Re: Stus-List New Nav App for my iPad

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I run Navionics and iNavX on my iPad. Not sure what generation iPad it is but 
it has the new charger port. 
I like both for different applications. I feel like iNavX is more precise...or 
clear. But I like Navionics because I don’t have to shift to different charts 
all the time for route planning.
By the way I got a refurbished 12” iPad Pro from apple at a steep discount to 
use as my nav table repeater on Masquerade. It looks brand new.
Andy 

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

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Re: Stus-List New Nav App for my iPad

[Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List]

If you are signed in to the Apple Store with an Apple ID, you may find that 
re-loading your software (at least some of it) is automatic if you back up to 
iCloud.

 

I am a die-hard PC user, but was quite nicely surprised that when I upgrade or 
add a new Apple device, much of my “stuff” follows along…

 

Neil

1982 C 32, FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Robert Boyer via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 2:21 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Boyer 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Nav App for my iPad

 

I really like AquaMap—I mainly use it for route planning.  I don’t like to use 
my iPad where it could be exposed to water, like in the cockpit.  You might 
want to look on eBay for a newer iPad.

 

Bob

Bob Boyer

s/v Rainy Days

C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)

(Presently in Baltimore for the summer)

blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com  

email: dainyr...@icloud.com  


On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Bear with me for a moment while I explain my situation and get to my question.

 

I have an older iPad that gets used for several things, including backup for 
the Garmin plotter on my own boat and an alternate to the plotters on OPB’s 
when I’m doing deliveries. The iPad has the older Garmin Blue Chart Mobile App 
(with charts updated to spring 2018) with older Active Captain data (very 
useful when on the ICW, but can’t be updated in Blue Chart Mobile), Predict 
Wind, Drag Queen, and some other navigation stuff. When not on a boat I use the 
pad as an e-reader, to get email occasionally, to check the weather, etc.

 

I’m not sure what generation of iPad it is, but it is old enough that it has 
the wide Apple connection and not the new one introduced with the iPhone 5 or 6 
several years ago. The operating system is IOS 9.3.5, but because of the age of 
the device I can’t upgrade to a higher version of IOS.

 

I’d like to update/upgrade the charts, but the Garmin App that replaced Blue 
Chart Mobile (and includes the new Active Captain software) requires IOS 10 or 
higher. I looked at iNAVX, but that also requires IOS 10 or higher. I would 
need to buy a newer iPad (though a friend suggested going to a local pawn shop 
to save on the cost) and reload all my other stuff – which I’d like to avoid.

 

I’ve heard positive comments about Aqua Map, which contains AC data and uses 
Explorer charts, and has very good reviews on the App Store. The Navionics 
Marine and Lakes app is recently updated (I think Garmin bought Navionics and 
now uses those charts for the Garmin app and plotters), and has a lot of 
features like automated (?) route planning, but has a lower average review than 
Aqua Map. Either will run on the IOS 9 that I have on my iPad.

 

So my question is (or maybe that should be questions are):

 

Can anyone comment on experience with Navionics or Aqua Map?

 

Can anyone suggest a good alternative App that will run on my iPad and let me 
update my cahrts for the east coast and Bahamas?

 

Thanks for your comments/suggestions.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

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Re: Stus-List New Nav App for my iPad

[Adrian Humphreys via CnC-List]

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I looked at iNAVX, but that also requires IOS 10 or higher. 

I am running iNavX v5.2 on an older iPad with iOS 9.3.5 with a blue-tooth GPS 
(DUAL xgps150a). Very satisfactory. 

Maybe worth an email to the developer to see if they would supply an earlier 
version compatible with your iOS version.


Adrian Humphreys
Epilogue, Rockport ME
C 33-2 
adri...@telamontech.com





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Re: Stus-List New Nav App for my iPad

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

My current iPad is cellular ready, so it has the GPS, but I don’t use the 
connection. For Wi-Fi I use the network in the house, my phone as a hotspot, or 
use the Verizon Wi-Fi  card on the boat.

 

Thanks for the reminder.

 

Rick

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 2:51 PM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Nav App for my iPad

 

Rick,

 

Be sure any new IPad is cellular ready or you will have to buy a GPS dongle for 
it.  I've bought used gear from Gazelle.com and been happy with it.

 

Joel

Still lurking!

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 2:21 PM Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I really like AquaMap—I mainly use it for route planning.  I don’t like to use 
my iPad where it could be exposed to water, like in the cockpit.  You might 
want to look on eBay for a newer iPad.

 

Bob

Bob Boyer

s/v Rainy Days

C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)

(Presently in Baltimore for the summer)

blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com  

email: dainyr...@icloud.com  


On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Bear with me for a moment while I explain my situation and get to my question.

