Re: Stus-List Stainless Anchors at Defender

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Wanted a Rocna or mantus for my 37. But may have to jump on this!
How does the Delta compare  ?have an old Bruce now
Thanks

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On Jan 3, 2020, at 4:35 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Still absurd.  $1220 seems a bit high for my budget.
On January 3, 2020 at 4:29 PM David Knecht via CnC-List  
wrote:

Someone was looking for an anchor recently on the list.  Defender has an absurd 
price on scratched stainless steel delta anchors:
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C619045%7C1970771=6584140

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Stus-List C owners

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

I just wanted to show some appreciation for Stu's email list and thank some of 
it's members who I never would have met otherwise.  First, I want to thank 
those who answered my many questions when I first bought my boat in 2002 and 
all of the great advice given over those early years.  I'd like to thank Stu 
for maintaining his list and specifically:

Martin De Young who took me sailing aboard his custom 43 on Elliot Bay, 
Seattle, Washington, when I visited my daughter stationed there.  

Craig Montaque who met me for lunch and showed me his project boat and Port 
Townsend, Wa.

Edd Shillay who let me and my son crew a couple races aboard Enterprise at City 
Island, NY to see how spinnakers are handled during a race.

Monty Schumpert who helped me find a beautiful boat slip near Annapolis Md.

Francois Rivard from Atlanta, Ga who when traveling through New Jersey, made a 
little detour to come sailing on my boat w his family on the Magothy River in 
Maryland and has since become a very good friend.

Lastly, I'd like to send a thank you out to the many boat owners who made the 
effort to meet at various Rendezvous and the those who hosted those events.  
Thanks David Risch, Edd Shillay, Josh Muckley and others.

Without Stu's list, we wouldn't know each other.  His list introduced me to 
C'ers across the US and Canada.

Thanks Stu,

Best regards,
Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Pasadena Md

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Re: Stus-List Stainless Anchors at Defender

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

35 LB   44 to 52 Feet42 to 50 Feet0057216  35.00 Lbs.  Only 2 LeftList Price: $1,220.34Scratch & Dent Price: $350.00Def1st Price: $287.50 
$287


On Jan 3, 2020, at 4:34 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER  wrote:

  
   
 
 
  
   Still absurd.  $1220 seems a bit high for my budget.
  
  
   On January 3, 2020 at 4:29 PM David Knecht via CnC-List  wrote: 

Someone was looking for an anchor recently on the list.  Defender has an absurd price on scratched stainless steel delta anchors:
   
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C619045%7C1970771=6584140
   
   


 
  
   S/V Aries
  
  
   1990 C 34+
  
  
   New London, CT
  
   
   
 


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Re: Stus-List Stainless Anchors at Defender

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Still absurd.  $1220 seems a bit high for my budget.

> On January 3, 2020 at 4:29 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Someone was looking for an anchor recently on the list.  Defender has an 
> absurd price on scratched stainless steel delta anchors:
> https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C619045%7C1970771=6584140
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
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Stus-List Stainless Anchors at Defender

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Someone was looking for an anchor recently on the list.  Defender has an absurd 
price on scratched stainless steel delta anchors:
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C619045%7C1970771=6584140

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List C 37 For Sale

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Bummer,
I am a bit partial as I have exact same boat in 1982 model From experience of 2 
years ownership and little PHRF racing this season (she won everything we 
entered) I can confidently state she is comfortable, fast, and sails like a 
dream,  she’s a great boat for sure!! Wish you  luck with the sale
I would love  to see some pics on how the lines are led to the cockpit if you 
had them  and you running rigging set up.. also is this the original mast ?
Thanks a bunch

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
wrote:


Hi Folks

It’s time to close another chapter in my life.  After much thought and tears I 
(we) have decided it’s time to part with Persuasion.  For more information 
please visit www.persuasion37.ca


Regards
Mike
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Re: Stus-List Re core my deck - mat with epoxy yes but

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Yes, one can use epoxy with fiberglass mat as long as the mat is of the 
stitched type as opposed to the more common glued binder.  The binding glue is 
the problem with epoxy as the fiberglass strand in mat wets out with epoxy, but 
the binder that holding things together does not dissolve. I recall reading 
this first on Wally’s site and later confirmed it when I purchased some 
stitched mat.   Here a link I just googled:  
https://www.skaps.com/en/stitched-chopped-strand-mat.html

I agree with the “go metric” but let me add to it a “go medical”.   For mixing 
small quantities (which is the majority of the time), I found using medical 
syringes work great.  They are cheap (about 10¢ each purchased in bulk), so you 
can freely toss them out, but they can also be reused (I keep a 1ml & 3ml for 
hardener and a 5ml and 10ml for resin).   I also keep a bunch of 1ml, 5ml, and 
10ml syringes in my resin bucket.  I have mixed as little as 3ml of epoxy.  It 
is a great way not only to precisely mix but also reduce excess waste. That 
said, I always keep a some left-over to verify the cure.   


