Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[james taylor via CnC-List]

Bill, The 39 that my family had came with a modified deep keel (7' 1") and
a shortened boom (12' if I remember correctly). She went up-wind like a
witch! But the round-ups were often spectacular
James Taylor
Oriental, NC
1976 38


On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:47 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My 1973 39 came with a 13 foot boom, but the original drawings were for a
> 15' boom, which actually looked more balanced. When I replaced the boom, I
> made it 14', with a large roach. Cost me 6 Seconds, and was probably worth
> 12!
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie PA
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:32 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I thought the shorter boom was due to designers placing the mast further
>> back to get a large J measurement so 150% genoas were bigger.  More sail
>> area overall.
>>
>> Chuck S
>>
>> On 11/03/2022 2:16 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I believe that large mainsails were penalized under IOR at that time so
>> huge foretriangles became popular and also very large overlapping genoas.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I am not mistaken IMS and other rules that followed IOR were more
>> based on performance than design and allowed larger main sails to come back
>> and resulted in smaller more easily managed headsails
>>
>>
>>
>> My conspiracy theory is that the deck sweeping 170% genoas were heavily
>> influenced by insurance companies and boat yards that wanted more
>> collisions and more work! 
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Persistence
>>
>> HAlifax
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* November 3, 2022 3:04 PM
>> *To:* Stus-List 
>> *Cc:* Ronald B. Frerker 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
>>
>>
>> That 170 seemed to be popular sport back in the day.  We had one for our
>> 30-1 when I bought it and I noted that two other 30s at the lake had them
>> also.
>>
>> PHRF killed that sail; the additional penalty was deemed too much.  Crew
>> didn't mind tossing them away.  By the time we finally got it trimmed in,
>> it was time to tack again.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> Wild Cheri
>>
>> C 30-1
>>
>> STL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 3, 2022, 11:22:32 AM CDT, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> That would likely sheet to the dinghy towed behind your 34
>>
>>
>>
>> There was a story behind the use of 170 genoas back in the day but I
>> forget what it was
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Hoyt
>>
>> Persistence
>>
>>
>>
>>

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

M’y expérience is similar -27-III

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2022, at 4:27 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List  
wrote:


Sailing solo good for you.  I reckon my boat speed going to weather was only 
about 1 kt less sailig jib alone but I couldn't  sail as close to the wind 
still i had more gentle control with main alone in heavy stuff on my 35 KKII. I 
liked thst

On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 5:18 PM John Conklin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I sail solo 80% of the time on  My 37. She loves to sail with just the 130 
genny! Good up to 18-20knt. As mentioned keeps up with most with no main, and 
still very balanced !   Very little sacrifice in speed. If I could only reach 
the winches from behind the wheel!

John Conklin
S/v Halcyon



On Nov 4, 2022, at 2:00 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

My boat sails fine with just genoa too.  Only two lines to deal with and the 
cockpit is quiet and less busy.  Great for lunch or snacking.
It sails fine with just main, also, and tacking in tight quarters is easier.   
Handles like a laser.
With a J of 14'10" and an E of 15'1" they are almost the same on a 34R.

Chuck S
On 11/04/2022 10:31 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


My boat sails quite well with just the genoa. Prior to roller furling this was 
a pain, wind changes were sail changes, but now it makes life easy cruising 
Joe
Coquina
Ps – back in the day the 170s were not exotic racing sails, they were just the 
normal light air sail. They worked (and still work) just fine in the light 
stuff, the biggest issue was seeing around them. I almost t-boned a humpback 
whale that was napping on the surface out of my view on the low side, the whale 
exhaled and sank just enough for us to glide over him. He was not happy to be 
disturbed though, he swam over to ANOTHER boat and did a big jump to spray them 
LOL


From: John McCrea via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 10:01 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

The good thing about the older design is that when cruising, you can sail with 
just the genoa. I drive some friends crazy with their modern euro boats that 
cannot sail without the main up. I am pushing 7 knots, towing a dinghy with a 
135 genoa in a 15 knot breeze and they can not keep up under full sail. Most 
modern boats today fall into that category.

John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1
Mystic, CT

From: Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:34 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: wolf...@erie.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

I don’t think that’s correct.  My boom is very small compared to the size of 
the boat, and my mast appears to be placed a bit forward of normal.  I assume 
the 1975 design was IOR driven.

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 4:33 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>>; CHARLES 
SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

I thought the shorter boom was due to designers placing the mast further back 
to get a large J measurement so 150% genoas were bigger.  More sail area 
overall.

