Re: Stus-List List down?

2015-07-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Chuck,

Congrats!  A/C?  I'm jealous!

We went out about 3:30 and got bak around 6:00 as the wind was dying.  On
cooler days there can be a nice evening breeze.
Joel

On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Hi Joel,
 My son and I did the Race to Baltimore yesterday.  Light winds but a fun
 race w 60 boats that finished next to the docks in the harbor.  Damn hot.
 After the race we took a slip and plugged into shore power to run the AC
 and the cabin was heaven after the party.
 http://www.bcya.com/RaceToBaltimore/2015R2BResults.htm

 Are there winds in the evening on the Chesapeake?

 Chuck
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 Heat index over 100.  Doing an evening sail.
 Joel

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 I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats…   :^(

 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

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 Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing?

 Tom Buscaglia
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 1990 CC 37+/40
 Vashon WA
 P 206.463.9200



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Stus-List 52 Days to the CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous

2015-07-20 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers,

Four boats have already registered to attend the CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous 
— See cnc2015.com http://cnc2015.com/. 

Just 52 days to go! We hope to see you there. 


All the best,

Edd


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City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Diesel issues

2015-07-20 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
that would be my guess too... a clogged fuel filter

Dwight Veinot
CC 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 On the way to and from our racing area, my Beta-25 with only 390 hours on
 it was running fine and then it dies.

  It started up right away, ran for a few minutes then died again.

  We sailed out of the channel for about 10 minutes, started it up again
 with no problems and it ran for 20-30 minutes before
 I shut it down for the race.

  On the way back we motored around loafing at about 4 knots for 30
 minutes as we headed for the channel back to the slip.

  Halfway in it died again. I used the electric fuel pump to be sure it
 was 'primed' and it started right up and then quit again after about
 30 seconds.

  By then, we were close enough to the slip to sail in--kept the main up
 for just such an event--which we did without issues (a competent crew
 of 6 can do that!).

  Ran it in the slip at full throttle and it died again after about 3
 minutes. Started tight up, ran again at full throttle and it died again.

  Fuel tank is only 3 hours into a full tank (48 gallons) and the pick-up
 tube was replaced last year to go further down into the tank so neither
 the fuel level or pick-up tube level can be issues. I also added some
 Stan-dyne (?) when I last filled the tank earlier this year.

  The Neuse River was almost flat since we had only a 5 knot breeze so I
 doubt that it was 'stirred up' crud from the tank.

  Haven't replaced the fuel filter between the tank and the engine or the
 engine mounted one this season (did it last year) so that is my first chore
 since IMHO it looks like a fuel issue or an air in the fuel line issue.

  I also will check all the clamps that are used to seal the fuel line
 from the tank to the engine.

  Does the list have any other suggestions/ideas besides what I listed?

  TIA,

  Charlie Nelson
 Water Phantom
 1995 CC 36 XL/kcb







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Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem

2015-07-20 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Chuck
That's the same problem I have with my 4000 st+ unit...I think my problem
is with the control head...the motor works fine when I aplly 12 V source
but the controller sends no voltage to the motor...I found the service
manual for the unit here; http://www.ganssle.com/jack/st4000.pdf
and have concluded that a circuit component must have gone bad...mine will
have to go to our local Raymarine service center

Dwight Veinot
CC 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Seems my Raymarine 4000STPlus has a problem.  It does not work.  The
 display is displaying and all buttons seem to work.  Today it kept
 displaying XTE.  I pulled the motor connection and read a short pulse of
 volts at the socket when I tried to change course through the controller.
 The motor surged for a while and stopped.  It seems like the motor is OK.
 The display reads a magnetic heading and seems to function OK, but when I
 push AUTO and change heading, nothing changes except the display heading.

 Wiring problem?  I have a wired remote that may be lying under a pile of
 sails, or a tool bag.  Could that be causing interferance?

 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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Re: Stus-List Diesel issues

2015-07-20 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Charlie,

I would agree with the group — a clogged fuel filter. But check the air filter 
as well. 

Since it’s a Beta, you can also contact Beta US’s Farron Peffer who seems to 
know everything about anything about diesels. He’s at Beta NC. 
http://www.betamarinenc.com http://www.betamarinenc.com/ 

All the best,

Edd


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CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/





 On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:51 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 that would be my guess too... a clogged fuel filter
 
 Dwight Veinot
 CC 35 MKII, Alianna
 Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
 d.ve...@bellaliant.net mailto:d.ve...@bellaliant.net
 
 
 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 On the way to and from our racing area, my Beta-25 with only 390 hours on it 
 was running fine and then it dies.
 
