Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
North Sails used to make a jib sock to put over a roller furled jib. I’m curious if the lofts still offer it. I know the one in Annapolis used to make them. Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic From: Bob Mann via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 9:55 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Bob Mann Subject: Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I For about $700 I had a jib sock made. I use it rather than having a sacrificial added to every sail. Takes 10 minutes longer to head out and to pack up at the dock. Bob On 03/01/2023 9:23 AM Steve Mallett via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: For my 32 jib, replacing the dacron UV strip was $550 plus tax CDN in 2022. At local North Sails rep. Steve Mallett Dartmouth, NS C&C32 Second Lady On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 9:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List, mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Don, You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't find a solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun cover (and I wanted just a Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Painting a jib
Hey Joe, The test/review in Practical Sailor was very well done, and a smart way to add UV protection to an old sail. I'm convinced. https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/the-case-of-the-painted-jib C > On 03/01/2023 11:24 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > That stuff is nasty – I would not put that on a sail. > > > > Joe Della Barba > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
Somebody's got to be our Guinea Pig. Might as well be Chuck. We'll all be waiting for your report, Chuck. Bill On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 11:25 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > That stuff is nasty – I would not put that on a sail. > > > > > > *Joe Della Barba* > > > > > > > > *From:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:04 AM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I > > > > Inflatable boat paint? Wonder how long paint lasts on a sail? > > > > C > > On 03/01/2023 8:55 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > > > I thought we resolved this problem last year. Didn't the general consensus > come out that the best solution is using inflatable boat paint to paint the > UV protection on? > > Bill Coleman > > Entrada, Erie PA > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 08:46 Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Don, > > > > You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. > > > > I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't find a > solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun cover (and > I wanted just a Dacron sacrificial one; nothing fancy) was around 60%-80% > of the cost of a new sail. > > > > My boat is smaller (27'), so the sails are smaller and cheaper. > > > > I ended up ordering a new furling sail. The original lasted 10 years. > Actually, it is still fine, except the sun cover is UV damaged. > > > > Marek > > 1994 C270 Legato > > Ottawa On > > > > > > > > Sent from my Android-based can on a string > > > > > > Original message > > From: Don Kern via CnC-List > > Date: 2023-02-28 17:31 (GMT-05:00) > > To: Glen Eddie via CnC-List > > Cc: Don Kern > > Subject: Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I > > > > Glen, > > My C&C 35 Mk2 carries for racing #1 (155% '22), #2 (137% '07), #2 reacher > (129% '95), #3 (110% '19), and #4 (85% '18). I usually push my sails for > 20 yrs - (the older #1 '02 vintage still decent, but not good enuf for > racing. For cruising have a furling #2 (137% '98) which I just got back > from North with a replaced sun cover (no foam), because the sun cover's > original stitching had failed. The old reacher is carried on board only > for long distance racing on Buzzard's Bay, RI Sound and Long Island Sound. > The #2 furling, and #4 were purchased as second-hand sails. Most racing > is done with the #1 and #2, with the #3 and #4 used in "remind me that > this is FUN!!" conditions. It is my opinion that a furling sail does not > hold its aerodynamic shape when you start rolling it in. When racing I put > reefs in the main before I downsize the genoas. JMHO > > Don Kern > C&C35 Mk2, *Fireball* > Bristol, RI > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
That stuff is nasty – I would not put that on a sail. Joe Della Barba From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:04 AM To: Stus-List Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I Inflatable boat paint? Wonder how long paint lasts on a sail? C On 03/01/2023 8:55 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I thought we resolved this problem last year. Didn't the general consensus come out that the best solution is using inflatable boat paint to paint the UV protection on? Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie PA On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 08:46 Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Don, You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't find a solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun cover (and I wanted just a Dacron sacrificial one; nothing fancy) was around 60%-80% of the cost of a new sail. My boat is smaller (27'), so the sails are smaller and cheaper. I ended up ordering a new furling sail. The original lasted 10 years. Actually, it is still fine, except the sun cover is UV damaged. Marek 1994 C270 Legato Ottawa On Sent from my Android-based can on a string Original message From: Don Kern via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Date: 2023-02-28 17:31 (GMT-05:00) To: Glen Eddie via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Don Kern mailto:don-k...@cox.net>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I Glen, My C&C 35 Mk2 carries for racing #1 (155% '22), #2 (137% '07), #2 reacher (129% '95), #3 (110% '19), and #4 (85% '18). I usually push my sails for 20 yrs - (the older #1 '02 vintage still decent, but not good enuf for racing. For cruising have a furling #2 (137% '98) which I just got back from North with a replaced sun cover (no foam), because the sun cover's original stitching had failed. The old reacher is carried on board only for long distance racing on Buzzard's Bay, RI Sound and Long Island Sound. The #2 furling, and #4 were purchased as second-hand sails. Most racing is done with the #1 and #2, with the #3 and #4 used in "remind me that this is FUN!!" conditions. It is my opinion that a furling sail does not hold its aerodynamic shape when you start rolling it in. When racing I put reefs in the main before I downsize the genoas. JMHO Don Kern C&C35 Mk2, Fireball Bristol, RI Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
