Re: Stus-List List down?
Chuck, Congrats! A/C? I'm jealous! We went out about 3:30 and got bak around 6:00 as the wind was dying. On cooler days there can be a nice evening breeze. Joel On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Joel, My son and I did the Race to Baltimore yesterday. Light winds but a fun race w 60 boats that finished next to the docks in the harbor. Damn hot. After the race we took a slip and plugged into shore power to run the AC and the cabin was heaven after the party. http://www.bcya.com/RaceToBaltimore/2015R2BResults.htm Are there winds in the evening on the Chesapeake? Chuck -- *From: *Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); *Cc: *Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joel.aron...@gmail.com'); *Sent: *Sunday, July 19, 2015 2:35:53 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List List down? Heat index over 100. Doing an evening sail. Joel On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats… :^( Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing? Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 52 Days to the CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous
Listers, Four boats have already registered to attend the CC 2015 Northeast Rendezvous — See cnc2015.com http://cnc2015.com/. Just 52 days to go! We hope to see you there. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Diesel issues
that would be my guess too... a clogged fuel filter Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On the way to and from our racing area, my Beta-25 with only 390 hours on it was running fine and then it dies. It started up right away, ran for a few minutes then died again. We sailed out of the channel for about 10 minutes, started it up again with no problems and it ran for 20-30 minutes before I shut it down for the race. On the way back we motored around loafing at about 4 knots for 30 minutes as we headed for the channel back to the slip. Halfway in it died again. I used the electric fuel pump to be sure it was 'primed' and it started right up and then quit again after about 30 seconds. By then, we were close enough to the slip to sail in--kept the main up for just such an event--which we did without issues (a competent crew of 6 can do that!). Ran it in the slip at full throttle and it died again after about 3 minutes. Started tight up, ran again at full throttle and it died again. Fuel tank is only 3 hours into a full tank (48 gallons) and the pick-up tube was replaced last year to go further down into the tank so neither the fuel level or pick-up tube level can be issues. I also added some Stan-dyne (?) when I last filled the tank earlier this year. The Neuse River was almost flat since we had only a 5 knot breeze so I doubt that it was 'stirred up' crud from the tank. Haven't replaced the fuel filter between the tank and the engine or the engine mounted one this season (did it last year) so that is my first chore since IMHO it looks like a fuel issue or an air in the fuel line issue. I also will check all the clamps that are used to seal the fuel line from the tank to the engine. Does the list have any other suggestions/ideas besides what I listed? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom 1995 CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem
Chuck That's the same problem I have with my 4000 st+ unit...I think my problem is with the control head...the motor works fine when I aplly 12 V source but the controller sends no voltage to the motor...I found the service manual for the unit here; http://www.ganssle.com/jack/st4000.pdf and have concluded that a circuit component must have gone bad...mine will have to go to our local Raymarine service center Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Seems my Raymarine 4000STPlus has a problem. It does not work. The display is displaying and all buttons seem to work. Today it kept displaying XTE. I pulled the motor connection and read a short pulse of volts at the socket when I tried to change course through the controller. The motor surged for a while and stopped. It seems like the motor is OK. The display reads a magnetic heading and seems to function OK, but when I push AUTO and change heading, nothing changes except the display heading. Wiring problem? I have a wired remote that may be lying under a pile of sails, or a tool bag. Could that be causing interferance? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Diesel issues
Charlie, I would agree with the group — a clogged fuel filter. But check the air filter as well. Since it’s a Beta, you can also contact Beta US’s Farron Peffer who seems to know everything about anything about diesels. He’s at Beta NC. http://www.betamarinenc.com http://www.betamarinenc.com/ All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise (Still on the hard, awaiting a new shaft — should be today) CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:51 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: that would be my guess too... a clogged fuel filter Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net mailto:d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On the way to and from our racing area, my Beta-25 with only 390 hours on it was running fine and then it dies. It started up right away, ran for a few minutes then died again. We sailed out of the channel for about 10 minutes, started it up again with no problems and it ran for 20-30 minutes before I shut it down for the race. On the way back we motored around loafing at about 4 knots for 30 minutes as we headed for the channel back to the slip. Halfway in it died again. I used the electric fuel pump to be sure it was 'primed' and it started right up and then quit again after about 30 seconds. By then, we were close enough to the slip to sail in--kept the main up for just such an event--which we did without issues (a competent crew of 6 can do that!). Ran it in the slip at full throttle and it died again after about 3 minutes. Started tight up, ran again at full throttle and it died again. Fuel tank is only 3 hours into a full tank (48 gallons) and the pick-up tube was replaced last year to go further down into the tank so neither the fuel level or pick-up tube level can be issues. I also added some Stan-dyne (?) when I last filled the tank earlier this year. The Neuse River was almost flat since we had only a 5 knot breeze so I doubt that it was 'stirred up' crud from the tank. Haven't replaced the fuel filter between the tank and the engine or the engine mounted one this season (did it last year) so that is my first chore since IMHO it looks like a fuel issue or an air in the fuel line issue. I also will check all the clamps that are used to seal the fuel line from the tank to the engine. Does the list have any other suggestions/ideas besides what I listed? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom 1995 CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com mailto:cenel...@aol.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Diesel issues
