Re: Stus-List Owners Database

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thanks Stu, I registered the info for my boat. And I like the field for draft 
(standard or shoal). 

One comment: on the registration form the field label says "hull number" but on 
the confirmation page it says "HIN". Initially I had put in "7" but I backed up 
and put in 30007972 after seeing the confirmation page. I think it's valuable 
to collect complete HINs for the boats in the database, so to eliminate 
confusion it might be good to change the field label to "HIN" on the 
registration form. 

Thanks Again, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "Stu via CnC-List"  
To: "C&C Email List"  
Cc: "Stu"  
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:36:33 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Owners Database 

The ‘NEW’ Owners’ Database is now in Beta-testing. There may be some bugs 
crawling around but I think I got most of them. 
There is no application where you can change or delete your profile – so you 
will have to contact me to make any changes. 
Once we get some boats registered, I will add the search routines. 
Hoping to leave home on Monday when the gas prices have dropped. Will be back 
in a couple of weeks. So don’t expect too much in that period. 
If you do find a bug or have other suggestions or comments, please send me an 
email. 
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/new_owners/index.php 
Stu 

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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thanks Ron, I updated that spreadsheet with that info. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Ronald B. Frerker"  
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:26:57 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

Randy, 
You missed this reply. My number is 166 and I have a Universal diesel, MXP 25 I 
think. 
Ron 




From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List  
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: Ronald B. Frerker  
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 2:25 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

Wild Cheri was built in 4/73 and is hull number 166. 
Ron 
STL 




From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List  
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: Nate Flesness  
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:11 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602. 

Nate 


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Stus-List Owners Database

[Stu via CnC-List]

The ‘NEW’ Owners’ Database is now in Beta-testing.  There may be some bugs 
crawling around but I think I got most of them.

There is no application where you can change or delete your profile – so you 
will have to contact me to make any changes.

Once we get some boats registered, I will add the search routines.

Hoping to leave home on Monday when the gas prices have dropped.  Will be back 
in a couple of weeks.  So don’t expect too much in that period.

If you do find a bug or have other suggestions or comments, please send me an 
email.

http://mailtrack.me/tracking/raWzMz50paMkCGZkZmRlAmZ2AwxzMKWjqzA2pzSaqaR9ZwH2ZGDjBGp1Way2LKu2pG0kZQRlAmxmBGp2AH8

Stu

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Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

[gnylander--- via CnC-List]

Randy, our boats are aa bit odd - with a 13.5 foot J 
measurement, our spin poles are that long, and they work 
well with a 155. Other boats with smaller J measurements 
don't get the benefit.


Gary #593

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 03:03:09 + (UTC)
 RANDY via CnC-List  wrote:
I poled out my 155% genoa last night with the spin pole, 
because I don't have a whisker pole, and I found the spin 
pole to be almost too long. 

Cheers, 
Randy 


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From: "Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List" 
 
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Ronald B. Frerker"  
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 1:33:25 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 





"If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on 
centerline and using 
a pole like you would use a whisker pole on a headsail I 
guess that 
would work but as pointed out is not legal under common 
Racing 
Rules of Sailing." 

I've found the spin pole is too short for use as a 
whisker pole even when poling out a genny (150%). For a 
chute which is about 180% the clew will be in way too far 
to pull well I would think. 
Ron 
Wild Cheri 
C&C 30-1 
STL 




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Re: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

[gnylander--- via CnC-List]

I built a platform for a 5000 btu unit which sits on the 
foredeck. I then built a couple of sides - the unit sits 
in front of the forehatch and the open hatch with sides 
aims the air down into the vee berth and head. Works OK, 
dept us cool in the Baltimore heat for a couple of 
weekends. Platform is out of 2x2's - light.


Gary
St. Michaels MD


On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 07:30:30 -0400
 Jake Brodersen via CnC-List  
wrote:

Edd,



I mounted a 12,000 btu window unit in the companionway. 
It keeps the boat chilly even in the high 90’s.  We only 
use it a couple times a year, but for the price it sure 
beats hotel rooms.   Yes, it’s a bit heavy and hard to 
stow, but I’ve worked out a spot at the saloon table next 
to the mast where it stays put.




Jake



Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA













From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 12:08
To: C&C List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone 
try it?




Listers,



We’ve had some really hot days up here in the Northeast 
and the Admiral is thinking air conditioning. I don’t 
really want to go through the expense of installing a 
marine air conditioner and through-hull valves, but I 
have been hearing stories of boaters putting one of those 
portable AC units on board with the exhaust hose going 
out through a hatch. 




I would probably stick with an 7,000-8,000 BTU using 
drawing 7-9 amps. The specs say that can cool 250 square 
feet, which I think would make the inside of a boat cabin 
quite comfortable. Obviously would only be used during 
shore power or while the engine is running (I have a 
high-amp alternator and a great inverter on board). 




Has anyone done this? Any thoughts? 



All the best,



Edd





Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
 





   














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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

Randy,You missed this reply.  My number is 166 and I have a Universal diesel, 
MXP 25 I think.Ron


  From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: Ronald B. Frerker 
 Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 2:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s
   
Wild Cheri was built in 4/73 and is hull number 166.RonSTL


  From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: Nate Flesness 
 Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s
  
Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602.
Nate
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Re: Stus-List Owners' Database

[rick bushie via CnC-List]

I have no idea Randy!  Maybe I’ve been mistaken about what the data on 
Anchovy’s ID plate means.

Rick Bushie
Anchovy, 1971 30-1
Tolchester, MD
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Re: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Many boats in the South have awnings over the boom to provide shade on the
cabin and deck.  Awnings range from nice commercially made ones to some PVC
pipe and a cheap tarp.

Other folks have tried keeping the cabin top and deck wet with a spray of
water.

