Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I'm afraid that's not the Droid you're looking for -
On the bright side, this is happening over the winter, so you're going to
have plenty of time to figure this out.
There should be plenty of machine shops in your area, I would suggest you
take that nut around and get a price for it, assuming the threads on the
shaft are okay. Just A tap to cut the threads on a new nut is 180 bucks- a
good machine shop can cut those in with a cutter they have.
A friend who also crewed with us bought a 37 like yours. One day he backed
out of his slip and it wouldn't go into forward, and he ended up on the rip
rap. His insurance bought him a new rudder, I think from South Shore. He
offered me his Bent one, and oddly I didn't take it, or I would still have
it like everything else and I I could tell you what you need.

Bill Coleman

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 15:05 Chris Riedinger via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/shaft-collars/
>
> They're called shaft collars
>
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 10:03 AM Dave S via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Or drill and tap the same collar, rotating the holes?
>> Or re-drill  the same holes and tap and use a larger screw?
>> Dave ex-33-2 windstar
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2023, at 12:56 PM, David Risch via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Richard…I am sure a competent machine shop can replicate?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Matthew Wolford via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 9, 2023 9:52 AM
>> *To:* Stus-List 
>> *Cc:* virb...@cogeco.ca; Matthew Wolford 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly
>>
>>
>>
>> I suggest starting there.  If Rob doesn’t have one, he may be able to
>> suggest an alternate source.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Barry McKee via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Yes they are.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barry McKee
>>
>>
>>
>> C 29 “Discovery II”
>>
>> Bronte, ON
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Matthew Wolford via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> ]
>> *Sent:* 9-Dec-23 8:24 AM
>> *To:* Richard Bush
>> *Cc:* Stus-List; Matthew Wolford
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly
>>
>>
>>
>> Is South Shore Yachts still in business?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Richard Bush  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi all; Bill is the winner for long distance diagnosing...; there is  a
>> chrome "collar" or "nut' which is threaded and the the top of the rudder
>> post which is also threaded; the collar is tightened down over the rudder
>> post and sits on a delrin "washer" which is about 1/8 inch thick. There are
>> two set screws in the collar to keep it tight n the rudder post.  The
>> rudder pivots on this assembly when steering the boat.
>>
>>
>>
>> In my case, these set screws apparently loosened up to allow the collar
>> to loosen which caused play in the rudder post. The result was to strip the
>> threads on the collar allowing the rudder to drop.  The fix is to get a new
>> collar, which I hope someone here can help my in identifying; there are no
>> markings or part numbers on the collar. Of course, I have lots of photos.
>>
>>
>>
>> For a quick fix, we were able to invert the collar and use the remaining
>> threads ( about 1/2" to 5/8") to hold the rudder in place. I am confident
>> that this will work until I can identify and order the new collar.
>>
>>
>>
>> So it seems I have been lucky and my situation fits under Mike Hoyt's
>> "good case" scenario rather than the whole assembly failing, which is the
>> "bad case" scenario.   I feel a lot better than I did 24 hours ago, but
>> will report back on progress.  I would have thought the C used the same
>> assembly for all of the rudders regardless of the model of the boat, but
>> maybe not...;
>>
>>
>>
>> If anyone ha any experience or suggestions in locating the "collar,
>> please send them on...Thank you to everyone!
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
>>
>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>>
>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
>>
>> (502) 584-7255
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 03:37:58 PM EST, Bill Coleman via
>> CnC-List  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought there was a nut on the top of the post. If so, it may have come
>> off and it slipped down till the quadrant hit the hull. Obviously you are
>> going to have to go down an look, and all things shall be revealed unto you
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>>
>> Erie PA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:15 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all; I am in need the collective wisdom of the group for a rudder
>> issue; my boat (1985 C 37 CB) has been sitting on a trailer since early
>> September for repairs to the hull, not rudder related; sometime in the past
>> week the rudder has dropped a full two plus inches and no one knows how
>> this happened; the hull  has been painted and the painters said they moved
>> the rudder 

Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

[Chris Riedinger via CnC-List]

