Stus-List Re: Universal Westerbeke Tachometer/Hour Meter

2023-04-24 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
I'd go with the Datcon, and if you want to be sure of the RPM, buy or
borrow an optical tach to calibrate it. Handheld optical tachs are about
$30 online.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
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On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 6:08 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Well, gosh darn.  Touche's engine hour meter died (or went to sleep).
> Engine is Universal 25XPB.  Boat is in yard 4 hours away so I'm just
> probing around the web for options.
>
> First, it may be repairable.  Might just be a poor connection.  I probably
> won't tackle it until I get the boat back to its home slip in Louisiana
> in a couple weeks.  An hour meter isn't that critical.  However, on the
> chance that it isn't repairable, I have two options.
>
> First, install a stand alone waterproof hour meter.  Cost $20-40 depending
> on selection and another hole in the bulkhead.
>
> Second, replace the tachometer/hour meter.  Did that once already.  Here's
> where it gets interesting.  It's Westerbeke part 011917.  Typical online
> price is about $340 US.
>
>
> https://westerbeke.com/Product/METER/011917?productname=METER=54202996DAF73B1CA82D59C6
>
> So I Googled "tachometer/hour meter" and probed around.  Guess what?  A
> Datcon 71725-00 tach/hour meter for about* 1/3* of Westerbeke's price.
> Looks identical.  Spec says data source is alternator which I believe the
> 25XPB is.  Here's the tach:
>
>
> https://vehiclecontrols.com/shopping/shop700/products1/453057044-71725-00-datcon-tachometer-with-hourmeter-4000rpm/
>
> Very interesting.  Could this be the same tach?  3 3/8" hole.  Next time
> I'm on the boat, I'll verify the diameter and alternator data sensor.  If I
> can't repair it, I'll replace it with the Datcon.  Anybody know why I
> shouldn't?
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Universal Westerbeke Tachometer/Hour Meter

2023-04-24 Thread Tom Sutton via CnC-List
Sounds familiar, I had to replace the fuel pump on my Westerbeke and the shop 
offered to get a Westerbeke for somewhat over $300 Cdn or they could supply the 
identical pump from the same manufacturer for about 1/3 the cost.  The only 
difference was it didn’t have the Westerbeke name and isn’t painted red.  I 
went for the $200+ saving and haven’t looked back.

YMMV,
Tom S

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From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: April 23, 2023 9:07 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Stus-List Universal Westerbeke Tachometer/Hour Meter

Well, gosh darn.  Touche's engine hour meter died (or went to sleep).  Engine 
is Universal 25XPB.  Boat is in yard 4 hours away so I'm just probing around 
the web for options.

First, it may be repairable.  Might just be a poor connection.  I probably 
won't tackle it until I get the boat back to its home slip in Louisiana in a 
couple weeks.  An hour meter isn't that critical.  However, on the chance that 
it isn't repairable, I have two options.  

First, install a stand alone waterproof hour meter.  Cost $20-40 depending on 
selection and another hole in the bulkhead.

Second, replace the tachometer/hour meter.  Did that once already.  Here's 
where it gets interesting.  It's Westerbeke part 011917.  Typical online price 
is about $340 US.

https://westerbeke.com/Product/METER/011917?productname=METER=54202996DAF73B1CA82D59C6

So I Googled "tachometer/hour meter" and probed around.  Guess what?  A Datcon 
71725-00 tach/hour meter for about 1/3 of Westerbeke's price.  Looks identical. 
 Spec says data source is alternator which I believe the 25XPB is.  Here's the 
tach:

https://vehiclecontrols.com/shopping/shop700/products1/453057044-71725-00-datcon-tachometer-with-hourmeter-4000rpm/

Very interesting.  Could this be the same tach?  3 3/8" hole.  Next time I'm on 
the boat, I'll verify the diameter and alternator data sensor.  If I can't 
repair it, I'll replace it with the Datcon.  Anybody know why I shouldn't?


-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List Re: Now Repairing Awlcraft

2023-04-24 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
 Charlie, thanks, great story...and a lesson to remember!
 
Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596

Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 
 
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From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
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Sent: Sat, Apr 22, 2023 4:29 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now Repairing Awlcraft

I strongly 'second' Dennis' views on the quality of the painter.
My boat came from the factory with a painted hull (1995) and it was a terrific 
looking deep Navy Flag blue. Over the years (about 15) it had faded and needed 
redone so I bit the bullet and she went into the paint shed (without mast!). 
Since the paint (Awlgrip I think) had too be sprayed, it was above my pay grade 
to attempt it myself. The yard was then managed by a former boat painter who 
had lots of experience and the result, a slightly lighter blue (Aristo Blue?) 
was again dazzling.
Another 5-6 years go by and with only 2 on board, I managed to get it crosswise 
to a strong tidal current in Beaufort, NC trying to get into a slip. Instead of 
waiting for the current to slow, I stubbornly went ahead--big mistake!  As you 
can imagine, my docking didn't go well and I ended up pinned against a piling 
on the port side while we desperately tried to get a line to the starboard side 
to pull us off. Rescued by a nice lady who knew about the strong tidal 
currents, she tied a line for us to starboard and we managed to winch the boat 
off the port side piling. 
Needless to say, my port side paint job was now in shambles!
Back to the same yard that had painted her previously for the repair. The same 
yard manager prepared about a ~ 8 ft x 3 ft rectangular section enclosing the 
damage (nothing structural) and did his magic. Before it went back in the 
water, I inspected the hull while she was in the lift and I could not tell 
where the damage had been or even where the edges of the rectangular section 
were. 
He told me then that he painting goal was (like the commercial for the 
ServicePro clean-up service after a fire or water damage to a structure or 
home)  to "...make it look like it never even happened..." and he certainly 
succeeded.
My chances of doing it that well were somewhere between exceeding slim and none 
(and more likely negative) and reminded me of the adage that just because you 
CAN DIY doesn't mean that you SHOULD DIY.
Unfortunately the yard manager/painter retired (I kidded him that I paid for 
his home in the islands!) so if I ever need my hull painted, I have to find 
someone else. 
YMMV and good luck finding a good painter--hopefully before you tell him to go 
ahead!
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C 36 XLkcb



 
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