Stus-List Re: Seatalk NG / Nema 2000 device connections

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Thanks Dave

Sounds like I need a A06045/A06075 SeatalkNG to Nema 2000 cable and plug right 
into Seatalk NG backbone.  That is pretty simple

Now I just have to climb back into the cold dark boat to see what backbone 
currently looks like so I will know which of and how many of the other $49 each 
Seatalk NG bits and pieces I will need to add

From: Dave S via CnC-List 
Sent: December 30, 2021 11:10 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Seatalk NG / Nema 2000 device connections

Yes, you can buy an adaptor or make one with a field attachable connector.  
Seatalk NG is or rather was Raymarine's attempt to make the NMEA 2000 standard 
effectively proprietary.   I have a Seatalk NG backbone and a range of NMEA2000 
devices - it works seamlessly.

Dave



On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 09:17, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Likely a question for Fred Street

Currently Persistence has Raymarine i50/i60 Speed/Depth/Wind and Raymarine a65 
multifunction display/chartplotter connected via Seatalk NG network

Have just acquired Em-trak B923 AIS transponder with built in antenna splitter. 
 Wish to also connect B923 to a65.  B923 has Nema -0183 and Nema2000 
connections. A65 has SeatalkNG and Nema2000 ports.

A65 currently using SeatalkNG port to communicate with i50/i60 instruments. 
Nema2000 port unused.  Power connector has only three prongs so do not believe 
this model has the Nema 0183 wiring

How do I most easily (and cost effectively) connect the B923 to the a65 so that 
I can see AIS targets?

Can I simply purchase a SeatalkNG to Nema2000 cable and plug B923 into 
SeatalkNG backbone? 
https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028705|2028879=1108756#
That seems too simple a solution and too good to be true.

Alternatively do I need to set up a Nema 2000 backbone in addition to (and 
separately from) the existing SeatalkNG backbone and then connect to the Nema 
2000 ports on the a65 and the B923?  Will this cause issues since the a65 is 
also connected using SeatalkNG port to the Seatalk backbone?

This seems very complicated compared to the older Nema 0183 connectivity.

Thanks

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
www.hoytsailing.com

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Stus-List Re: Seatalk NG / Nema 2000 device connections

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Yes, you can buy an adaptor or make one with a field attachable connector.
Seatalk NG is or rather was Raymarine's attempt to make the NMEA 2000
standard effectively proprietary.   I have a Seatalk NG backbone and a
range of NMEA2000 devices - it works seamlessly.

Dave



On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 09:17, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Likely a question for Fred Street
>
>
>
> Currently Persistence has Raymarine i50/i60 Speed/Depth/Wind and Raymarine
> a65 multifunction display/chartplotter connected via Seatalk NG network
>
>
>
> Have just acquired Em-trak B923 AIS transponder with built in antenna
> splitter.  Wish to also connect B923 to a65.  B923 has Nema -0183 and
> Nema2000 connections. A65 has SeatalkNG and Nema2000 ports.
>
>
>
> A65 currently using SeatalkNG port to communicate with i50/i60
> instruments. Nema2000 port unused.  Power connector has only three prongs
> so do not believe this model has the Nema 0183 wiring
>
>
>
> How do I most easily (and cost effectively) connect the B923 to the a65 so
> that I can see AIS targets?
>
>
>
> Can I simply purchase a SeatalkNG to Nema2000 cable and plug B923 into
> SeatalkNG backbone?
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028705|2028879=1108756#
>
> That seems too simple a solution and too good to be true.
>
>
>
> Alternatively do I need to set up a Nema 2000 backbone in addition to (and
> separately from) the existing SeatalkNG backbone and then connect to the
> Nema 2000 ports on the a65 and the B923?  Will this cause issues since the
> a65 is also connected using SeatalkNG port to the Seatalk backbone?
>
>
>
> This seems very complicated compared to the older Nema 0183 connectivity.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Mike Hoyt
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax, NS
>
> www.hoytsailing.com
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Seatalk NG / Nema 2000 device connections

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

That's my understanding, SeaTalk NG is "NMEA 2000", but with a couple of
extra wires so SeaTalk NG can also speak to the older SeatTalk (not NG)
instruments, so just an adapter is required to convert to NMEA 2000.  Info
here:
https://panbo.com/finally-raymarine-seatalk-ng-to-nmea-2000-backbone-adapters/

Ken H.

