Stus-List Quadrant cable tension

[Allan Hester via CnC-List]

CNC listers,

I am installing a Raymarine under deck autopilot for my 1989 C&C 35 MK3.

The process required removing the quadrant and steering cables. 

Does anybody know how tight the quadrant cables should be? Is there a rule of 
thumb for tension or a specific guide?

Thank you.

AL H.
Pacific Ranger
C&C 35 Mk 3
Vancouver, BC.
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Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?, also 34 & 35-2

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

BTW - Your offer, like all offers, should include a survey, sea trial, & 
optional mechanical survey.

Your broker, if you have one, should help with the process.   For the record, I 
am a yacht broker.

Neil Andersen
1982 C&C 32 FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Bruno Lachance via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 9:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bruno Lachance
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?, also 34 & 35-2

Shawn, the owner is right, there is ALWAYS something needing attention. It's a 
boat. At least he is not trying to convince you everything is perfect with 
rainbows and unicorns!

Make an offer, the worst that can happen is a no thank you. We are cheap 
cruisers in Canada but polite ones! ;)

Good luck.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33-2
New- Richmond, Qc


Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 18 avr. 2019 à 21:37, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

Thanks John. It seems there is an error at 
sailboatdata.com regarding the 34 being a Bruce King 
design. It's interesting, because I wouldn't have noticed except someone from 
an Ericson list pointed me toward one, mentioning that it was a BK design. As I 
like both BK and RB/C&C designs, it doesn't really matter to me, but it does 
emphasize to not trust everything you read online!

As it happens, we might be making an offer on the 35-2 we looked at in January. 
Still mulling it over, as we're in a tough spot where making an offer might 
just force the other interested party to make a higher offer, and any offer we 
make will be as high as we can go; I am not going to get into a bidding war. 
While I really like the boat, I just spent over an hour on the phone with the 
previous owner of 32 years, and even he admitted that since the major refit he 
did in 2003, there will be things needing attention just due to age. But all 
the weak points have been addressed - mast step, every hole epoxy filled & 
drilled, epoxy barrier coat, etc.

Sorry, there I go again, changing the tack of the thread... oops!



On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 6:03 PM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Shawn

FWIW, there is a designer’s commentary on the 34 by Rob Ball as the designer.  
I also believe he owns one here on Buzzard’s Bay.  There is also a posting 
today on this list of a 34 for sale very inexpensively.

John

From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Shawn Wright
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?

Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King, 
whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is only 
one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price is a bit 
more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might be a slow 
seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all, except the 
cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there is a C&C model 
between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just finding one near me at 
a decent price is the problem.

This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver to 
see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing

I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit slower, but 
maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than the later blade. 
Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Shawn

Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails like 
a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed head 
with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & cold 
pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their gear.  No 
generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld attractively 
priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish (475 built).   Of 
course at this vintage individual condition may vary.
My 2 cents American

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT

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Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?, also 34 & 35-2

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

Shawn, the owner is right, there is ALWAYS something needing attention. It's a 
boat. At least he is not trying to convince you everything is perfect with 
rainbows and unicorns!

Make an offer, the worst that can happen is a no thank you. We are cheap 
cruisers in Canada but polite ones! ;)

Good luck.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33-2
New- Richmond, Qc


Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 18 avr. 2019 à 21:37, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

Thanks John. It seems there is an error at 
sailboatdata.com regarding the 34 being a Bruce King 
design. It's interesting, because I wouldn't have noticed except someone from 
an Ericson list pointed me toward one, mentioning that it was a BK design. As I 
like both BK and RB/C&C designs, it doesn't really matter to me, but it does 
emphasize to not trust everything you read online!

As it happens, we might be making an offer on the 35-2 we looked at in January. 
Still mulling it over, as we're in a tough spot where making an offer might 
just force the other interested party to make a higher offer, and any offer we 
make will be as high as we can go; I am not going to get into a bidding war. 
While I really like the boat, I just spent over an hour on the phone with the 
previous owner of 32 years, and even he admitted that since the major refit he 
did in 2003, there will be things needing attention just due to age. But all 
the weak points have been addressed - mast step, every hole epoxy filled & 
drilled, epoxy barrier coat, etc.

Sorry, there I go again, changing the tack of the thread... oops!