Chuck S

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Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

One of the things I loved about my 40 (and my current boat) was the fact that 
she was so weatherly and easily-driven. Sailing back to Newport from Cuttyhunk 
I would often be able to sail when all the Benehuntacats were motoring, or if 
they sailed they would slowly fade off to leeward and end up motoring while I 
sailed. 
And yes, I often took Peregrine (and my current boat) out for a sail and a beer 
with just the #3 jib set.
Andy
Currently singlehanding aboard Masquerade south of Atlantic City sailing at 7.5 
knots with 14 apparent at 50 degrees and Santana playing loud but tasteful. 
Heaven!

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> 
> 
>  
> The good thing about the older design is that when cruising, you can sail 
> with just the genoa. I drive some friends crazy with their modern euro boats 
> that cannot sail without the main up. I am pushing 7 knots, towing a dinghy 
> with a 135 genoa in a 15 knot breeze and they can not keep up under full 
> sail. Most modern boats today fall into that category.
> 
> 

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Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[John Read via CnC-List]

How true how true – ain’t it wonderful 

 

John Read

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT

 

From: John McCrea via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 10:01 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

 

The good thing about the older design is that when cruising, you can sail with 
just the genoa. I drive some friends crazy with their modern euro boats that 
cannot sail without the main up. I am pushing 7 knots, towing a dinghy with a 
135 genoa in a 15 knot breeze and they can not keep up under full sail. Most 
modern boats today fall into that category. 

 

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 36-1 

Mystic, CT

 

From: Matt Wolford via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:34 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: wolf...@erie.net  
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

 

I don’t think that’s correct.  My boom is very small compared to the size of 
the boat, and my mast appears to be placed a bit forward of normal.  I assume 
the 1975 design was IOR driven.

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 4:33 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >; 
CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

 

I thought the shorter boom was due to designers placing the mast further back 
to get a large J measurement so 150% genoas were bigger.  More sail area 
overall. 

 

Chuck S

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Sailing solo good for you.  I reckon my boat speed going to weather was
only about 1 kt less sailig jib alone but I couldn't  sail as close to the
wind still i had more gentle control with main alone in heavy stuff on my
35 KKII. I liked thst

On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 5:18 PM John Conklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I sail solo 80% of the time on  My 37. She loves to sail with just the 130
> genny! Good up to 18-20knt. As mentioned keeps up with most with no main,
> and still very balanced !   Very little sacrifice in speed. If I could only
> reach the winches from behind the wheel!
>
> John Conklin
> S/v Halcyon
>
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2022, at 2:00 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My boat sails fine with just genoa too.  Only two lines to deal with and
> the cockpit is quiet and less busy.  Great for lunch or snacking.
> It sails fine with just main, also, and tacking in tight quarters is
> easier.   Handles like a laser.
> With a J of 14'10" and an E of 15'1" they are almost the same on a 34R.
>
> Chuck S
>
> On 11/04/2022 10:31 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> My boat sails quite well with just the genoa. Prior to roller furling this
> was a pain, wind changes were sail changes, but now it makes life easy
> cruising 
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> Ps – back in the day the 170s were not exotic racing sails, they were just
> the normal light air sail. They worked (and still work) just fine in the
> light stuff, the biggest issue was seeing around them. I almost t-boned a
> humpback whale that was napping on the surface out of my view on the low
> side, the whale exhaled and sank just enough for us to glide over him. He
> was not happy to be disturbed though, he swam over to ANOTHER boat and did
> a big jump to spray them LOL
>
>
>
> *From:* John McCrea via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 3, 2022 10:01 PM
> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* johnmcc...@comcast.net
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
>
>
> The good thing about the older design is that when cruising, you can sail
> with just the genoa. I drive some friends crazy with their modern euro
> boats that cannot sail without the main up. I am pushing 7 knots, towing a
> dinghy with a 135 genoa in a 15 knot breeze and they can not keep up under
> full sail. Most modern boats today fall into that category.
>
>
> John McCrea
>
> Talisman
>
> 1979 36-1
>
> Mystic, CT
>
>
> *From:* Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:34 PM
> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* wolf...@erie.net
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
>
>
> I don’t think that’s correct.  My boom is very small compared to the size
> of the boat, and my mast appears to be placed a bit forward of normal.  I
> assume the 1975 design was IOR driven.
>
>
> *From:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 3, 2022 4:33 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER <
> cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
>
>
> I thought the shorter boom was due to designers placing the mast further
> back to get a large J measurement so 150% genoas were bigger.  More sail
> area overall.
>
>
> Chuck S
>
>
> --
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[John Conklin via CnC-List]

I sail solo 80% of the time on  My 37. She loves to sail with just the 130 
genny! Good up to 18-20knt. As mentioned keeps up with most with no main, and 
still very balanced !   Very little sacrifice in speed. If I could only reach 
the winches from behind the wheel!