 

I have an older iPad that gets used for several things, including backup for 
the Garmin plotter on my own boat and an alternate to the plotters on OPB’s 
when I’m doing deliveries. The iPad has the older Garmin Blue Chart Mobile App 
(with charts updated to spring 2018) with older Active Captain data (very 
useful when on the ICW, but can’t be updated in Blue Chart Mobile), Predict 
Wind, Drag Queen, and some other navigation stuff. When not on a boat I use the 
pad as an e-reader, to get email occasionally, to check the weather, etc.

 

I’m not sure what generation of iPad it is, but it is old enough that it has 
the wide Apple connection and not the new one introduced with the iPhone 5 or 6 
several years ago. The operating system is IOS 9.3.5, but because of the age of 
the device I can’t upgrade to a higher version of IOS.

 

I’d like to update/upgrade the charts, but the Garmin App that replaced Blue 
Chart Mobile (and includes the new Active Captain software) requires IOS 10 or 
higher. I looked at iNAVX, but that also requires IOS 10 or higher. I would 
need to buy a newer iPad (though a friend suggested going to a local pawn shop 
to save on the cost) and reload all my other stuff – which I’d like to avoid.

 

I’ve heard positive comments about Aqua Map, which contains AC data and uses 
Explorer charts, and has very good reviews on the App Store. The Navionics 
Marine and Lakes app is recently updated (I think Garmin bought Navionics and 
now uses those charts for the Garmin app and plotters), and has a lot of 
features like automated (?) route planning, but has a lower average review than 
Aqua Map. Either will run on the IOS 9 that I have on my iPad.

 

So my question is (or maybe that should be questions are):

 

Can anyone comment on experience with Navionics or Aqua Map?

 

Can anyone suggest a good alternative App that will run on my iPad and let me 
update my cahrts for the east coast and Bahamas?

 

Thanks for your comments/suggestions.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

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Re: Stus-List New Nav App for my iPad

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Rick,

Be sure any new IPad is cellular ready or you will have to buy a GPS dongle
for it.  I've bought used gear from Gazelle.com and been happy with it.

Joel
Still lurking!

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 2:21 PM Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I really like AquaMap—I mainly use it for route planning.  I don’t like to
> use my iPad where it could be exposed to water, like in the cockpit.  You
> might want to look on eBay for a newer iPad.
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
> (Presently in Baltimore for the summer)
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
>
> On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Bear with me for a moment while I explain my situation and get to my
> question.
>
>
>
> I have an older iPad that gets used for several things, including backup
> for the Garmin plotter on my own boat and an alternate to the plotters on
> OPB’s when I’m doing deliveries. The iPad has the older Garmin Blue Chart
> Mobile App (with charts updated to spring 2018) with older Active Captain
> data (very useful when on the ICW, but can’t be updated in Blue Chart
> Mobile), Predict Wind, Drag Queen, and some other navigation stuff. When
> not on a boat I use the pad as an e-reader, to get email occasionally, to
> check the weather, etc.
>
>
>
> I’m not sure what generation of iPad it is, but it is old enough that it
> has the wide Apple connection and not the new one introduced with the
> iPhone 5 or 6 several years ago. The operating system is IOS 9.3.5, but
> because of the age of the device I can’t upgrade to a higher version of IOS.
>
>
>
> I’d like to update/upgrade the charts, but the Garmin App that replaced
> Blue Chart Mobile (and includes the new Active Captain software) requires
> IOS 10 or higher. I looked at iNAVX, but that also requires IOS 10 or
> higher. I would need to buy a newer iPad (though a friend suggested going
> to a local pawn shop to save on the cost) and reload all my other stuff –
> which I’d like to avoid.
>
>
>
> I’ve heard positive comments about Aqua Map, which contains AC data and
> uses Explorer charts, and has very good reviews on the App Store. The
> Navionics Marine and Lakes app is recently updated (I think Garmin bought
> Navionics and now uses those charts for the Garmin app and plotters), and
> has a lot of features like automated (?) route planning, but has a lower
> average review than Aqua Map. Either will run on the IOS 9 that I have on
> my iPad.
>
>
>
> So my question is (or maybe that should be questions are):
>
>
>
> Can anyone comment on experience with Navionics or Aqua Map?
>
>
>
> Can anyone suggest a good alternative App that will run on my iPad and let
> me update my cahrts for the east coast and Bahamas?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your comments/suggestions.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
>
> la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List New Nav App for my iPad