On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 6:03 PM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Shawn

FWIW, there is a designer’s commentary on the 34 by Rob Ball as the designer.  
I also believe he owns one here on Buzzard’s Bay.  There is also a posting 
today on this list of a 34 for sale very inexpensively.

John

From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Shawn Wright
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?

Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King, 
whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is only 
one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price is a bit 
more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might be a slow 
seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all, except the 
cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there is a C&C model 
between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just finding one near me at 
a decent price is the problem.

This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver to 
see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing

I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit slower, but 
maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than the later blade. 
Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Shawn

Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails like 
a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed head 
with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & cold 
pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their gear.  No 
generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld attractively 
priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish (475 built).   Of 
course at this vintage individual condition may vary.
My 2 cents American

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT

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Re: Stus-List Replacing a CnC 44 Rudder

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

Going on about 7 years ago, we ended up bending our rudder stock through a 
combination of a dark night, distraction and other circumstances I care not to 
discuss in public.  In the end, a new rudder was fabricated by Foss Foam out of 
Florida.  It was noticeably lighter than the previous version, and the boat 
seemed to sail a bit better after that.I would highly recommend them, presuming 
they are still in business.Just my $.02 worth,Bruce WhitmoreSent from Samsung 
tablet.
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Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?, also 34 & 35-2

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Thanks John. It seems there is an error at sailboatdata.com regarding the
34 being a Bruce King design. It's interesting, because I wouldn't have
noticed except someone from an Ericson list pointed me toward one,
mentioning that it was a BK design. As I like both BK and RB/C&C designs,
it doesn't really matter to me, but it does emphasize to not trust
everything you read online!

As it happens, we might be making an offer on the 35-2 we looked at in
January. Still mulling it over, as we're in a tough spot where making an
offer might just force the other interested party to make a higher offer,
and any offer we make will be as high as we can go; I am not going to get
into a bidding war. While I really like the boat, I just spent over an hour
on the phone with the previous owner of 32 years, and even he admitted that
since the major refit he did in 2003, there will be things needing
attention just due to age. But all the weak points have been addressed -
mast step, every hole epoxy filled & drilled, epoxy barrier coat, etc.

Sorry, there I go again, changing the tack of the thread... oops!



On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 6:03 PM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Shawn
>
>
>
> FWIW, there is a designer’s commentary on the 34 by Rob Ball as the
> designer.  I also believe he owns one here on Buzzard’s Bay.  There is also
> a posting today on this list of a 34 for sale very inexpensively.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Shawn
> Wright via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:15 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Shawn Wright
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?
>
>
>
> Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King,
> whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is
> only one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price
> is a bit more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might
> be a slow seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all,
> except the cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there
> is a C&C model between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just
> finding one near me at a decent price is the problem.
>
>
>
> This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to
> Vancouver to see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).
>
>
> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing
>
>
>
> I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit
> slower, but maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than
> the later blade. Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Shawn
>
>
>
> Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails
> like a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed
> head with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot &
> cold pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their
> gear.  No generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld
> attractively priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish
> (475 built).   Of course at this vintage individual condition may vary.
>
> My 2 cents American
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
>
> Legacy III
>
> 1982 C&C 34
>
> Noank, CT
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

Kind of the same thing happen to a 36 at my club, Same bolt under the mast, the 
one that gets the water from the mast. the owner was torquing the keels bolts 
and maybe he went a bit crazy. Anyways, the keel J bolt came loose spin with 
the nut and created a bulge. So maybe the caster is not the only one to blame 
or the winters . He let it dried, injected acetone followed by epoxy, hammered 
the lead back and let it cured. Seems fine know.

Bruno lachance.

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 18 avr. 2019 à 21:03, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

Interesting, I was just talking with a friend this afternoon with a C&C36, with 
a much bigger bulge than that.
Looks like it is the keel bolt just under the mast. Fellow he has working on it 
said he drilled a hole in it, and got at least a quart of water squirting out, 
they put a borescope in there, and it is quite a cavern.  Don’t know how 
something like this could happen, obviously the Casters were smoking pot that 
day.

Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eugene Fodor 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:07 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Eugene Fodor
Subject: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel bolt 
on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but found 
nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do the same 
thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and expands 
recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own the boat 
unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an easier plan. I 
have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose, but it seems like 
that might take a while.

Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the pictures, 
but the cracking is the telltale.

Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this issue?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8

Thanks,

Gene Fodor
Hawk
C&C 29-2
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Re: Stus-List Replacing a CnC 44 Rudder

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

Dan, three years ago I had my 33 mk II rebuilt by Compétition composite in 
ontario 
http://cci.one/site/marine/foils-a-z/cc/?doing_wp_cron=1555635569.6945309638977050781250

They did a fantastique job. CNC machined high density corecell core, vaccum 
bagged with epoxy resin. The shape and symetry is perfect. It feels awesome.  
They uses the original planform. I sent them my delaminated wet rudder, they 
wanted to measure it to be sure of the hull clearance, they inspect the rudder 
post and it was perfect so they used it for the rebuilt. If i remember it was a 
bit cheaper than a new one from Southshore and the quality seemed superior. Who 
knows.

 If they don't have it for the 44, you can get the planform from the original 
drawings. ( available from a museum in Ontario, don't remember the exact name 
but other listers will)

Shipping was expensive, I had to have a very sturdy wood cradle made to ship 
the rudder and of them to reuse. When I received it I was glad to have made it 
bomproof because the box was damaged but not the precious new rudder.

Good luck!

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine 33mkII
New Richmond, Qc

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mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> de la 
part de Dan via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Envoyé : Thursday, April 18, 2019 3:38:02 PM
À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc : Dan
Objet : Stus-List Replacing a CnC 44 Rudder

Has any C&C44 owners on the list replaced their rudder, and if so, where did 
you have the work done? - The price is dramatically reduced if they have an 
existing mold to work with.

Dan Cormier
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Hi Shawn

 

FWIW, there is a designer’s commentary on the 34 by Rob Ball as the designer.  
I also believe he owns one here on Buzzard’s Bay.  There is also a posting 
today on this list of a 34 for sale very inexpensively.

 

John

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Wright 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Shawn Wright
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?

 

Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King, 
whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is only 
one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price is a bit 
more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might be a slow 
seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all, except the 
cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there is a C&C model 
between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just finding one near me at 
a decent price is the problem.

 

This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver to 
see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing

 

I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit slower, but 
maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than the later blade. 
Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.

 

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi Shawn

 

Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails like 
a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed head 
with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & cold 
pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their gear.  No 
generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld attractively 
priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish (475 built).   Of 
course at this vintage individual condition may vary.

My 2 cents American

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Interesting, I was just talking with a friend this afternoon with a C&C36, with 
a much bigger bulge than that.

Looks like it is the keel bolt just under the mast. Fellow he has working on it 
said he drilled a hole in it, and got at least a quart of water squirting out, 
they put a borescope in there, and it is quite a cavern.  Don’t know how 
something like this could happen, obviously the Casters were smoking pot that 
day.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eugene Fodor 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:07 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Eugene Fodor
Subject: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

 

So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel bolt 
on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but found 
nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do the same 
thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and expands 
recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own the boat 
unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an easier plan. I 
have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose, but it seems like 
that might take a while. 

 

Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the pictures, 
but the cracking is the telltale. 

 

Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this issue?

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8  

 

Thanks,

 

Gene Fodor

Hawk

C&C 29-2

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Re: Stus-List Replacing a CnC 44 Rudder

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I replaced the rudder on my LF38 about 12 years ago.  I bought the replacement 
rudder from South Shore and had it shipped to my boatyard in Maryland.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Presently traveling north on ICW)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 3:38 PM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Has any C&C44 owners on the list replaced their rudder, and if so, where did 
> you have the work done? - The price is dramatically reduced if they have an 
> existing mold to work with.
> 
> Dan Cormier
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Last call C&C 34

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Jim,

Are you listed with a broker?   How much?

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


From: CnC-List  on behalf of jim aridas via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 5:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: jim aridas
Subject: Re: Stus-List Last call C&C 34

Much to my dismay I have no takers on my 1982 34 .
It is amazing what people expect for $6000 that do come out, and the fact that 
there are no takers looking for a sailable boat that needs a little TLC.
If I don't get a taker soon I will be parting out and disposing of the hull. 
Have to believe I will get more than 5k for parts.
Stay tuned. All harken sail handling equipment, st winches, etc.
Boat add can be seen on CL Jersey Shore area.
Jim , Galaxy
Sent from my Verizon Smartphone
On Apr 18, 2019 11:15 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List  
wrote:
Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King, 
whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is only 
one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price is a bit 
more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might be a slow 
seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all, except the 
cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there is a C&C model 
between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just finding one near me at 
a decent price is the problem.

This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver to 
see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing

I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit slower, but 
maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than the later blade. 
Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Shawn

Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails like 
a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed head 
with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & cold 
pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their gear.  No 
generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld attractively 
priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish (475 built).   Of 
course at this vintage individual condition may vary.
My 2 cents American

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT

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Re: Stus-List Last call C&C 34

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Much to my dismay I have no takers on my 1982 34 .
It is amazing what people expect for $6000 that do come out, and the fact that 
there are no takers looking for a sailable boat that needs a little TLC.
If I don't get a taker soon I will be parting out and disposing of the hull. 
Have to believe I will get more than 5k for parts.
Stay tuned. All harken sail handling equipment, st winches, etc.
Boat add can be seen on CL Jersey Shore area.
Jim , Galaxy
Sent from my Verizon Smartphone
On Apr 18, 2019 11:15 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List  
wrote:
Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King, 
whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is only 
one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price is a bit 
more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might be a slow 
seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all, except the 
cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there is a C&C model 
between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just finding one near me at 
a decent price is the problem.

This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver to 
see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing

I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit slower, but 
maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than the later blade. 
Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Shawn

Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails like 
a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed head 
with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & cold 
pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their gear.  No 
generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld attractively 
priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish (475 built).   Of 
course at this vintage individual condition may vary.
My 2 cents American

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT

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Stus-List Replacing a CnC 44 Rudder

[Dan via CnC-List]

Has any C&C44 owners on the list replaced their rudder, and if so, where
did you have the work done? - The price is dramatically reduced if they
have an existing mold to work with.

Dan Cormier
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

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Hi Alan,

I think my surveyor missed it on the initial report and we discussed it as
I recall. I recall seeing it when I first purchased the boat. It's a pretty
common with northern C&C's when I spoke to Eric Thomas the marina owner at
Barker's Island. He had suggested the drilling/hammering/etc when I did the
first repair.

Thanks,

Gene


>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:57:45 -0700
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> To: "C&C" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town
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> I recommend you have a surveyor look at that. The crack tells me you have a
> bigger problem than you might think. The small cost will at least give you
> peace of mind if it's nothing for you to worry about.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Eugene Fodor via CnC-List]

That's a great suggestion. I did drill it in the fall the first time I did
the repair (drilled in the fall, repaired in the spring). The trick is
trying to find the void. I may need to drill a few holes. :-(

Gene

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:33 AM Ken Heaton  wrote:

> " Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but found
> nothing) "
>
> Did you drill the hole in the fall, before you had freezing temperatures?
> If not I'd think about re-drilling the same hole every fall to let water
> drain, and fill it in the spring.  If there's no water then it can't freeze.
>
> Ken H.
>
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Stus-List Shediac New Brumswick 35-II

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

 comfort as well as my crew?s.
>>> 
>>> It?s been my opinion that comfort with heeling comes from time and
>>> experience on boats. Much like someone else mentioned, conditions and
>>> training even for catamaran appreciators will eventually win over
>>> relatively new sailors.
>>> 
>>> There?s little I?d change in my 29?. I?d recommend getting a survey and
>>> seeing if it?s still the best deal on the market. No matter what you go
>>> with, keep your crew in mind while helping them to gain the time and
>>> experience required to become comfortable. Find other friends with more
>>> experience that your crew knows and respects and give them the helm. I?ve
>>> found that having my friend Kristin aboard gives me ample time to compare
>>> my level of comfort vs her?s. She?s far more experienced than I am, and is
>>> the perfect bell weather.
>>> 
>>> Jeremy Dinsel
>>> C&C 29 1977
>>> Seattle, Wa
>>> 
>>> iTypo'd expressly for you.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 18:00, Shawn Wright  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm interested in opinions of a '77 C&C 29. There is one named "Tooth &
>>> Nail" that has been for sale in Vancouver for some time now. The photos
>>> look good, apparently has a good sail inventory, decent Yanmar engine,
>>> wheel steering. Apparently a popular local race boat (so it may be beat
>>> up?)
>>> 
>>> It doesn't seem likely that we're going to find a 35' this season, so I'm
>>> looking at smaller, cheaper boats so we can begin sailing while still keep
>>> an eye out for the right boat. At the moment, the smaller, cheaper boats
>>> include a very well kept Ericson 29, and this C&C 29, both for around $12K
>>> CAD.
>>> 
>>> One reason I overlooked the 29 in the past was based on where it sits on
>>> the stability diagram - right at the top among the most tender of all
>>> boats. How serious a concern is this for cruising as keelboat beginners? I
>>> don't want to scare my wife, who has very little sailing experience, with a
>>> very tender boat. She gets uncomfortable when sailing on a friend's
>>> Macgregor 26, which seems to heel over at the slightest gust.
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

" Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but found
nothing) "

Did you drill the hole in the fall, before you had freezing temperatures?
If not I'd think about re-drilling the same hole every fall to let water
drain, and fill it in the spring.  If there's no water then it can't freeze.

Ken H.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 12:07, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel
> bolt on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but
> found nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do
> the same thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and
> expands recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own
> the boat unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an
> easier plan. I have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose,
> but it seems like that might take a while.
>
> Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the
> pictures, but the cracking is the telltale.
>
> Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this
> issue?
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene Fodor
> Hawk
> C&C 29-2
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Hi Shawn



Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails 
like a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed 
head with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & 
cold pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their 
gear.  No generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld 
attractively priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish 
(475 built).   Of course at this vintage individual condition may vary.


My 2 cents American



John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

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So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel
bolt on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but
found nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do
the same thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and
expands recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own
the boat unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an
easier plan. I have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose,
but it seems like that might take a while.

Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the
pictures, but the cracking is the telltale.

Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this
issue?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8

Thanks,

Gene Fodor
Hawk
C&C 29-2
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From: Shawn Wright 
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Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King,
whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is
only one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price
is a bit more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might
be a slow seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all,
except the cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there
is a C&C model between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just
finding one near me at a decent price is the problem.

This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver
to see the 29 that is listed at the same bro

Re: Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I recommend you have a surveyor look at that. The crack tells me you have a
bigger problem than you might think. The small cost will at least give you
peace of mind if it's nothing for you to worry about.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 8:07 AM Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel
> bolt on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but
> found nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do
> the same thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and
> expands recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own
> the boat unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an
> easier plan. I have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose,
> but it seems like that might take a while.
>
> Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the
> pictures, but the cracking is the telltale.
>
> Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this
> issue?
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8
> 
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene Fodor
> Hawk
> C&C 29-2
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Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

That is a very nice looking 35-1.  I see some good equipment like chrome
bronze or stainless winches, lines run aft on the cabin top, nice
upholstery, pressure water, etc.  Upgrades that are already done.  Things
that cost me a bunch of boat bucks to do to my 35-1.

The windlass is a $1500 upgrade in itself.

I'd take a hard look at it.

I've had Touche' for 20 years and still love it.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


> This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to
> Vancouver to see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).
>
> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing
>
> I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit
> slower, but maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than
> the later blade. Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King,
whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is
only one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price
is a bit more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might
be a slow seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all,
except the cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there
is a C&C model between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just
finding one near me at a decent price is the problem.

This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver
to see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing

I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit slower,
but maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than the later
blade. Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Shawn
>
>
>
> Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails
> like a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed
> head with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot &
> cold pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their
> gear.  No generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld
> attractively priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish
> (475 built).   Of course at this vintage individual condition may vary.
>
> My 2 cents American
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
>
> Legacy III
>
> 1982 C&C 34
>
> Noank, CT
>
>
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Stus-List The bulge is back in town

[Eugene Fodor via CnC-List]

So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel
bolt on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but
found nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do
the same thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and
expands recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own
the boat unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an
easier plan. I have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose,
but it seems like that might take a while.

Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the
pictures, but the cracking is the telltale.

Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this
issue?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8

Thanks,

Gene Fodor
Hawk
C&C 29-2
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Hi Shawn

 

Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails like 
a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed head 
with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & cold 
pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their gear.  No 
generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld attractively 
priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish (475 built).   Of 
course at this vintage individual condition may vary.

My 2 cents American

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

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