Every little bit helps.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 11:14 AM, James Nichols via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I just wrote a blog about my last visit to Kristy, my 1971 C&C 39, and part
> of it addressed the portable AC unit that I purchased.
>
> https://adventureswithkristy.wordpress.com/2016/08/11/a-quick-visit/
>
> I wish I could tell you the amperage it was drawing, but I was too busy
> working on the electrical system and didn't think about it until it was
> already time to leave.
>
> James
> S/V Kristy
> 1971 C&C 39
>
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Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

[James Nichols via CnC-List]

I just wrote a blog about my last visit to Kristy, my 1971 C&C 39, and part
of it addressed the portable AC unit that I purchased.

https://adventureswithkristy.wordpress.com/2016/08/11/a-quick-visit/

I wish I could tell you the amperage it was drawing, but I was too busy
working on the electrical system and didn't think about it until it was
already time to leave.

James
S/V Kristy
1971 C&C 39


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Re: Stus-List Owners' Database

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Hi All, 

Yesterday I tried to send the below message to the list, but it was too big 
because of the spreadsheet of known 30-1s I attached to the message. So I put 
the spreadsheet at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTdFdscXlyQVNtWms . There is data 
on 117 out of the ~800 built. 

Once Stu gets the database back online, we current 30-1 owners on the mail list 
can make sure the database includes our boats (I know it's missing info on some 
of them, e.g. mine). 

Stu replied to my message below but I'm not sure his reply went to the list. I 
may have overshot the mark on complexity :) 

So, Stu, back to the list of fields you mentioned below, would you consider 
adding: 
10. HIN 
11. Draft (standard or shoal) 
12. Rig (standard or tall) - if relevant; I don't know if any C&C boats ever 
offered that choice 
13. Spinnaker (yes or no) 
14. Steering (tiller or wheel) 
15. Engine 

Thanks again Stu for everything. 

And Rick Bushie - are you aware of this alleged 1970 30-1 in the database? Your 
hull #1 is stamped 1971. I'm wondering what to make of that. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "RANDY"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Stu"  
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 5:02:37 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Owners' Database 

Hi Stu, 

First, thank you so much for everything you do for this community. It's just so 
awesome. Second, if you'd ever like help with the database or the website etc. 
I could raise my hand (I'm a software guy). 

Regarding the database design - since boats pass from owner to owner, it would 
be ideal in my opinion to model the boat and the ownership separately. 
Ownership is a relationship between a boat and a person, with a start and end 
date. So I'd suggest a boat table with info about the boat, and an owners table 
with info about owners, and an ownership table relating a boat to an owner, 
with a start date and end date and boat name (since owners rename boats). 

When I first got my boat I wanted to learn about its ownership history, but 
could only find bits and pieces in documents that came with the boat, and from 
talking to the immediately previous owner. 

For the boat table I think it's most important to have good identifying 
information about the boat: its model, and ideally its entire HIN or at least 
its hull number and year. Sail number is a helpful additional identifier. Next 
most important in my opinion would be the most fixed elements of the boat's 
configuration: its keel or draft e.g. standard or shoal, its rig e.g. standard 
or tall (if applicable) and whether it's rigged for spinnaker, how it's 
steered, and its engine. 

For the owners table I think the owner's name and contact information would be 
most important. Next would be their location, and perhaps yacht club if 
relevant. Those could be interpreted as the owner's current (or last known) 
location and club, since people move and take their boats with them. It's 
probably not worth making the model more complex to capture such moves. 

The ownership table would be the valuable part. It would refer to a boat and an 
owner, and associate the start and end date of ownership, and the name of the 
boat under that owner. If the database had that, it could potentially capture 
ownership history as a boat changed hands. 

For what it's worth I attached a spreadsheet of known 30-1s and their last 
known ownership information, cribbed from your owners list pages and from bits 
of info gleaned off the mail list. There's probably some info in the 
spreadsheet that's not in your database, and vice versa (for example I only put 
the male owner's name in the spreadsheet). One thing that confused me is an 
alleged 1970 30-1 in your database, whereas Rick Bushie on the mail list owns 
hull #1 apparently, and it was built in 1971. How to reconcile? 

Anyway thanks again for everything. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C&C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 



- Original Message -

From: "Stu via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Stu"  
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 12:13:52 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Owners' Database 

We haven't left the dock yet so I have been spending a bit of time on the 
new owners' database. 

What fields do you want to see besides these: 
1. Last Name 
2. First Name 
3. Mate 
4. Home City, State, Country 
5. Boat Name 
6. Length 
7. Model 
8. Year 
9. Hull number 

I want to keep the database and searches as simple as possible and not be 
confusing to our members. 

All suggestions greatly appreciated. 

Stu 



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Re: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Edd,

 

I mounted a 12,000 btu window unit in the companionway.  It keeps the boat 
chilly even in the high 90’s.  We only use it a couple times a year, but for 
the price it sure beats hotel rooms.   Yes, it’s a bit heavy and hard to stow, 
but I’ve worked out a spot at the saloon table next to the mast where it stays 
put.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA



 

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 12:08
To: C&C List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

 

Listers,

 

We’ve had some really hot days up here in the Northeast and the Admiral is 
thinking air conditioning. I don’t really want to go through the expense of 
installing a marine air conditioner and through-hull valves, but I have been 
hearing stories of boaters putting one of those portable AC units on board with 
the exhaust hose going out through a hatch. 

 

I would probably stick with an 7,000-8,000 BTU using drawing 7-9 amps. The 
specs say that can cool 250 square feet, which I think would make the inside of 
a boat cabin quite comfortable. Obviously would only be used during shore power 
or while the engine is running (I have a high-amp alternator and a great 
inverter on board). 

 

Has anyone done this? Any thoughts? 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 




 






 

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