On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 10:21, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Fred will need to jump in, but what I recall is SeaTalk NG **is NMEA 2000**
> more or less, you just need to adapt the physical connections to each other.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 9:17 AM
> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Seatalk NG / Nema 2000 device connections
>
>
>
> Likely a question for Fred Street
>
>
>
> Currently Persistence has Raymarine i50/i60 Speed/Depth/Wind and Raymarine
> a65 multifunction display/chartplotter connected via Seatalk NG network
>
>
>
> Have just acquired Em-trak B923 AIS transponder with built in antenna
> splitter.  Wish to also connect B923 to a65.  B923 has Nema -0183 and
> Nema2000 connections. A65 has SeatalkNG and Nema2000 ports.
>
>
>
> A65 currently using SeatalkNG port to communicate with i50/i60
> instruments. Nema2000 port unused.  Power connector has only three prongs
> so do not believe this model has the Nema 0183 wiring
>
>
>
> How do I most easily (and cost effectively) connect the B923 to the a65 so
> that I can see AIS targets?
>
>
>
> Can I simply purchase a SeatalkNG to Nema2000 cable and plug B923 into
> SeatalkNG backbone?
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028705|2028879=1108756#
> 
>
> That seems too simple a solution and too good to be true.
>
>
>
> Alternatively do I need to set up a Nema 2000 backbone in addition to (and
> separately from) the existing SeatalkNG backbone and then connect to the
> Nema 2000 ports on the a65 and the B923?  Will this cause issues since the
> a65 is also connected using SeatalkNG port to the Seatalk backbone?
>
>
>
> This seems very complicated compared to the older Nema 0183 connectivity.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Mike Hoyt
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax, NS
>
> www.hoytsailing.com
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Seatalk NG / Nema 2000 device connections

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Fred will need to jump in, but what I recall is SeaTalk NG *is NMEA 2000* more 
or less, you just need to adapt the physical connections to each other.
Joe
Coquina

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 9:17 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Seatalk NG / Nema 2000 device connections

Likely a question for Fred Street

Currently Persistence has Raymarine i50/i60 Speed/Depth/Wind and Raymarine a65 
multifunction display/chartplotter connected via Seatalk NG network

Have just acquired Em-trak B923 AIS transponder with built in antenna splitter. 
 Wish to also connect B923 to a65.  B923 has Nema -0183 and Nema2000 
connections. A65 has SeatalkNG and Nema2000 ports.

A65 currently using SeatalkNG port to communicate with i50/i60 instruments. 
Nema2000 port unused.  Power connector has only three prongs so do not believe 
this model has the Nema 0183 wiring

How do I most easily (and cost effectively) connect the B923 to the a65 so that 
I can see AIS targets?

Can I simply purchase a SeatalkNG to Nema2000 cable and plug B923 into 
SeatalkNG backbone? 
https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028705|2028879=1108756#
That seems too simple a solution and too good to be true.

Alternatively do I need to set up a Nema 2000 backbone in addition to (and 
separately from) the existing SeatalkNG backbone and then connect to the Nema 
2000 ports on the a65 and the B923?  Will this cause issues since the a65 is 
also connected using SeatalkNG port to the Seatalk backbone?

This seems very complicated compared to the older Nema 0183 connectivity.

Thanks

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
www.hoytsailing.com

Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Seatalk NG / Nema 2000 device connections

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Likely a question for Fred Street

Currently Persistence has Raymarine i50/i60 Speed/Depth/Wind and Raymarine a65 
multifunction display/chartplotter connected via Seatalk NG network

Have just acquired Em-trak B923 AIS transponder with built in antenna splitter. 
 Wish to also connect B923 to a65.  B923 has Nema -0183 and Nema2000 
connections. A65 has SeatalkNG and Nema2000 ports.

A65 currently using SeatalkNG port to communicate with i50/i60 instruments. 
Nema2000 port unused.  Power connector has only three prongs so do not believe 
this model has the Nema 0183 wiring

How do I most easily (and cost effectively) connect the B923 to the a65 so that 
I can see AIS targets?

Can I simply purchase a SeatalkNG to Nema2000 cable and plug B923 into 
SeatalkNG backbone? 
https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028705|2028879=1108756#
That seems too simple a solution and too good to be true.

Alternatively do I need to set up a Nema 2000 backbone in addition to (and 
separately from) the existing SeatalkNG backbone and then connect to the Nema 
2000 ports on the a65 and the B923?  Will this cause issues since the a65 is 
also connected using SeatalkNG port to the Seatalk backbone?

This seems very complicated compared to the older Nema 0183 connectivity.

Thanks

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
www.hoytsailing.com

Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu