top
Interesting...our 35 came with a pair of 18's. Now replaced with Lewmar 30ST's. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 28 June 2015 at 05:38, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Brad, My 35/3 has 2 # 10s. Try Bacon's, craigslist or ebay. An 2 speed should be easy to find. Joel On Sunday, June 28, 2015, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: CC 33 MkII I have 2 winches on either side of the companionway, 3 barient #10 and 1 #18. The jib halyard leads to the #18 on the port side and the main leads to a #10 on the starboard. Jib is furling and the main is up and down much more often. Is this the standard setup or have things been changed by a P/O? G/F would likely appreciate having a 2 speed for hoisting main. Anyone know of someone selling a good used #18? Thanks Brad Pulse 1985 CC 33 MkII Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
