Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: winter storage

2023-10-30 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Is there any such thing as a C&C 35 MK I being parted out? There are a few 
things I could use. Not necessarily a mast, but if anyone had one nearby I 
would stick it in the yard for a spare.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina



From: Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 1:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Delamirande 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: winter storage

If someone wants a mast there one on Kijiji for sale
And there a salvage yard that cut them up because there no room for to store 
them
He get lots of cnc

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 6:45 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
As Matt mentioned, after a couple boats blew over at our club, they came out 
with an edict that any boats with masts up will have to be on a cradle.  That 
is not to say that a boat can't blow over in a cradle, there are tons of poorly 
designed cradles, or poorly maintained cradles around.  I have made several 
over the years, and just this fall got roped into revamping a Catalina 36 
cradle. He gave me the original drawings for the cradle, I couldn't believe it 
was an original design by Catalina - the whole thing, even the longitudinal 
stringers were only 4" channel, which, after being picked up by the ends, which 
is how they move cradles here, it sagged down about 6". So it got two new 8" I 
beams longitudinally and two crosswise under the keel. I would have made it 
more than 8 feet wide, but the dockmaster told me it couldn't be more than 
that. The point here, I guess is to get a good cradle.  There are a few down at 
our club that are an amazing design. They are made by Viking Trailers,  in 
Butler, PA,  Unfortunately , they don't  have any pictures on their site of 
them, if anyone is interested I can send a picture. There are four uprights per 
side, all adjustable in, out, and up, and also have fold down flaps to 
stabilize it up to 12' wide.  Really well thought out.

Bill Coleman
Erie PA Entrada

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:19 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Re mast up.  A friend stored his C&C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
winter storm.  He now has no mast.

With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from 
blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three 
areas.  The boat was on a cradle.

Food for thought

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter?

Bob Mann
Mystic
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: winter storage

2023-10-30 Thread Motion Designs Limited via CnC-List 
Where are you ?JKCwww.candcyachts.comMotion Designs Limited647 990 7752On Oct 30, 2023, at 11:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  wrote:







Is there any such thing as a C&C 35 MK I being parted out? There are a few things I could use. Not necessarily a mast, but if anyone had one nearby I would stick it in the yard for a spare.
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
 
 
 

From: Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 

Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 1:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Delamirande 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: winter storage

 

If someone wants a mast there one on Kijiji for sale 


And there a salvage yard that cut them up because there no room for to store them 


He get lots of cnc


 


On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 6:45 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List  wrote:




As Matt mentioned, after a couple boats blew over at our club, they came out with an edict that any boats with masts up will have to be on a cradle.  That is not to say that a boat can't blow over in a cradle, there are tons of poorly designed
 cradles, or poorly maintained cradles around.  I have made several over the years, and just this fall got roped into revamping a Catalina 36 cradle. He gave me the original drawings for the cradle, I couldn't believe it was an original design by Catalina -
 the whole thing, even the longitudinal stringers were only 4" channel, which, after being picked up by the ends, which is how they move cradles here, it sagged down about 6". So it got two new 8" I beams longitudinally and two crosswise under the keel. I would
 have made it more than 8 feet wide, but the dockmaster told me it couldn't be more than that. The point here, I guess is to get a good cradle.  There are a few down at our club that are an amazing design. They are made by Viking Trailers,  in Butler, PA, 
 Unfortunately , they don't  have any pictures on their site of them, if anyone is interested I can send a picture. There are four uprights per side, all adjustable in, out, and up, and also have fold down flaps to stabilize it up to 12' wide.  Really well
 thought out.


 


Bill Coleman


Erie PA Entrada


 


On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:19 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  wrote:





Re mast up.  A friend stored his C&C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a winter storm.  He now has no mast.
 
With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three areas. 
 The boat was on a cradle.
 
Food for thought
 
Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
 

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List 

Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave
 shroud tension alone or do you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍



Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who store
 their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you loosen the shrouds for the winter?



 



Bob Mann



Mystic










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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: winter storage

2023-10-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Maryland.

I would love to find some cockpit seats and refinish them vs. taking mine out 
and leaving two huge holes I need to cover.

Also would love an old rudder to redo. I don’t think mine has issues, but it is 
50 years old and probably worth a look inside at some point.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Motion Designs Limited via CnC-List  
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 11:30 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Motion Designs Limited 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: winter storage

 

Where are you ?

 

JKC

www.candcyachts.com  

Motion Designs Limited

647 990 7752





On Oct 30, 2023, at 11:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Is there any such thing as a C&C 35 MK I being parted out? There are a few 
things I could use. Not necessarily a mast, but if anyone had one nearby I 
would stick it in the yard for a spare.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

 

 

 

From: Joel Delamirande via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 1:31 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Joel Delamirande mailto:joel.delamira...@gmail.com> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: winter storage

 

If someone wants a mast there one on Kijiji for sale 

And there a salvage yard that cut them up because there no room for to store 
them 

He get lots of cnc

 

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 6:45 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

As Matt mentioned, after a couple boats blew over at our club, they came out 
with an edict that any boats with masts up will have to be on a cradle.  That 
is not to say that a boat can't blow over in a cradle, there are tons of poorly 
designed cradles, or poorly maintained cradles around.  I have made several 
over the years, and just this fall got roped into revamping a Catalina 36 
cradle. He gave me the original drawings for the cradle, I couldn't believe it 
was an original design by Catalina - the whole thing, even the longitudinal 
stringers were only 4" channel, which, after being picked up by the ends, which 
is how they move cradles here, it sagged down about 6". So it got two new 8" I 
beams longitudinally and two crosswise under the keel. I would have made it 
more than 8 feet wide, but the dockmaster told me it couldn't be more than 
that. The point here, I guess is to get a good cradle.  There are a few down at 
our club that are an amazing design. They are made by Viking Trailers,  in 
Butler, PA,  Unfortunately , they don't  have any pictures on their site of 
them, if anyone is interested I can send a picture. There are four uprights per 
side, all adjustable in, out, and up, and also have fold down flaps to 
stabilize it up to 12' wide.  Really well thought out.

 

Bill Coleman

Erie PA Entrada

 

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:19 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Re mast up.  A friend stored his C&C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
winter storm.  He now has no mast.

 

With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from 
blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three 
areas.  The boat was on a cradle.

 

Food for thought

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS

 

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? 

  

Bob Mann 

Mystic 

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