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I really like AquaMap—I mainly use it for route planning.  I don’t like to use 
my iPad where it could be exposed to water, like in the cockpit.  You might 
want to look on eBay for a newer iPad.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Presently in Baltimore for the summer)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Bear with me for a moment while I explain my situation and get to my question.
>  
> I have an older iPad that gets used for several things, including backup for 
> the Garmin plotter on my own boat and an alternate to the plotters on OPB’s 
> when I’m doing deliveries. The iPad has the older Garmin Blue Chart Mobile 
> App (with charts updated to spring 2018) with older Active Captain data (very 
> useful when on the ICW, but can’t be updated in Blue Chart Mobile), Predict 
> Wind, Drag Queen, and some other navigation stuff. When not on a boat I use 
> the pad as an e-reader, to get email occasionally, to check the weather, etc.
>  
> I’m not sure what generation of iPad it is, but it is old enough that it has 
> the wide Apple connection and not the new one introduced with the iPhone 5 or 
> 6 several years ago. The operating system is IOS 9.3.5, but because of the 
> age of the device I can’t upgrade to a higher version of IOS.
>  
> I’d like to update/upgrade the charts, but the Garmin App that replaced Blue 
> Chart Mobile (and includes the new Active Captain software) requires IOS 10 
> or higher. I looked at iNAVX, but that also requires IOS 10 or higher. I 
> would need to buy a newer iPad (though a friend suggested going to a local 
> pawn shop to save on the cost) and reload all my other stuff – which I’d like 
> to avoid.
>  
> I’ve heard positive comments about Aqua Map, which contains AC data and uses 
> Explorer charts, and has very good reviews on the App Store. The Navionics 
> Marine and Lakes app is recently updated (I think Garmin bought Navionics and 
> now uses those charts for the Garmin app and plotters), and has a lot of 
> features like automated (?) route planning, but has a lower average review 
> than Aqua Map. Either will run on the IOS 9 that I have on my iPad.
>  
> So my question is (or maybe that should be questions are):
>  
> Can anyone comment on experience with Navionics or Aqua Map?
>  
> Can anyone suggest a good alternative App that will run on my iPad and let me 
> update my cahrts for the east coast and Bahamas?
>  
> Thanks for your comments/suggestions.
>  
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
> la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
> Washington, NC
>  
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Stus-List New Nav App for my iPad

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Bear with me for a moment while I explain my situation and get to my
question.

 

I have an older iPad that gets used for several things, including backup for
the Garmin plotter on my own boat and an alternate to the plotters on OPB's
when I'm doing deliveries. The iPad has the older Garmin Blue Chart Mobile
App (with charts updated to spring 2018) with older Active Captain data
(very useful when on the ICW, but can't be updated in Blue Chart Mobile),
Predict Wind, Drag Queen, and some other navigation stuff. When not on a
boat I use the pad as an e-reader, to get email occasionally, to check the
weather, etc.

 

I'm not sure what generation of iPad it is, but it is old enough that it has
the wide Apple connection and not the new one introduced with the iPhone 5
or 6 several years ago. The operating system is IOS 9.3.5, but because of
the age of the device I can't upgrade to a higher version of IOS.

 

I'd like to update/upgrade the charts, but the Garmin App that replaced Blue
Chart Mobile (and includes the new Active Captain software) requires IOS 10
or higher. I looked at iNAVX, but that also requires IOS 10 or higher. I
would need to buy a newer iPad (though a friend suggested going to a local
pawn shop to save on the cost) and reload all my other stuff - which I'd
like to avoid.

 

I've heard positive comments about Aqua Map, which contains AC data and uses
Explorer charts, and has very good reviews on the App Store. The Navionics
Marine and Lakes app is recently updated (I think Garmin bought Navionics
and now uses those charts for the Garmin app and plotters), and has a lot of
features like automated (?) route planning, but has a lower average review
than Aqua Map. Either will run on the IOS 9 that I have on my iPad.

 

So my question is (or maybe that should be questions are):

 

Can anyone comment on experience with Navionics or Aqua Map?

 

Can anyone suggest a good alternative App that will run on my iPad and let
me update my cahrts for the east coast and Bahamas?