John Conklin
S/v Halcyon


On Nov 4, 2022, at 2:00 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

My boat sails fine with just genoa too.  Only two lines to deal with and the 
cockpit is quiet and less busy.  Great for lunch or snacking.
It sails fine with just main, also, and tacking in tight quarters is easier.   
Handles like a laser.
With a J of 14'10" and an E of 15'1" they are almost the same on a 34R.

Chuck S
On 11/04/2022 10:31 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


My boat sails quite well with just the genoa. Prior to roller furling this was 
a pain, wind changes were sail changes, but now it makes life easy cruising 
Joe
Coquina
Ps – back in the day the 170s were not exotic racing sails, they were just the 
normal light air sail. They worked (and still work) just fine in the light 
stuff, the biggest issue was seeing around them. I almost t-boned a humpback 
whale that was napping on the surface out of my view on the low side, the whale 
exhaled and sank just enough for us to glide over him. He was not happy to be 
disturbed though, he swam over to ANOTHER boat and did a big jump to spray them 
LOL


From: John McCrea via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 10:01 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

The good thing about the older design is that when cruising, you can sail with 
just the genoa. I drive some friends crazy with their modern euro boats that 
cannot sail without the main up. I am pushing 7 knots, towing a dinghy with a 
135 genoa in a 15 knot breeze and they can not keep up under full sail. Most 
modern boats today fall into that category.

John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1
Mystic, CT

From: Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:34 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: wolf...@erie.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

I don’t think that’s correct.  My boom is very small compared to the size of 
the boat, and my mast appears to be placed a bit forward of normal.  I assume 
the 1975 design was IOR driven.

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 4:33 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>>; CHARLES 
SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

I thought the shorter boom was due to designers placing the mast further back 
to get a large J measurement so 150% genoas were bigger.  More sail area 
overall.

Chuck S

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

That's nice. I know what to mean about tacking main only in heavy air.
Makes a bad day enjoyable

On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 3:00 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My boat sails fine with just genoa too.  Only two lines to deal with and
> the cockpit is quiet and less busy.  Great for lunch or snacking.
> It sails fine with just main, also, and tacking in tight quarters is
> easier.   Handles like a laser.
> With a J of 14'10" and an E of 15'1" they are almost the same on a 34R.
>
> Chuck S
>
> On 11/04/2022 10:31 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> My boat sails quite well with just the genoa. Prior to roller furling this
> was a pain, wind changes were sail changes, but now it makes life easy
> cruising 
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> Ps – back in the day the 170s were not exotic racing sails, they were just
> the normal light air sail. They worked (and still work) just fine in the
> light stuff, the biggest issue was seeing around them. I almost t-boned a
> humpback whale that was napping on the surface out of my view on the low
> side, the whale exhaled and sank just enough for us to glide over him. He
> was not happy to be disturbed though, he swam over to ANOTHER boat and did
> a big jump to spray them LOL
>
>
>
> *From:* John McCrea via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 3, 2022 10:01 PM
> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* johnmcc...@comcast.net
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
>
>
> The good thing about the older design is that when cruising, you can sail
> with just the genoa. I drive some friends crazy with their modern euro
> boats that cannot sail without the main up. I am pushing 7 knots, towing a
> dinghy with a 135 genoa in a 15 knot breeze and they can not keep up under
> full sail. Most modern boats today fall into that category.
>
>
>
> John McCrea
>
> Talisman
>
> 1979 36-1
>
> Mystic, CT
>
>
>
> *From:* Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:34 PM
> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* wolf...@erie.net
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
>
>
> I don’t think that’s correct.  My boom is very small compared to the size
> of the boat, and my mast appears to be placed a bit forward of normal.  I
> assume the 1975 design was IOR driven.
>
>
> *From:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 3, 2022 4:33 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER <
> cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
>
>
> I thought the shorter boom was due to designers placing the mast further
> back to get a large J measurement so 150% genoas were bigger.  More sail
> area overall.
>
>
>
> Chuck S
>
> --
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

My boat sails fine with just genoa too.  Only two lines to deal with and the 
cockpit is quiet and less busy.  Great for lunch or snacking.
It sails fine with just main, also, and tacking in tight quarters is easier.   
Handles like a laser.
With a J of 14'10" and an E of 15'1" they are almost the same on a 34R.