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/shaft-collars/

They're called shaft collars

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 10:03 AM Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Or drill and tap the same collar, rotating the holes?
> Or re-drill  the same holes and tap and use a larger screw?
> Dave ex-33-2 windstar
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 9, 2023, at 12:56 PM, David Risch via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Richard…I am sure a competent machine shop can replicate?
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Wolford via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 9, 2023 9:52 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* virb...@cogeco.ca; Matthew Wolford 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly
>
>
>
> I suggest starting there.  If Rob doesn’t have one, he may be able to
> suggest an alternate source.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Barry McKee via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yes they are.
>
>
>
> Barry McKee
>
>
>
> C 29 “Discovery II”
>
> Bronte, ON
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Wolford via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> ]
> *Sent:* 9-Dec-23 8:24 AM
> *To:* Richard Bush
> *Cc:* Stus-List; Matthew Wolford
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly
>
>
>
> Is South Shore Yachts still in business?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Richard Bush  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi all; Bill is the winner for long distance diagnosing...; there is  a
> chrome "collar" or "nut' which is threaded and the the top of the rudder
> post which is also threaded; the collar is tightened down over the rudder
> post and sits on a delrin "washer" which is about 1/8 inch thick. There are
> two set screws in the collar to keep it tight n the rudder post.  The
> rudder pivots on this assembly when steering the boat.
>
>
>
> In my case, these set screws apparently loosened up to allow the collar to
> loosen which caused play in the rudder post. The result was to strip the
> threads on the collar allowing the rudder to drop.  The fix is to get a new
> collar, which I hope someone here can help my in identifying; there are no
> markings or part numbers on the collar. Of course, I have lots of photos.
>
>
>
> For a quick fix, we were able to invert the collar and use the remaining
> threads ( about 1/2" to 5/8") to hold the rudder in place. I am confident
> that this will work until I can identify and order the new collar.
>
>
>
> So it seems I have been lucky and my situation fits under Mike Hoyt's
> "good case" scenario rather than the whole assembly failing, which is the
> "bad case" scenario.   I feel a lot better than I did 24 hours ago, but
> will report back on progress.  I would have thought the C used the same
> assembly for all of the rudders regardless of the model of the boat, but
> maybe not...;
>
>
>
> If anyone ha any experience or suggestions in locating the "collar, please
> send them on...Thank you to everyone!
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
>
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
>
> (502) 584-7255
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 03:37:58 PM EST, Bill Coleman via
> CnC-List  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I thought there was a nut on the top of the post. If so, it may have come
> off and it slipped down till the quadrant hit the hull. Obviously you are
> going to have to go down an look, and all things shall be revealed unto you
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> Erie PA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:15 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi all; I am in need the collective wisdom of the group for a rudder
> issue; my boat (1985 C 37 CB) has been sitting on a trailer since early
> September for repairs to the hull, not rudder related; sometime in the past
> week the rudder has dropped a full two plus inches and no one knows how
> this happened; the hull  has been painted and the painters said they moved
> the rudder by moving the steering wheel and had no issues;  does anyone
> have any ideas or suggests about what could have occurred? and more
> importantly, what needs to be done to make the rudder usable?
>
>
>
>
>
> We were hoping to relaunch in the next week or so...I'll be happy to
> provide more information if anyone has questions...Thanks!
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
>
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
>
> (502) 584-7255
>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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> Stu
>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Or drill and tap the same collar, rotating the holes?Or re-drill  the same holes and tap and use a larger screw?Dave ex-33-2 windstar Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 9, 2023, at 12:56 PM, David Risch via CnC-List  wrote:







Richard…I am sure a competent machine shop can replicate?
 


From: Matthew Wolford via CnC-List 

Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 9:52 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: virb...@cogeco.ca; Matthew Wolford 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly


 
I suggest starting there.  If Rob doesn’t have one, he may be able to suggest an alternate source.

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Dec 9, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Barry McKee via CnC-List  wrote:





Yes they are.
 
Barry McKee
 
C 29 “Discovery II”
Bronte, ON
 


From: Matthew Wolford via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]

Sent: 9-Dec-23 8:24 AM
To: Richard Bush
Cc: Stus-List; Matthew Wolford
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly


 
Is South Shore Yachts still in business?

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Dec 8, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Richard Bush  wrote:







Hi all; Bill is the winner for long distance diagnosing...; there is  a chrome "collar" or "nut' which is threaded and the the top of the rudder post which is also threaded; the collar is tightened down over the rudder post and sits on
 a delrin "washer" which is about 1/8 inch thick. There are two set screws in the collar to keep it tight n the rudder post.  The rudder pivots on this assembly when steering the boat.  


 


In my case, these set screws apparently loosened up to allow the collar to loosen which caused play in the rudder post. The result was to strip the threads on the collar allowing the rudder to drop.  The fix is to get a new collar, which
 I hope someone here can help my in identifying; there are no markings or part numbers on the collar. Of course, I have lots of photos.


 


For a quick fix, we were able to invert the collar and use the remaining threads ( about 1/2" to 5/8") to hold the rudder in place. I am confident that this will work until I can identify and order the new collar.



 


So it seems I have been lucky and my situation fits under Mike Hoyt's "good case" scenario rather than the whole assembly failing, which is the "bad case" scenario.   I feel a lot better than I did 24 hours ago, but will report back on
 progress.  I would have thought the C used the same assembly for all of the rudders regardless of the model of the boat, but maybe not...;


 


If anyone ha any experience or suggestions in locating the "collar, please send them on...Thank you to everyone!



 





Richard


Richard N. Bush Law Offices


2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine


Louisville, Kentucky 40220


(502) 584-7255






 


 





On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 03:37:58 PM EST, Bill Coleman via CnC-List  wrote:



 


 






I thought there was a nut on the top of the post. If so, it may have come off and it slipped down till the quadrant hit the hull. Obviously you are going to
 have to go down an look, and all things shall be revealed unto you 


 


Bill Coleman


Erie PA

 

 



On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:15 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List  wrote:






 


Hi all; I am in need the collective wisdom of the group for a rudder issue; my boat (1985 C 37 CB) has been sitting on a trailer since early September for repairs to the hull, not rudder related; sometime in
 the past week the rudder has dropped a full two plus inches and no one knows how this happened; the hull  has been painted and the painters said they moved the rudder by moving the steering wheel and had no issues;  does anyone have any ideas or suggests about
 what could have occurred? and more importantly, what needs to be done to make the rudder usable? 


 


 


We were hoping to relaunch in the next week or so...I'll be happy to provide more information if anyone has questions...Thanks! 






 


Richard


1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River...


 


 


Richard N. Bush Law Offices


2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine


Louisville, Kentucky 40220


(502) 584-7255







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Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Richard…I am sure a competent machine shop can replicate?

From: Matthew Wolford via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 9:52 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: virb...@cogeco.ca; Matthew Wolford 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

I suggest starting there.  If Rob doesn’t have one, he may be able to suggest 
an alternate source.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 9, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Barry McKee via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Yes they are.

Barry McKee

C 29 “Discovery II”
Bronte, ON

From: Matthew Wolford via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: 9-Dec-23 8:24 AM
To: Richard Bush
Cc: Stus-List; Matthew Wolford
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

Is South Shore Yachts still in business?

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 8, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Richard Bush 
mailto:bushma...@aol.com>> wrote:

Hi all; Bill is the winner for long distance diagnosing...; there is  a chrome 
"collar" or "nut' which is threaded and the the top of the rudder post which is 
also threaded; the collar is tightened down over the rudder post and sits on a 
delrin "washer" which is about 1/8 inch thick. There are two set screws in the 
collar to keep it tight n the rudder post.  The rudder pivots on this assembly 
when steering the boat.

In my case, these set screws apparently loosened up to allow the collar to 
loosen which caused play in the rudder post. The result was to strip the 
threads on the collar allowing the rudder to drop.  The fix is to get a new 
collar, which I hope someone here can help my in identifying; there are no 
markings or part numbers on the collar. Of course, I have lots of photos.

For a quick fix, we were able to invert the collar and use the remaining 
threads ( about 1/2" to 5/8") to hold the rudder in place. I am confident that 
this will work until I can identify and order the new collar.

So it seems I have been lucky and my situation fits under Mike Hoyt's "good 
case" scenario rather than the whole assembly failing, which is the "bad case" 
scenario.   I feel a lot better than I did 24 hours ago, but will report back 
on progress.  I would have thought the C used the same assembly for all of 
the rudders regardless of the model of the boat, but maybe not...;

If anyone ha any experience or suggestions in locating the "collar, please send 
them on...Thank you to everyone!