A friend of mine had a similar issue. He changed all the filters and cleaned the fuel. He checked out the fuel pumps. Turned out was none of the above, just a loose fuel line that was letting air in. So check all you connections on the fuel line from take to engine. Jerry JJ 27V JJ -Original Message- From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2015 12:56 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel issues Charlie, I would agree with the group — a clogged fuel filter. But check the air filter as well. Since it’s a Beta, you can also contact Beta US’s Farron Peffer who seems to know everything about anything about diesels. He’s at Beta NC. http://www.betamarinenc.com All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise (Still on the hard, awaiting a new shaft — should be today) CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:51 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: that would be my guess too... a clogged fuel filter Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On the way to and from our racing area, my Beta-25 with only 390 hours on it was running fine and then it dies. It started up right away, ran for a few minutes then died again. We sailed out of the channel for about 10 minutes, started it up again with no problems and it ran for 20-30 minutes before I shut it down for the race. On the way back we motored around loafing at about 4 knots for 30 minutes as we headed for the channel back to the slip. Halfway in it died again. I used the electric fuel pump to be sure it was 'primed' and it started right up and then quit again after about 30 seconds. By then, we were close enough to the slip to sail in--kept the main up for just such an event--which we did without issues (a competent crew of 6 can do that!). Ran it in the slip at full throttle and it died again after about 3 minutes. Started tight up, ran again at full throttle and it died again. Fuel tank is only 3 hours into a full tank (48 gallons) and the pick-up tube was replaced last year to go further down into the tank so neither the fuel level or pick-up tube level can be issues. I also added some Stan-dyne (?) when I last filled the tank earlier this year. The Neuse River was almost flat since we had only a 5 knot breeze so I doubt that it was 'stirred up' crud from the tank. Haven't replaced the fuel filter between the tank and the engine or the engine mounted one this season (did it last year) so that is my first chore since IMHO it looks like a fuel issue or an air in the fuel line issue. I also will check all the clamps that are used to seal the fuel line from the tank to the engine. Does the list have any other suggestions/ideas besides what I listed? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom 1995 CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com ___ Email address:
Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem
Thanks Jack, I'll check outputs from the control head. Might be a connection or a wire between the control head and drive motor? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Jack Brennan via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jack Brennan jackbren...@bellsouth.net Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 10:42:11 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem Here’s a link to the repair manual for the 4000+: http://www.bristolsailboats.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/st40001.pdf If the motor works, the problem is probably inside the wheel, either the gear or the belt. It’s easy to take apart and investigate. Jack Brennan Former CC 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 10:11 PM To: cnc-list-bounces cnc-list ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Cc: Chuck S Subject: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem Seems my Raymarine 4000STPlus has a problem. It does not work. The display is displaying and all buttons seem to work. Today it kept displaying XTE. I pulled the motor connection and read a short pulse of volts at the socket when I tried to change course through the controller. The motor surged for a while and stopped. It seems like the motor is OK. The display reads a magnetic heading and seems to function OK, but when I push AUTO and change heading, nothing changes except the display heading. Wiring problem? I have a wired remote that may be lying under a pile of sails, or a tool bag. Could that be causing interferance? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem
Thanks Dwight, I may have to do the same with mine? But I need to verify the volts outputting from DM1 and DM2. According to the service manual, they should switch polarity and pulse DC to power the motor. I had my steering pedestal off this spring and may have pinched the wiring somewhere between the pedestal and the aft cabin? Have to take some small jumpers w alligator clips to attach meter probes to troubleshoot. Didn't have those w me Sunday. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: dwight veinot via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight dwight...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:49:01 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem Chuck That's the same problem I have with my 4000 st+ unit...I think my problem is with the control head...the motor works fine when I aplly 12 V source but the controller sends no voltage to the motor...I found the service manual for the unit here; http://www.ganssle.com/jack/st4000.pdf and have concluded that a circuit component must have gone bad...mine will have to go to our local Raymarine service center Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Seems my Raymarine 4000STPlus has a problem. It does not work. The display is displaying and all buttons seem to work. Today it kept displaying XTE. I pulled the motor connection and read a short pulse of volts at the socket when I tried to change course through the controller. The motor surged for a while and stopped. It seems like the motor is OK. The display reads a magnetic heading and seems to function OK, but when I push AUTO and change heading, nothing changes except the display heading. Wiring problem? I have a wired remote that may be lying under a pile of sails, or a tool bag. Could that be causing interferance? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine Autohelm problem
Chuck, When you cross the big water to go to your boat, what is your travel time? I am assuming you are still living in New Jersey. Ray ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Intimidating Music (hee hee)
Really not a funny story. I’ve served on enough race committees that took their work seriously and were respected for it. No place for that, even in jest. It just shouldn’t happen. Right up there with the Kazoos at the Manhattan club. it sounds funny but just isn’t professional. Send them a 6 pack of Moosehead. John On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:00 PM, Knowles Rich via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I got told by the RC at the end of a race in Montreal as I passed the finish line “If we knew you were racing, we would have brought a calendar.” No respect at all. Rich Knowles Nanaimo, BC INDIGO LF38 Boatless! On Jul 15, 2015, at 17:54, mike amirault via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I prefer to say nothing at the start; just smile and wave. A few years ago, when I was racing my Mirage 25 boat for boat against another Mirage 25, a young chap yelled over that they were gonna kick my ass. After the race was over and they were beaten by about 20 min. they sailed past my mooring. I yelled over hey Matt, I tried to hail you on the VHF but you must have been out of range, then I tried your cell but the recording said I would have to pay long distance charges He was quiter next race. MUCH quieter. ;) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Diesel issues
Charlie, I had a similar situation with my Universal M35b, which is based on the same Kubota engine as your Beta (I get my parts from Piston Ring in Washington. Richard owns 1/2 interest in Beta Marine). Problem was the electric lift pump used to provide fuel to the main fuel injection pump. When the lift pump got hot, it would stop working. Got a replacement for the electric lift pump, plus a spare, and have not had a problem in several years. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Jul 19, 2015, at 18:45, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On the way to and from our racing area, my Beta-25 with only 390 hours on it was running fine and then it dies. It started up right away, ran for a few minutes then died again. We sailed out of the channel for about 10 minutes, started it up again with no problems and it ran for 20-30 minutes before I shut it down for the race. On the way back we motored around loafing at about 4 knots for 30 minutes as we headed for the channel back to the slip. Halfway in it died again. I used the electric fuel pump to be sure it was 'primed' and it started right up and then quit again after about 30 seconds. By then, we were close enough to the slip to sail in--kept the main up for just such an event--which we did without issues (a competent crew of 6 can do that!). Ran it in the slip at full throttle and it died again after about 3 minutes. Started tight up, ran again at full throttle and it died again. Fuel tank is only 3 hours into a full tank (48 gallons) and the pick-up tube was replaced last year to go further down into the tank so neither the fuel level or pick-up tube level can be issues. I also added some Stan-dyne (?) when I last filled the tank earlier this year. The Neuse River was almost flat since we had only a 5 knot breeze so I doubt that it was 'stirred up' crud from the tank. Haven't replaced the fuel filter between the tank and the engine or the engine mounted one this season (did it last year) so that is my first chore since IMHO it looks like a fuel issue or an air in the fuel line issue. I also will check all the clamps that are used to seal the fuel line from the tank to the engine. Does the list have any other suggestions/ideas besides what I listed? TIA, Charlie Nelson Water Phantom 1995 CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 35-III Headroom?
Lee, I'm pretty certain it's 6'4. Hope it helps David On 21 July 2015 at 10:33, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Anyone know the headroom in a 1986 35-III? Boats out of town or I’d measure. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List List down?
No wifi until today in Ladysmith BC. Hope all are well! On Jul 19, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats… :^( Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing? Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List CC 35-III Headroom?
Anyone know the headroom in a 1986 35-III? Boats out of town or I’d measure. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Intimidating Music (hee hee)
Geez, John, sorry you took this seriously. I didn’t. I knew everyone on board the committee boat, all talented volunteers, and frequently was on board myself. There is always room for a chuckle in my life and they gave me a good one that day. And Moosehead should only be given to folks you really don’t like very much:) Rich Knowles Nanaimo, BC INDIGO LF38 Boatless! On Jul 20, 2015, at 18:42, John Pennie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Really not a funny story. I’ve served on enough race committees that took their work seriously and were respected for it. No place for that, even in jest. It just shouldn’t happen. Right up there with the Kazoos at the Manhattan club. it sounds funny but just isn’t professional. Send them a 6 pack of Moosehead. John On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:00 PM, Knowles Rich via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I got told by the RC at the end of a race in Montreal as I passed the finish line “If we knew you were racing, we would have brought a calendar.” No respect at all. Rich Knowles Nanaimo, BC INDIGO LF38 Boatless! On Jul 15, 2015, at 17:54, mike amirault via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I prefer to say nothing at the start; just smile and wave. A few years ago, when I was racing my Mirage 25 boat for boat against another Mirage 25, a young chap yelled over that they were gonna kick my ass. After the race was over and they were beaten by about 20 min. they sailed past my mooring. I yelled over hey Matt, I tried to hail you on the VHF but you must have been out of range, then I tried your cell but the recording said I would have to pay long distance charges He was quiter next race. MUCH quieter. ;) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com