+1 for the jib sock which can be used on all headsails. Mine was ~$700 (from ATN) but I had it 'customized' with the C&C red and white stripes x 2 against the blue Sunbrella fabric background so that it matches the C&C stripes and initials on the mainsail cover*. A bit more trouble to douse and raise for sure so if I am just out with family, etc. (not racing), I just uncover and raise the main sail. Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C 36 XK/kcb -Original Message- From: Bob Mann via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: Bob Mann Sent: Wed, Mar 1, 2023 9:55 am Subject: Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I For about $700 I had a jib sock made. I use it rather than having a sacrificial added to every sail. Takes 10 minutes longer to head out and to pack up at the dock. Bob On 03/01/2023 9:23 AM Steve Mallett via CnC-List wrote: For my 32 jib, replacing the dacron UV strip was $550 plus tax CDN in 2022. At local North Sails rep. Steve Mallett Dartmouth, NS C&C32 Second Lady On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 9:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List, wrote: Don, You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't find a solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun cover (and I wanted just a Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
Hi Marek, What size boat? What percent headsail? Curious as I am presently getting prices for repairs done on old sails vs a getting a new sail. Just spent $700 to repair a 140% that we use the most. It's a string sail and had several cracks through the plastic material but all the strings are intact, and it needed the three telltale windows replaced, a new sail would cost $5200 to $7500. The sailmaker went personally and measured my boat without me having to meet him. Hopefully saved the sail for a few more seasons. Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis > On 03/01/2023 10:00 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > In Ottawa, possibly because there are no local sail lofts, the cost was > around $700 - $800 or higher. I got a new sail for just over $1000 ($850 USD). > > > > Marek > > > > From: Steve Mallett via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 9:23 AM > To: Stus-List > Cc: Steve Mallett > Subject: Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I > > > For my 32 jib, replacing the dacron UV strip was $550 plus tax CDN in > 2022. At local North Sails rep. > > > Steve Mallett > > Dartmouth, NS > > C&C32 Second Lady > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 9:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List, > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > > > Don, > > > > > > You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. > > > > > > I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't > > find a solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun > > cover (and I wanted just a > > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album > > site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
Inflatable boat paint? Wonder how long paint lasts on a sail? C > On 03/01/2023 8:55 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List > wrote: > > > I thought we resolved this problem last year. Didn't the general > consensus come out that the best solution is using inflatable boat paint to > paint the UV protection on? > > Bill Coleman > Entrada, Erie PA > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 08:46 Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > Don, > > > > You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. > > > > I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't > > find a solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun > > cover (and I wanted just a Dacron sacrificial one; nothing fancy) was > > around 60%-80% of the cost of a new sail. > > > > My boat is smaller (27'), so the sails are smaller and cheaper. > > > > I ended up ordering a new furling sail. The original lasted 10 > > years. Actually, it is still fine, except the sun cover is UV damaged. > > > > Marek > > 1994 C270 Legato > > Ottawa On > > > > > > > > Sent from my Android-based can on a string > > > > > > Original message > > From: Don Kern via CnC-List > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > Date: 2023-02-28 17:31 (GMT-05:00) > > To: Glen Eddie via CnC-List > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > Cc: Don Kern mailto:don-k...@cox.net > > > Subject: Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I > > > > Glen, > > > > My C&C 35 Mk2 carries for racing #1 (155% '22), #2 (137% '07), #2 > > reacher (129% '95), #3 (110% '19), and #4 (85% '18). I usually push my > > sails for 20 yrs - (the older #1 '02 vintage still decent, but not good > > enuf for racing. For cruising have a furling #2 (137% '98) which I just > > got back from North with a replaced sun cover (no foam), because the sun > > cover's original stitching had failed. The old reacher is carried on board > > only for long distance racing on Buzzard's Bay, RI Sound and Long Island > > Sound. The #2 furling, and #4 were purchased as second-hand sails. Most > > racing is done with the #1 and #2, with the #3 and #4 used in "remind me > > that this is FUN!!" conditions. It is my opinion that a furling sail does > > not hold its aerodynamic shape when you start rolling it in. When racing I > > put reefs in the main before I downsize the genoas. JMHO > > > > Don Kern > > C&C35 Mk2, Fireball > > Bristol, RI > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album > > site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > Thanks for your help. > > Stu > > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album > > site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