Richard
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
(502) 584-7255


On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 03:37:58 PM EST, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I thought there was a nut on the top of the post. If so, it may have come off 
and it slipped down till the quadrant hit the hull. Obviously you are going to 
have to go down an look, and all things shall be revealed unto you

Bill Coleman
Erie PA


On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:15 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hi all; I am in need the collective wisdom of the group for a rudder issue; my 
boat (1985 C 37 CB) has been sitting on a trailer since early September for 
repairs to the hull, not rudder related; sometime in the past week the rudder 
has dropped a full two plus inches and no one knows how this happened; the hull 
 has been painted and the painters said they moved the rudder by moving the 
steering wheel and had no issues;  does anyone have any ideas or suggests about 
what could have occurred? and more importantly, what needs to be done to make 
the rudder usable?


We were hoping to relaunch in the next week or so...I'll be happy to provide 
more information if anyone has questions...Thanks!

Richard
1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River...


Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
(502) 584-7255
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Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

[Matthew Wolford via CnC-List]

I suggest starting there.  If Rob doesn’t have one, he may be able to suggest an alternate source.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 9, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Barry McKee via CnC-List  wrote:Yes they are. Barry McKee C 29 “Discovery II”Bronte, ON From: Matthew Wolford via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: 9-Dec-23 8:24 AMTo: Richard BushCc: Stus-List; Matthew WolfordSubject: Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly Is South Shore Yachts still in business? Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 8, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Richard Bush  wrote:Hi all; Bill is the winner for long distance diagnosing...; there is  a chrome "collar" or "nut' which is threaded and the the top of the rudder post which is also threaded; the collar is tightened down over the rudder post and sits on a delrin "washer" which is about 1/8 inch thick. There are two set screws in the collar to keep it tight n the rudder post.  The rudder pivots on this assembly when steering the boat.   In my case, these set screws apparently loosened up to allow the collar to loosen which caused play in the rudder post. The result was to strip the threads on the collar allowing the rudder to drop.  The fix is to get a new collar, which I hope someone here can help my in identifying; there are no markings or part numbers on the collar. Of course, I have lots of photos. For a quick fix, we were able to invert the collar and use the remaining threads ( about 1/2" to 5/8") to hold the rudder in place. I am confident that this will work until I can identify and order the new collar.  So it seems I have been lucky and my situation fits under Mike Hoyt's "good case" scenario rather than the whole assembly failing, which is the "bad case" scenario.   I feel a lot better than I did 24 hours ago, but will report back on progress.  I would have thought the C used the same assembly for all of the rudders regardless of the model of the boat, but maybe not...; If anyone ha any experience or suggestions in locating the "collar, please send them on...Thank you to everyone!  RichardRichard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255  On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 03:37:58 PM EST, Bill Coleman via CnC-List  wrote:   I thought there was a nut on the top of the post. If so, it may have come off and it slipped down till the quadrant hit the hull. Obviously you are going to have to go down an look, and all things shall be revealed unto you  Bill ColemanErie PA  On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:15 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List  wrote: Hi all; I am in need the collective wisdom of the group for a rudder issue; my boat (1985 C 37 CB) has been sitting on a trailer since early September for repairs to the hull, not rudder related; sometime in the past week the rudder has dropped a full two plus inches and no one knows how this happened; the hull  has been painted and the painters said they moved the rudder by moving the steering wheel and had no issues;  does anyone have any ideas or suggests about what could have occurred? and more importantly, what needs to be done to make the rudder usable?   We were hoping to relaunch in the next week or so...I'll be happy to provide more information if anyone has questions...Thanks!   Richard1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River...  Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
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Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

[Barry McKee via CnC-List]

Yes they are.

 

Barry McKee

 

C 29 “Discovery II”

Bronte, ON

 

From: Matthew Wolford via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: 9-Dec-23 8:24 AM
To: Richard Bush
Cc: Stus-List; Matthew Wolford
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

 

Is South Shore Yachts still in business?

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 8, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Richard Bush  wrote:



Hi all; Bill is the winner for long distance diagnosing...; there is  a chrome 
"collar" or "nut' which is threaded and the the top of the rudder post which is 
also threaded; the collar is tightened down over the rudder post and sits on a 
delrin "washer" which is about 1/8 inch thick. There are two set screws in the 
collar to keep it tight n the rudder post.  The rudder pivots on this assembly 
when steering the boat.  