 It started up right away, ran for a few minutes then died again.
 
 We sailed out of the channel for about 10 minutes, started it up again with 
 no problems and it ran for 20-30 minutes before
 I shut it down for the race.
 
 On the way back we motored around loafing at about 4 knots for 30 minutes as 
 we headed for the channel back to the slip.
 
 Halfway in it died again. I used the electric fuel pump to be sure it was 
 'primed' and it started right up and then quit again after about
 30 seconds. 
 
 By then, we were close enough to the slip to sail in--kept the main up for 
 just such an event--which we did without issues (a competent crew
 of 6 can do that!).
 
 Ran it in the slip at full throttle and it died again after about 3 minutes. 
 Started tight up, ran again at full throttle and it died again.
 
 Fuel tank is only 3 hours into a full tank (48 gallons) and the pick-up tube 
 was replaced last year to go further down into the tank so neither
 the fuel level or pick-up tube level can be issues. I also added some 
 Stan-dyne (?) when I last filled the tank earlier this year.
 
 The Neuse River was almost flat since we had only a 5 knot breeze so I doubt 
 that it was 'stirred up' crud from the tank.
 
 Haven't replaced the fuel filter between the tank and the engine or the 
 engine mounted one this season (did it last year) so that is my first chore
 since IMHO it looks like a fuel issue or an air in the fuel line issue.
 
 I also will check all the clamps that are used to seal the fuel line from the 
 tank to the engine.
 
 Does the list have any other suggestions/ideas besides what I listed?
 
 TIA,
 
 Charlie Nelson
 Water Phantom
 1995 CC 36 XL/kcb
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Diesel issues

2015-07-20 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
A friend of mine had a similar issue.  He changed all the filters and cleaned 
the fuel.   He checked out the fuel pumps.   Turned out was none of the above, 
just a loose fuel line that was letting air in.   So check all you connections 
on the fuel line from take to engine.   Jerry JJ 27V JJ
 

 

 

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Cc: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2015 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel issues


Charlie, 
  
 
 
I would agree with the group — a clogged fuel filter. But check the air filter 
as well.  
 
  
 
 
Since it’s a Beta, you can also contact Beta US’s Farron Peffer who seems to 
know everything about anything about diesels. He’s at Beta NC.   
http://www.betamarinenc.com   
  

 
  
All the best, 
 
  
 
 
Edd 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
Edd M. Schillay 
 
Starship Enterprise (Still on the hard, awaiting a new shaft — should be today) 

 
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B 
 
City Island, NY  

   
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log   
   

   
   
 
  
 




   
   
  
   

On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:51 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List  
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


 
that would be my guess too... a clogged fuel filter  
 
 
  
  
   

 
  
Dwight Veinot   
  
CC 35 MKII,   Alianna  
 
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS 
 
  d.ve...@bellaliant.net 
 
  
 

   
  
   
  
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:   
   
On the way to and from our racing area, my Beta-25 with only 390 hours 
on it was running fine and then it dies.  
  
  
  
  It started up right away, ran for a few minutes then died again.  
   
  
  
  
  
  We sailed out of the channel for about 10 minutes, started it up 
again with no problems and it ran for 20-30 minutes before 
  
  I shut it down for the race. 
  
  
  
  
  On the way back we motored around loafing at about 4 knots for 30 
minutes as we headed for the channel back to the slip. 
  
  
  
  
  Halfway in it died again. I used the electric fuel pump to be sure it 
was 'primed' and it started right up and then quit again after about 
  
  30 seconds.  
  
  
  
  
  By then, we were close enough to the slip to sail in--kept the main 
up for just such an event--which we did without issues (a competent crew
 
  
  of 6 can do that!). 
  
  
  
  
  Ran it in the slip at full throttle and it died again after about 3 
minutes. Started tight up, ran again at full throttle and it died again.
 
  
  
  
  
  Fuel tank is only 3 hours into a full tank (48 gallons) and the 
pick-up tube was replaced last year to go further down into the tank so neither 

  
  the fuel level or pick-up tube level can be issues. I also added some 
Stan-dyne (?) when I last filled the tank earlier this year. 
  
  
  
  
  The Neuse River was almost flat since we had only a 5 knot breeze so 
I doubt that it was 'stirred up' crud from the tank. 
  
  
  
  
  Haven't replaced the fuel filter between the tank and the engine or 
the engine mounted one this season (did it last year) so that is my first chore 

  
  since IMHO it looks like a fuel issue or an air in the fuel line 
issue. 
  
  
  
  
  I also will check all the clamps that are used to seal the fuel line 
from the tank to the engine. 
  