 

Thanks for your comments/suggestions.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

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Re: Stus-List Survey About Racing

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Read Dennis Conner “no excuse to lose”

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:55 PM Ian Matthew via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Randy
>
> Here's my information
> 1. Where do you race?
> San Francisco Bay
> 2. What wind conditions are the rule and exception there?
> Summer - Westerly winds up to 30 knots (every afternoon) in the summer - a
> lot lighter  and more variable October - February
> 3. What kind of courses do you sail?
> All sorts - I prefer the longer races
> 4. What sail plan do you fly?
> Main, #3 jib (110%) usually in the summer, #1 (155%) in the lighter winds,
> spinnaker
> 5. What model of boat are you racing?
> C 29 mk 1
> 6. What PHRF rating do you race with? (please list adjustments)
> 174
> 7. What is your boat’s fastest point of sail?
> Most competitive on very broad reach to run.  Upwind is a struggle in the
> high winds, but I play the currents well.
> 8. Is there leapfrogging in your races, or do boat-for-boat positions stay
> fairly constant?
> Depends - I usually do a lot of catching up off the wind
> 9. How many boats are you usually competing against?
> club racing: 5-10, inter-club racing on the bay: 50-150.  Most I have
> raced against is 350 (Three Bridge Fiasco in January)
> 10. In general, how well do you perform in racing results?
> Usually on the podium
>
> And now a few more subjective questions:
>
> 11. Do you think your boat’s rating assumes you’ll race it on a particular
> kind of course with a particular sail plan?
> Well yes!!  I race against Newport 30's , Olson 25's, J-24's and a Cal 34
> Mk 1 which is rated 174.  (He has me easily upwind and I overtake him
> downwind!!)
> 12. How do you think your local rating authority determines the rating for
> your boat?
> The NCPHRF is a good committee and I think they do a really good job.The
> committee includes well known racers such as Seadon Wijsen, Jim Antrim,
> Stan Honey and Kame Richards (Pineapple Sails)
> 13. What do you think are the most important factors in your performance
> against your competition?
> Tactics!!  Good start, playing the currents and being aggressive on my
> competitors downwind.  I have a superb crew that can handle the spinnaker
> really well.  Takedowns occur inside 2 boatlengths of the leeward mark.
> 14. What do you think are the most important race tactics for beating your
> competition?
> Being smart - thinking ahead.  And race preparation, studying the wind
> forecast and knowing what the currents are going to do.  The San Francisco
> Bay is a very technical race zone.
>
> Hope this helps you.
> --
> Ian Matthew
> "Siento el Viento"  C 29-1
> San Francisco Bay
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Re: Stus-List Survey About Racing

[Ian Matthew via CnC-List]

Randy

Here's my information
1. Where do you race?
San Francisco Bay
2. What wind conditions are the rule and exception there?
Summer - Westerly winds up to 30 knots (every afternoon) in the summer - a
lot lighter  and more variable October - February
3. What kind of courses do you sail?
All sorts - I prefer the longer races
4. What sail plan do you fly?
Main, #3 jib (110%) usually in the summer, #1 (155%) in the lighter winds,
spinnaker
5. What model of boat are you racing?
C 29 mk 1
6. What PHRF rating do you race with? (please list adjustments)
174
7. What is your boat’s fastest point of sail?
Most competitive on very broad reach to run.  Upwind is a struggle in the
high winds, but I play the currents well.
8. Is there leapfrogging in your races, or do boat-for-boat positions stay
fairly constant?
Depends - I usually do a lot of catching up off the wind
9. How many boats are you usually competing against?
club racing: 5-10, inter-club racing on the bay: 50-150.  Most I have raced
against is 350 (Three Bridge Fiasco in January)
10. In general, how well do you perform in racing results?
Usually on the podium

And now a few more subjective questions:

11. Do you think your boat’s rating assumes you’ll race it on a particular
kind of course with a particular sail plan?
Well yes!!  I race against Newport 30's , Olson 25's, J-24's and a Cal 34
Mk 1 which is rated 174.  (He has me easily upwind and I overtake him
downwind!!)
12. How do you think your local rating authority determines the rating for
your boat?
The NCPHRF is a good committee and I think they do a really good job.The
committee includes well known racers such as Seadon Wijsen, Jim Antrim,
Stan Honey and Kame Richards (Pineapple Sails)
13. What do you think are the most important factors in your performance
against your competition?
Tactics!!  Good start, playing the currents and being aggressive on my
competitors downwind.  I have a superb crew that can handle the spinnaker
really well.  Takedowns occur inside 2 boatlengths of the leeward mark.
14. What do you think are the most important race tactics for beating your
competition?
Being smart - thinking ahead.  And race preparation, studying the wind
forecast and knowing what the currents are going to do.  The San Francisco
Bay is a very technical race zone.