In Ottawa, possibly because there are no local sail lofts, the cost was around $700 - $800 or higher. I got a new sail for just over $1000 ($850 USD). Marek From: Steve Mallett via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 9:23 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Steve Mallett Subject: Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I For my 32 jib, replacing the dacron UV strip was $550 plus tax CDN in 2022. At local North Sails rep. Steve Mallett Dartmouth, NS C&C32 Second Lady On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 9:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List, mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Don, You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't find a solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun cover (and I wanted just a Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
For about $700 I had a jib sock made. I use it rather than having a sacrificial added to every sail. Takes 10 minutes longer to head out and to pack up at the dock. Bob > On 03/01/2023 9:23 AM Steve Mallett via CnC-List > wrote: > > > For my 32 jib, replacing the dacron UV strip was $550 plus tax CDN in > 2022. At local North Sails rep. > > Steve Mallett > Dartmouth, NS > C&C32 Second Lady > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 9:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List, > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > Don, > > > > You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. > > > > I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't > > find a solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun > > cover (and I wanted just a > > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album > > site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
For my 32 jib, replacing the dacron UV strip was $550 plus tax CDN in 2022. At local North Sails rep. Steve Mallett Dartmouth, NS C&C32 Second Lady On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 9:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List, < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Don, > > You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. > > I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't find a > solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun cover (and > I wanted just a > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
I thought we resolved this problem last year. Didn't the general consensus come out that the best solution is using inflatable boat paint to paint the UV protection on? Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie PA On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 08:46 Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Don, > > You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. > > I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't find a > solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun cover (and > I wanted just a Dacron sacrificial one; nothing fancy) was around 60%-80% > of the cost of a new sail. > > My boat is smaller (27'), so the sails are smaller and cheaper. > > I ended up ordering a new furling sail. The original lasted 10 years. > Actually, it is still fine, except the sun cover is UV damaged. > > Marek > 1994 C270 Legato > Ottawa On > > > > Sent from my Android-based can on a string > > > Original message > From: Don Kern via CnC-List > Date: 2023-02-28 17:31 (GMT-05:00) > To: Glen Eddie via CnC-List > Cc: Don Kern > Subject: Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I > > Glen, > > My C&C 35 Mk2 carries for racing #1 (155% '22), #2 (137% '07), #2 reacher > (129% '95), #3 (110% '19), and #4 (85% '18). I usually push my sails for > 20 yrs - (the older #1 '02 vintage still decent, but not good enuf for > racing. For cruising have a furling #2 (137% '98) which I just got back > from North with a replaced sun cover (no foam), because the sun cover's > original stitching had failed. The old reacher is carried on board only > for long distance racing on Buzzard's Bay, RI Sound and Long Island Sound. > The #2 furling, and #4 were purchased as second-hand sails. Most racing > is done with the #1 and #2, with the #3 and #4 used in "remind me that > this is FUN!!" conditions. It is my opinion that a furling sail does not > hold its aerodynamic shape when you start rolling it in. When racing I put > reefs in the main before I downsize the genoas. JMHO > > Don Kern > C&C35 Mk2, *Fireball* > Bristol, RI > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I
Don, You mentioned that you replaced the sun cover on your furling sail. I am interested at the costs, as when I tried last year, I couldn't find a solution that was cost effective. The costs of replacing the sun cover (and I wanted just a Dacron sacrificial one; nothing fancy) was around 60%-80% of the cost of a new sail. My boat is smaller (27'), so the sails are smaller and cheaper. I ended up ordering a new furling sail. The original lasted 10 years. Actually, it is still fine, except the sun cover is UV damaged. Marek 1994 C270 Legato Ottawa On Sent from my Android-based can on a string Original message From: Don Kern via CnC-List Date: 2023-02-28 17:31 (GMT-05:00) To: Glen Eddie via CnC-List Cc: Don Kern Subject: Stus-List Re: Furling Sail C&C 35 Mk I Glen, My C&C 35 Mk2 carries for racing #1 (155% '22), #2 (137% '07), #2 reacher (129% '95), #3 (110% '19), and #4 (85% '18). I usually push my sails for 20 yrs - (the older #1 '02 vintage still decent, but not good enuf for racing. For cruising have a furling #2 (137% '98) which I just got back from North with a replaced sun cover (no foam), because the sun cover's original stitching had failed. The old reacher is carried on board only for long distance racing on Buzzard's Bay, RI Sound and Long Island Sound. The #2 furling, and #4 were purchased as second-hand sails. Most racing is done with the #1 and #2, with the #3 and #4 used in "remind me that this is FUN!!" conditions. It is my opinion that a furling sail does not hold its aerodynamic shape when you start rolling it in. When racing I put reefs in the main before I downsize the genoas. JMHO Don Kern C&C35 Mk2, Fireball Bristol, RI Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