 

In my case, these set screws apparently loosened up to allow the collar to 
loosen which caused play in the rudder post. The result was to strip the 
threads on the collar allowing the rudder to drop.  The fix is to get a new 
collar, which I hope someone here can help my in identifying; there are no 
markings or part numbers on the collar. Of course, I have lots of photos.

 

For a quick fix, we were able to invert the collar and use the remaining 
threads ( about 1/2" to 5/8") to hold the rudder in place. I am confident that 
this will work until I can identify and order the new collar. 

 

So it seems I have been lucky and my situation fits under Mike Hoyt's "good 
case" scenario rather than the whole assembly failing, which is the "bad case" 
scenario.   I feel a lot better than I did 24 hours ago, but will report back 
on progress.  I would have thought the C used the same assembly for all of 
the rudders regardless of the model of the boat, but maybe not...;

 

If anyone ha any experience or suggestions in locating the "collar, please send 
them on...Thank you to everyone! 

 

Richard

Richard N. Bush Law Offices

2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine

Louisville, Kentucky 40220

(502) 584-7255

 

 

On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 03:37:58 PM EST, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote: 

 

 

I thought there was a nut on the top of the post. If so, it may have come off 
and it slipped down till the quadrant hit the hull. Obviously you are going to 
have to go down an look, and all things shall be revealed unto you 

 

Bill Coleman

Erie PA

 

 

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:15 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 

Hi all; I am in need the collective wisdom of the group for a rudder issue; my 
boat (1985 C 37 CB) has been sitting on a trailer since early September for 
repairs to the hull, not rudder related; sometime in the past week the rudder 
has dropped a full two plus inches and no one knows how this happened; the hull 
 has been painted and the painters said they moved the rudder by moving the 
steering wheel and had no issues;  does anyone have any ideas or suggests about 
what could have occurred? and more importantly, what needs to be done to make 
the rudder usable? 

 

 

We were hoping to relaunch in the next week or so...I'll be happy to provide 
more information if anyone has questions...Thanks!  

 

Richard

1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River...

 

 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices

2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine

Louisville, Kentucky 40220

(502) 584-7255

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Stus-List Re: C 37 Rudder post assembly

[Matthew Wolford via CnC-List]

Is South Shore Yachts still in business?Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 8, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Richard Bush  wrote:Hi all; Bill is the winner for long distance diagnosing...; there is  a chrome "collar" or "nut' which is threaded and the the top of the rudder post which is also threaded; the collar is tightened down over the rudder post and sits on a delrin "washer" which is about 1/8 inch thick. There are two set screws in the collar to keep it tight n the rudder post.  The rudder pivots on this assembly when steering the boat.  In my case, these set screws apparently loosened up to allow the collar to loosen which caused play in the rudder post. The result was to strip the threads on the collar allowing the rudder to drop.  The fix is to get a new collar, which I hope someone here can help my in identifying; there are no markings or part numbers on the collar. Of course, I have lots of photos.For a quick fix, we were able to invert the collar and use the remaining threads ( about 1/2" to 5/8") to hold the rudder in place. I am confident that this will work until I can identify and order the new collar. So it seems I have been lucky and my situation fits under Mike Hoyt's "good case" scenario rather than the whole assembly failing, which is the "bad case" scenario.   I feel a lot better than I did 24 hours ago, but will report back on progress.  I would have thought the C used the same assembly for all of the rudders regardless of the model of the boat, but maybe not...;If anyone ha any experience or suggestions in locating the "collar, please send them on...Thank you to everyone! RichardRichard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255






On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 03:37:58 PM EST, Bill Coleman via CnC-List  wrote:



I thought there was a nut on the top of the post. If so, it may have come off and it slipped down till the quadrant hit the hull. Obviously you are going to have to go down an look, and all things shall be revealed unto you Bill ColemanErie PAOn Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:15 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List  wrote:Hi all; I am in need the collective wisdom of the group for a rudder issue; my boat (1985 C 37 CB) has been sitting on a trailer since early September for repairs to the hull, not rudder related; sometime in the past week the rudder has dropped a full two plus inches and no one knows how this happened; the hull  has been painted and the painters said they moved the rudder by moving the steering wheel and had no issues;  does anyone have any ideas or suggests about what could have occurred? and more importantly, what needs to be done to make the rudder usable? We were hoping to relaunch in the next week or so...I'll be happy to provide more information if anyone has questions...Thanks!  Richard1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River...Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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