  
  
  
  Does the list have any other suggestions/ideas besides what I listed? 

  
  
  
  
  TIA, 
  
  
  
  
  Charlie Nelson 
  
  Water Phantom 
  
  1995 CC 36 XL/kcb 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
   cenel...@aol.com  
 
   
  
 

   
  
 


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Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem

2015-07-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Thanks Jack, 
I'll check outputs from the control head. Might be a connection or a wire 
between the control head and drive motor? 



Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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From: Jack Brennan via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Jack Brennan jackbren...@bellsouth.net 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 10:42:11 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem 

Here’s a link to the repair manual for the 4000+: 
http://www.bristolsailboats.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/st40001.pdf 
If the motor works, the problem is probably inside the wheel, either the gear 
or the belt. It’s easy to take apart and investigate. 
Jack Brennan 
Former CC 25 
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 
Tierra Verde, Fl. 
From: Chuck S via CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 10:11 PM 
To: cnc-list-bounces cnc-list ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
Cc: Chuck S 
Subject: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem 
Seems my Raymarine 4000STPlus has a problem. It does not work. The display is 
displaying and all buttons seem to work. Today it kept displaying XTE. I pulled 
the motor connection and read a short pulse of volts at the socket when I tried 
to change course through the controller. The motor surged for a while and 
stopped. It seems like the motor is OK. The display reads a magnetic heading 
and seems to function OK, but when I push AUTO and change heading, nothing 
changes except the display heading. 
Wiring problem? I have a wired remote that may be lying under a pile of sails, 
or a tool bag. Could that be causing interferance? 
Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 



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Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem

2015-07-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Thanks Dwight, 
I may have to do the same with mine? But I need to verify the volts outputting 
from DM1 and DM2. According to the service manual, they should switch polarity 
and pulse DC to power the motor. I had my steering pedestal off this spring and 
may have pinched the wiring somewhere between the pedestal and the aft cabin? 
Have to take some small jumpers w alligator clips to attach meter probes to 
troubleshoot. Didn't have those w me Sunday. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Cc: dwight dwight...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:49:01 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem 

Chuck 
That's the same problem I have with my 4000 st+ unit...I think my problem is 
with the control head...the motor works fine when I aplly 12 V source but the 
controller sends no voltage to the motor...I found the service manual for the 
unit here; http://www.ganssle.com/jack/st4000.pdf 
and have concluded that a circuit component must have gone bad...mine will have 
to go to our local Raymarine service center 

Dwight Veinot 
CC 35 MKII, Alianna 
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS 
d.ve...@bellaliant.net 


On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List  cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote: 



Seems my Raymarine 4000STPlus has a problem. It does not work. The display is 
displaying and all buttons seem to work. Today it kept displaying XTE. I pulled 
the motor connection and read a short pulse of volts at the socket when I tried 
to change course through the controller. The motor surged for a while and 
stopped. It seems like the motor is OK. The display reads a magnetic heading 
and seems to function OK, but when I push AUTO and change heading, nothing 
changes except the display heading. 

Wiring problem? I have a wired remote that may be lying under a pile of sails, 
or a tool bag. Could that be causing interferance? 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem

2015-07-20 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE via CnC-List


Chuck,
When you cross the big water to go to your boat, what is your travel 
time? I am assuming you are still living in New Jersey.

Ray 

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Re: Stus-List Intimidating Music (hee hee)

2015-07-20 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Really not a funny story.  I’ve served on enough race committees that took 
their work seriously and were respected for it.  No place for that, even in 
jest. It just shouldn’t happen.  Right up there with the Kazoos at the 
Manhattan club.  it sounds funny but just isn’t professional.

Send them a 6 pack of Moosehead.

John

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 I got told by the RC at the end of a race in Montreal as I passed the finish 
 line “If we knew you were racing, we would have brought a calendar.” 
 
 No respect at all.
 
 Rich Knowles
 Nanaimo, BC
 INDIGO LF38
 Boatless!
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 15, 2015, at 17:54, mike amirault via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I prefer to say nothing at the start; just smile and wave. A few years ago, 
 when I was racing my Mirage 25 boat for boat against another Mirage 25, a 
 young chap yelled over that they were gonna kick my ass. After the race was 
 over and they were beaten by about 20 min. they sailed past my mooring. I 
 yelled over hey Matt, I tried to hail you on the VHF but you must have been 
 out of range, then I tried your cell but the recording said I would have to 
 pay long distance charges
 He was quiter next race. MUCH quieter. ;)
  
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Re: Stus-List Diesel issues

2015-07-20 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Charlie,

I had a similar situation with my Universal M35b, which is based on the same 
Kubota engine as your Beta (I get my parts from Piston  Ring in Washington. 
Richard owns 1/2 interest in Beta Marine).

Problem was the electric lift pump used to provide fuel to the main fuel 
injection pump. When the lift pump got hot, it would stop working.

Got a replacement for the electric lift pump, plus a spare, and have not had a 
problem in several years.

Rick Brass

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 18:45, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 On the way to and from our racing area, my Beta-25 with only 390 hours on it 
 was running fine and then it dies.
 
 It started up right away, ran for a few minutes then died again.
 
 We sailed out of the channel for about 10 minutes, started it up again with 
 no problems and it ran for 20-30 minutes before
 I shut it down for the race.
 
 On the way back we motored around loafing at about 4 knots for 30 minutes as 
 we headed for the channel back to the slip.
 
 Halfway in it died again. I used the electric fuel pump to be sure it was 
 'primed' and it started right up and then quit again after about
 30 seconds. 
 
 By then, we were close enough to the slip to sail in--kept the main up for 
 just such an event--which we did without issues (a competent crew
 of 6 can do that!).
 
 Ran it in the slip at full throttle and it died again after about 3 minutes. 
 Started tight up, ran again at full throttle and it died again.
 
 Fuel tank is only 3 hours into a full tank (48 gallons) and the pick-up tube 
 was replaced last year to go further down into the tank so neither
 the fuel level or pick-up tube level can be issues. I also added some 
 Stan-dyne (?) when I last filled the tank earlier this year.
 
 The Neuse River was almost flat since we had only a 5 knot breeze so I doubt 
 that it was 'stirred up' crud from the tank.
 
 Haven't replaced the fuel filter between the tank and the engine or the 
 engine mounted one this season (did it last year) so that is my first chore
 since IMHO it looks like a fuel issue or an air in the fuel line issue.
 
 I also will check all the clamps that are used to seal the fuel line from the 
 tank to the engine.
 
 Does the list have any other suggestions/ideas besides what I listed?
 
 TIA,
 
 Charlie Nelson
 Water Phantom
 1995 CC 36 XL/kcb
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 cenel...@aol.com
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Re: Stus-List CC 35-III Headroom?

2015-07-20 Thread David Lenehan via CnC-List
Lee,

I'm pretty certain it's 6'4.

Hope it helps
David

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 Anyone know the headroom in a 1986 35-III?  Boats out of town or I’d
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Re: Stus-List List down?

2015-07-20 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
No wifi until today in Ladysmith BC.  Hope all are well!

 On Jul 19, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats…   :^(
 
 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
 
 On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing?
 
 Tom Buscaglia
 S/V Alera 
 1990 CC 37+/40
 Vashon WA
 P 206.463.9200
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Stus-List CC 35-III Headroom?

2015-07-20 Thread Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
Anyone know the headroom in a 1986 35-III?  Boats out of town or I’d measure.
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Re: Stus-List Intimidating Music (hee hee)

2015-07-20 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
Geez, John, sorry you took this seriously. I didn’t. I knew everyone on board 
the committee boat, all talented volunteers, and frequently was on board 
myself. There is always room for a chuckle in my life and they gave me a good 
one that day. And Moosehead should only be given to folks you really don’t like 
very much:)

Rich Knowles
Nanaimo, BC
INDIGO LF38
Boatless!


On Jul 20, 2015, at 18:42, John Pennie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

Really not a funny story.  I’ve served on enough race committees that took 
their work seriously and were respected for it.  No place for that, even in 
jest. It just shouldn’t happen.  Right up there with the Kazoos at the 
Manhattan club.  it sounds funny but just isn’t professional.

Send them a 6 pack of Moosehead.

John

 On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:00 PM, Knowles Rich via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I got told by the RC at the end of a race in Montreal as I passed the finish 
 line “If we knew you were racing, we would have brought a calendar.” 
 
 No respect at all.
 
 Rich Knowles
 Nanaimo, BC
 INDIGO LF38
 Boatless!
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 15, 2015, at 17:54, mike amirault via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I prefer to say nothing at the start; just smile and wave. A few years ago, 
 when I was racing my Mirage 25 boat for boat against another Mirage 25, a 
 young chap yelled over that they were gonna kick my ass. After the race was 
 over and they were beaten by about 20 min. they sailed past my mooring. I 
 yelled over hey Matt, I tried to hail you on the VHF but you must have been 
 out of range, then I tried your cell but the recording said I would have to 
 pay long distance charges
 He was quiter next race. MUCH quieter. ;)
  
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