Chuck S

> On 11/04/2022 10:31 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> My boat sails quite well with just the genoa. Prior to roller furling 
> this was a pain, wind changes were sail changes, but now it makes life easy 
> cruising 
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
> Ps – back in the day the 170s were not exotic racing sails, they were 
> just the normal light air sail. They worked (and still work) just fine in the 
> light stuff, the biggest issue was seeing around them. I almost t-boned a 
> humpback whale that was napping on the surface out of my view on the low 
> side, the whale exhaled and sank just enough for us to glide over him. He was 
> not happy to be disturbed though, he swam over to ANOTHER boat and did a big 
> jump to spray them LOL
> 
> 
> 
> From: John McCrea via CnC-List 
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 10:01 PM
> To: 'Stus-List' 
> Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
> 
> 
> The good thing about the older design is that when cruising, you can sail 
> with just the genoa. I drive some friends crazy with their modern euro boats 
> that cannot sail without the main up. I am pushing 7 knots, towing a dinghy 
> with a 135 genoa in a 15 knot breeze and they can not keep up under full 
> sail. Most modern boats today fall into that category.
> 
>  
> 
> John McCrea
> 
> Talisman
> 
> 1979 36-1
> 
> Mystic, CT
> 
>  
> 
> From: Matt Wolford via CnC-List  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:34 PM
> To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> Cc: wolf...@erie.net mailto:wolf...@erie.net
> Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
> 
> 
> I don’t think that’s correct.  My boom is very small compared to the size 
> of the boat, and my mast appears to be placed a bit forward of normal.  I 
> assume the 1975 design was IOR driven.
> 
> 
> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 4:33 PM
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com >; 
> CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net >
> Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%
> 
> 
> I thought the shorter boom was due to designers placing the mast further 
> back to get a large J measurement so 150% genoas were bigger.  More sail area 
> overall.
> 
>  
> 
> Chuck S
> 

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[schiller via CnC-List]

Our 1970 Redwing 35 (C 35-1) came with a boat load of sails.  It was a 
campaign boat for the Chi-Mac, sailing under the name Red Pepper.  We 
just took a Reacher, Lapper, Storm Jib, #1 and #3 in to Sea Bags of 
Maine.  We are getting custom bags made from the #1 and #3 with the sail 
numbers.  The rest we just traded for stock bags.  Next up will be a 
staysail and a banana staysail.  I still have more sails tucked away in 
the rafters and a 3/4 oz Spinnaker and a 1.5 oz Spanker hanging.  I gave 
the 1/2 Spinnaker to a lister that I raced with (C 36) and I am 
keeping the 1/2 oz drifter.  We still break out the Drifter on light 
wind days.  Works well with our C 35-3.


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan


On 11/4/2022 10:31 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:


My boat sails quite well with just the genoa. Prior to roller furling 
this was a pain, wind changes were sail changes, but now it makes life 
easy cruising 


Joe

Coquina

Ps – back in the day the 170s were not exotic racing sails, they were 
just the normal light air sail. They worked (and still work) just fine 
in the light stuff, the biggest issue was seeing around them. I almost 
t-boned a humpback whale that was napping on the surface out of my 
view on the low side, the whale exhaled and sank just enough for us to 
glide over him. He was not happy to be disturbed though, he swam over 
to ANOTHER boat and did a big jump to spray them LOL

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

My boat sails quite well with just the genoa. Prior to roller furling this was 
a pain, wind changes were sail changes, but now it makes life easy cruising 
Joe
Coquina
Ps – back in the day the 170s were not exotic racing sails, they were just the 
normal light air sail. They worked (and still work) just fine in the light 
stuff, the biggest issue was seeing around them. I almost t-boned a humpback 
whale that was napping on the surface out of my view on the low side, the whale 
exhaled and sank just enough for us to glide over him. He was not happy to be 
disturbed though, he swam over to ANOTHER boat and did a big jump to spray them 
LOL


From: John McCrea via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 10:01 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

The good thing about the older design is that when cruising, you can sail with 
just the genoa. I drive some friends crazy with their modern euro boats that 
cannot sail without the main up. I am pushing 7 knots, towing a dinghy with a 
135 genoa in a 15 knot breeze and they can not keep up under full sail. Most 
modern boats today fall into that category.

John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1
Mystic, CT

From: Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
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Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:34 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

I don’t think that’s correct.  My boom is very small compared to the size of 
the boat, and my mast appears to be placed a bit forward of normal.  I assume 
the 1975 design was IOR driven.

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
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Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 4:33 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

I thought the shorter boom was due to designers placing the mast further back 
to get a large J measurement so 150% genoas were bigger.  More sail area 
overall.

Chuck S