-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 08:50:40 -0600
> From: "Dennis C." mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
> To: CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re core my deck - resin vs epoxy
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Not using epoxy with matte is also more desirable if you're finishing with
> gelcoat.  Not sure how some of the newer epoxies that cure without an amine
> blush would work with matte.  I haven't tried them.
> 
> Vinylester resin is sometimes intimidating to DIYers because of the mix
> ratios.  The West System proportional pumps make it so easy most of us just
> go for the epoxy.
> 
> One thing I learned early on about polyester, vinylester and gelcoat
> applications was to "go metric".  The suggested MEKP addition is 1-2% by
> weight.  I used a small digital kitchen scale whenever I mixed them.
> However measuring by volume is usually close enough.  Using mix cups and
> measuring cups labeled with mls (milliliters) will work.  You'll need some
> of the small 30 ml measuring cups (medicine cups) for the MEKP.  You won't
> get an accurate result if you're trying to measure 2-4 mls in a 500 ml
> cup.
> 
> Whereas epoxy has arguably better bonding, vinylester resin is a lot less
> expensive and has about the same strength.  Additionally, you avoid having
> to buy the West System proportional pumps.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List C 37 For Sale

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Hi Folks

It’s time to close another chapter in my life.  After much thought and tears I 
(we) have decided it’s time to part with Persuasion.  For more information 
please visit www.persuasion37.ca


Regards
Mike
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Re: Stus-List Re core my deck - resin vs epoxy

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Not using epoxy with matte is also more desirable if you're finishing with
gelcoat.  Not sure how some of the newer epoxies that cure without an amine
blush would work with matte.  I haven't tried them.

Vinylester resin is sometimes intimidating to DIYers because of the mix
ratios.  The West System proportional pumps make it so easy most of us just
go for the epoxy.

One thing I learned early on about polyester, vinylester and gelcoat
applications was to "go metric".  The suggested MEKP addition is 1-2% by
weight.  I used a small digital kitchen scale whenever I mixed them.
However measuring by volume is usually close enough.  Using mix cups and
measuring cups labeled with mls (milliliters) will work.  You'll need some
of the small 30 ml measuring cups (medicine cups) for the MEKP.  You won't
get an accurate result if you're trying to measure 2-4 mls in a 500 ml
cup.

Whereas epoxy has arguably better bonding, vinylester resin is a lot less
expensive and has about the same strength.  Additionally, you avoid having
to buy the West System proportional pumps.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 7:21 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Jon
>
> Yes.  I have been told no mat with epoxy.  Of course this was after I had
> in fact used mat with epoxy.  It was about the fibres of the mat not
> reacting with the epoxy as they do with polyester resin.  In my mind I
> think of "dissolving" but of course that would not be good.
>
> I will let others chime in on the reasons.
>
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax, NS
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of JP Mail via
> CnC-List
> Sent: January 2, 2020 7:35 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: JP Mail 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re core my deck
>
> Thank you for the wisdom. And pics.  No mat with epoxy?
> Love me those Frers 33s. Looked at a few before Hideaway. Tried to make an
> offer on one near home and couldn’t get through to owner. C’est la vie.
> Jon
>
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Re: Stus-List Re core my deck

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Hi Jon

Yes.  I have been told no mat with epoxy.  Of course this was after I had in 
fact used mat with epoxy.  It was about the fibres of the mat not reacting with 
the epoxy as they do with polyester resin.  In my mind I think of "dissolving" 
but of course that would not be good.

I will let others chime in on the reasons.

Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of JP Mail via CnC-List
Sent: January 2, 2020 7:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: JP Mail 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re core my deck

Thank you for the wisdom. And pics.  No mat with epoxy? 
Love me those Frers 33s. Looked at a few before Hideaway. Tried to make an 
offer on one near home and couldn’t get through to owner. C’est la vie. 
Jon 


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