Stus-List Re: Fuel Polishing System

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

I did a similar fuel exchange.  I let the tank run down during the season.  
Then I pumped out about ten gallons into jerry cans and gave them to my 
neighbor who has oil heat.  My boat has an electric booster pump so it was 
pretty easy to pull the return hose from the tank fitting and stick it in a 
jerry can.  I pulled the fuel gage sensor and the bottom of tank looked pretty 
clean so I bought fresh fuel from a trucker's station and refilled the tank.  
The engine started easier since and I found comfort knowing I got rid of the 
old diesel.

Chuck Scheaffer Resolute 1989 C&C 34R 

> On 02/04/2021 2:10 PM cenelson via CnC-List  wrote:
>  
>  
> While YMMV, I found that my attempts at fuel polishing with my ~ 35 
> gallon tank were a waste of money (when the yard did it) or time, bother and 
> mess when I did it.
>  
> Unless you clean the gunk out of the tank, no amount of new or old (but 
> polished) fuel will prevent gunk from gumming up your system 
> somewhere—pick-up tube in tank or some downstream filter or separator.
>  
> Getting rid of the old fuel can be an issue of course unless the yard 
> wants it and will pump it out. In my case, I pumped it into ~7 5 gal jerry 
> jugs and dumped them at the county fuel/oil disposal site. The jugs were 
> about $10 each so I had to invest about $70 in them.
>  
> Off road diesel is about $2.50/gallon so it cost ~$90 for NEW fuel for a 
> total cost of $160, not counting the fuel cost that I dumped.
>  
> Polishing may make sense when the amount of fuel is substantial as it 
> might be in power boat diesels or other large diesel engines where the fuel 
> tanks might hold 100’s of gallons.
>  
> On a recreational sailboat engine, not so much IMHO.
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom (~37 gallon tank)
>  
> 
> 
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> 
> On Thursday, February 4, 2021, 11:30 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> > > Sounds like a good plan, but I might consider plumbing it 
> with tees and valves so the secondary filter could become primary in case it 
> still clogs at a bad time.
> > --
> > Shawn Wright
> > shawngwri...@gmail.com mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com
> > S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:01 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < 
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Hello all,
> > >  
> > > A year or so back, I removed a generator that was installed 
> > > in the stern locker because it was totally frozen up.  When I did, an old 
> > > small Racor came out with it.  I also already have a small 12 volt fuel 
> > > pump.  
> > >  
> > > I am thinking about putting in a tee in the fuel line before 
> > > the primary Racor, and plumbing in the small Racor and pump with a 
> > > connection to an unused circuit breaker on my panel.  The output would go 
> > > back to the tank.
> > >  
> > > I could use Racors as small as 3 microns, and thus filter out 
> > > any water or contaminants using the pump when at the dock or out sailing 
> > > (we have plenty of solar power) especially when we're out banging through 
> > > waves and shaking up the contents of the tank.  
> > >  
> > > This would serve to ensure the primary Racor doesn't clog.
> > >  
> > > We haven't had any real problems, though this year I got some 
> > > water in the primary Racor bowl.  
> > >  
> > > Are there any downsides to this?
> > >  
> > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > Bruce Whitmore
> > > 1994 C&C 37/40+
> > > "Astralis"
> > > Madeira Beach, FL
> > > (847) 404-5092
> > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list 
> > > to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the 
> > > list - use PayPal to send contribution --
> > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
> > > 
> > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to 
> > > the list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your 
> > > support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --  
> > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - 
> > > Stu
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to 
> > help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list 
> > - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks 
> > - Stu
> 
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Stus-List Fresh Water Pump

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

About a year ago I was looking for experience here on a Marco UP3 freshwater 
pump, and there was no response.

 

To report on the Marco, I loved the pump, I just didn’t like that it quit 
pulling water by September. A little over 3 months.  They did eventually take 
it back, after several push-ups. 

I was hesitant  about Italian Engineering, but it was a beautiful little Gear 
Pump, mostly SS,– ran quietly, smoothly, nice little LED’s to let you know what 
was going on, , small footprint, would shut off if it sensed no water,  - As 
near as I could figure, the gears simply wore a little, enough to not create 
the suction to pull water up a meter.

 

I am not real excited with the Flojet or Jabsco pumps I have used, and the 
ShurFlos just seem so – so. 

Has anyone had any experience with the Johnson (5.0GPM Flow MasterPart #: 
10-13329-104) ? This is a variable speed/Volume, like the Marco, but not gear 
driven. It is not all that expensive, which for some reason makes me suspicious.