Hope this helps you.
-- 
Ian Matthew
"Siento el Viento"  C 29-1
San Francisco Bay
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Re: Stus-List Survey About Racing

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Thank you Don, very helpful.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Jul 16, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Don Kern  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/27/2019 10:16 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote:
>> Hello Listers, I’d like to conduct a little survey about racing, tapping 
>> into the broad experience, geography, and boat diversity represented on this 
>> list. What prompted this is a discussion in my club about ratings, which 
>> expanded into a discussion about courses, tactics, and relative performance. 
>> I’d like to get perspective from the collective knowledge on this list, to 
>> add into that discussion. So here are some fairly objective survey 
>> questions, for those of you who race your boats:
> 1. Where do you race? Narragansett Bay, Buzzards Bay, Long Island Sound
> 
> 2. What wind conditions are the rule and exception there? 12 to 18 kts Spring 
> & Fall , 5-10 kts late Jul to mid Aug  Note: all three regions experience 
> Tidal Currents up to 4 kts
> 
> 3. What kind of courses do you sail? Round the nav buoys 
> 
> 4. What sail plan do you fly? Main, Genoa, sym Spin 
> 
> 5. What model of boat are you racing? C Mk-2 (1974)
> 
> 6. What PHRF rating do you race with? (please list adjustments) PHRF-NB 
> 134/156 (Base 126, Genoa+2, Main +9 (boom 2' short), Misc -3 (6' draft))   
> PHRF-ECSA (OSC) 126/148 (Base 123, Main+6, LP of J +1, pole Spin g/spl -1, 
> Keel mod -3)
> 
> 7. What is your boat’s fastest point of sail?  Reaching
> 
> 8. Is there leapfrogging in your races, or do boat-for-boat positions stay 
> fairly constant? Very dependent on wind conditions especially in July Aug 
> where boats can sail into a hole and one has to very aware of current 
> patterns in the light air
> 
> 9. How many boats are you usually competing against? 10 to 18 in starting 
> class 
> 
> 10. In general, how well do you perform in racing results? Usually top three
> 
> And now a few more subjective questions: 
> 
> 11. Do you think your boat’s rating assumes you’ll race it on a particular 
> kind of course with a particular sail plan? PHRF-NB rates boats for around 
> the buoys racing.  the rating assumes a specific sail and hull plan - 
> modifications from standard are adjusted,  Sails are rated for both bigger 
> and smaller than normal.  Most clubs in the area scoring is done using  Time 
> on Time calculation method.
> 
> 12. How do you think your local rating authority determines the rating for 
> your boat? By boat/class ie; C Mk2. (Only three C Mk2 still racing on 
> Narr. Bay; 2 offshore racers one Narra Bay only)  My rating has been fairly 
> consistent for the last 35 yrs slowly increasing, no big jumps, incrementally 
> +1 every few years = boats older, i am older, we are getting slower
> 
> If a specific boat competitor is doing extremely well the rating committee 
> will look at boat modifications, boat preparation (who did the bottom, wet or 
> dry sanded, how often cleaned), sail material, age of sails, crew experience 
> (we have world class sailors racing here) and if needed make an adjustment.  
> If the boat was optimally prepared, with no modifications, and is getting 1st 
> 2nd and 3rds and the crew is semi professional (lots of sail lofts and boat 
> builders/designers here) they will leave the rating as is.  If the boat was 
> not optionally prepared they will look for modifications and adjust 
> accordingly.  The rating is for the boat, not for the crew, tactics nor 
> sailing knowledge.  
> 
> That said, there is adjustment by some of the clubs (Off Soundings, Twenty 
> Hundred) to level the winners and give others a chance to win by imposing a 
> Burden of Winning (BOW) penalty. In the Off Soundings series for achieving  
> 1st, 2nd and 3rd place you will receive Performance Penalty Points factor of 
> 3, 2 or 1 respectively where each point equals 8 seconds. BOW Penalties 
> points do accumulate to a maximum factor of 9 points and expire after 3 
> yearly series.  For the Twenty Hundred Club series if you place in 1st, 2nd 
> or 3rd position you receive a penalty which subtracts from your race rating 
> 15 sec/mile, 10 sec/mile or 5 sec/mile for first, second or third 
> respectively.  This penalty is only imposed the for that series in the 
> following year. 
> 
> 13. What do you think are the most important factors in your performance 
> against your competition? Crew work, the correct sail choice, a good start, 
> knowing the venue (wind & water), and knowing the boat's polars
> 
> 14. What do you think are the most important race tactics for beating your 
> competition? Good start - on the line moving at speed, If ahead do not let 
> nearest competitors split, If following clear your air and take advantage of 
> current and wind shifts.
> 
> Don Kern
> Fireball C Mk2
> Bristol, RI
> 
> 
> Thank you very much in advance for your responses to this survey. Best 
> Regards, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C 30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO 
> ___ Thanks everyone for 
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