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

 

Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Re: Fuel Polishing System

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

The only problem is that you are using the same pickup tube.   It won’t
clean the crud in the bottom of the tank.

Joel


On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:29 PM David Risch via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> 
>
>
>
> Clean tank…happy motoring when you need it most.  Sloppy-nasty weather to
> get into safe harbor.
>
>
>
> *From:* cenelson via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2021 2:10 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* cenelson 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Fuel Polishing System
>
>
>
> While YMMV, I found that my attempts at fuel polishing with my ~ 35 gallon
> tank were a waste of money (when the yard did it) or time, bother and mess
> when I did it.
>
>
>
> Unless you clean the gunk out of the tank, no amount of new or old (but
> polished) fuel will prevent gunk from gumming up your system
> somewhere—pick-up tube in tank or some downstream filter or separator.
>
>
>
> Getting rid of the old fuel can be an issue of course unless the yard
> wants it and will pump it out. In my case, I pumped it into ~7 5 gal jerry
> jugs and dumped them at the county fuel/oil disposal site. The jugs were
> about $10 each so I had to invest about $70 in them.
>
>
>
> Off road diesel is about $2.50/gallon so it cost ~$90 for NEW fuel for a
> total cost of $160, not counting the fuel cost that I dumped.
>
>
>
> Polishing may make sense when the amount of fuel is substantial as it
> might be in power boat diesels or other large diesel engines where the fuel
> tanks might hold 100’s of gallons.
>
>
>
> On a recreational sailboat engine, not so much IMHO.
>
>
>
> Charlie Nelson
>
> Water Phantom (~37 gallon tank)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from the all new Aol app for iOS
> 
>
> On Thursday, February 4, 2021, 11:30 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds like a good plan, but I might consider plumbing it with tees and
> valves so the secondary filter could become primary in case it still clogs
> at a bad time.
>
> --
>
> Shawn Wright
>
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
>
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:01 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> A year or so back, I removed a generator that was installed in the stern
> locker because it was totally frozen up.  When I did, an old small Racor
> came out with it.  I also already have a small 12 volt fuel pump.
>
>
>
> I am thinking about putting in a tee in the fuel line before the primary
> Racor, and plumbing in the small Racor and pump with a connection to an
> unused circuit breaker on my panel.  The output would go back to the tank.
>
>
>
> I could use Racors as small as 3 microns, and thus filter out any water or
> contaminants using the pump when at the dock or out sailing (we have plenty
> of solar power) especially when we're out banging through waves and shaking
> up the contents of the tank.
>
>
>
> This would serve to ensure the primary Racor doesn't clog.
>
>
>
> We haven't had any real problems, though this year I got some water in the
> primary Racor bowl.
>
>
>
> Are there any downsides to this?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+
> "Astralis"
> Madeira Beach, FL
> (847) 404-5092
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 
> Thanks - Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 

Stus-List Re: Fuel Polishing System

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Clean tank...happy motoring when you need it most.  Sloppy-nasty weather to get 
into safe harbor.

From: cenelson via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 2:10 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: cenelson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel Polishing System

While YMMV, I found that my attempts at fuel polishing with my ~ 35 gallon tank 
were a waste of money (when the yard did it) or time, bother and mess when I 
did it.

Unless you clean the gunk out of the tank, no amount of new or old (but 
polished) fuel will prevent gunk from gumming up your system somewhere-pick-up 
tube in tank or some downstream filter or separator.

Getting rid of the old fuel can be an issue of course unless the yard wants it 
and will pump it out. In my case, I pumped it into ~7 5 gal jerry jugs and 
dumped them at the county fuel/oil disposal site. The jugs were about $10 each 
so I had to invest about $70 in them.

Off road diesel is about $2.50/gallon so it cost ~$90 for NEW fuel for a total 
cost of $160, not counting the fuel cost that I dumped.

Polishing may make sense when the amount of fuel is substantial as it might be 
in power boat diesels or other large diesel engines where the fuel tanks might 
hold 100's of gallons.

On a recreational sailboat engine, not so much IMHO.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom (~37 gallon tank)




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iOS

On Thursday, February 4, 2021, 11:30 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Sounds like a good plan, but I might consider plumbing it with tees and valves 
so the secondary filter could become primary in case it still clogs at a bad 
time.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:01 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello all,

A year or so back, I removed a generator that was installed in the stern locker 
because it was totally frozen up.  When I did, an old small Racor came out with 
it.  I also already have a small 12 volt fuel pump.

I am thinking about putting in a tee in the fuel line before the primary Racor, 
and plumbing in the small Racor and pump with a connection to an unused circuit 
breaker on my panel.  The output would go back to the tank.

I could use Racors as small as 3 microns, and thus filter out any water or 
contaminants using the pump when at the dock or out sailing (we have plenty of 
solar power) especially when we're out banging through waves and shaking up the 
contents of the tank.

This would serve to ensure the primary Racor doesn't clog.

We haven't had any real problems, though this year I got some water in the 
primary Racor bowl.

Are there any downsides to this?

Thanks!

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+
"Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 

 Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use

Stus-List Re: Fuel Polishing System

[cenelson via CnC-List]

While YMMV, I found that my attempts at fuel polishing with my ~ 35 gallon tank 
were a waste of money (when the yard did it) or time, bother and mess when I 
did it.
Unless you clean the gunk out of the tank, no amount of new or old (but 
polished) fuel will prevent gunk from gumming up your system somewhere—pick-up 
tube in tank or some downstream filter or separator.
Getting rid of the old fuel can be an issue of course unless the yard wants it 
and will pump it out. In my case, I pumped it into ~7 5 gal jerry jugs and 
dumped them at the county fuel/oil disposal site. The jugs were about $10 each 
so I had to invest about $70 in them.
Off road diesel is about $2.50/gallon so it cost ~$90 for NEW fuel for a total 
cost of $160, not counting the fuel cost that I dumped.
Polishing may make sense when the amount of fuel is substantial as it might be 
in power boat diesels or other large diesel engines where the fuel tanks might 
hold 100’s of gallons.
On a recreational sailboat engine, not so much IMHO.
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom (~37 gallon tank)



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On Thursday, February 4, 2021, 11:30 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Sounds like a good plan, but I might consider plumbing it with tees and valves 
so the secondary filter could become primary in case it still clogs at a bad 
time.
--Shawn wrightshawngwri...@gmail.coms/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 
35https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:01 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hello all,
A year or so back, I removed a generator that was installed in the stern locker 
because it was totally frozen up.  When I did, an old small Racor came out with 
it.  I also already have a small 12 volt fuel pump.  
I am thinking about putting in a tee in the fuel line before the primary Racor, 
and plumbing in the small Racor and pump with a connection to an unused circuit 
breaker on my panel.  The output would go back to the tank.
I could use Racors as small as 3 microns, and thus filter out any water or 
contaminants using the pump when at the dock or out sailing (we have plenty of 
solar power) especially when we're out banging through waves and shaking up the 
contents of the tank.  
This would serve to ensure the primary Racor doesn't clog.
We haven't had any real problems, though this year I got some water in the 
primary Racor bowl.  
Are there any downsides to this?
Thanks!
Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+
"Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to 
help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - 
use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu


Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Fuel Polishing System

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Sounds like a good plan, but I might consider plumbing it with tees and
valves so the secondary filter could become primary in case it still clogs
at a bad time.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:01 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> A year or so back, I removed a generator that was installed in the stern
> locker because it was totally frozen up.  When I did, an old small Racor
> came out with it.  I also already have a small 12 volt fuel pump.
>
> I am thinking about putting in a tee in the fuel line before the primary
> Racor, and plumbing in the small Racor and pump with a connection to an
> unused circuit breaker on my panel.  The output would go back to the tank.
>
> I could use Racors as small as 3 microns, and thus filter out any water or
> contaminants using the pump when at the dock or out sailing (we have plenty
> of solar power) especially when we're out banging through waves and shaking
> up the contents of the tank.
>
> This would serve to ensure the primary Racor doesn't clog.
>
> We haven't had any real problems, though this year I got some water in the
> primary Racor bowl.
>
> Are there any downsides to this?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+
> "Astralis"
> Madeira Beach, FL
> (847) 404-5092
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Fuel Polishing System

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all,

A year or so back, I removed a generator that was installed in the stern
locker because it was totally frozen up.  When I did, an old small Racor
came out with it.  I also already have a small 12 volt fuel pump.

I am thinking about putting in a tee in the fuel line before the primary
Racor, and plumbing in the small Racor and pump with a connection to an
unused circuit breaker on my panel.  The output would go back to the tank.

I could use Racors as small as 3 microns, and thus filter out any water or
contaminants using the pump when at the dock or out sailing (we have plenty
of solar power) especially when we're out banging through waves and shaking
up the contents of the tank.

This would serve to ensure the primary Racor doesn't clog.

We haven't had any real problems, though this year I got some water in the
primary Racor bowl.

Are there any downsides to this?

Thanks!

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+
"Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu