Stus-List Bent rudder

2024-05-15 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
Folks, 
He who shall remain nameless managed to back down onto….  Anyway, the subject 
doesn’t bury the lead. 
She’s a 30’ mk1. I believe 1972, maybe 73.  Hull number plate is missing and 
she’s pre cast-in-the-transom days.   
The rudder is a piece of plate with reinforcing “longitudinal” pieces welded on 
running at right angles to the rudder post and not even close to horizontally 
as one would expect.  I shudder to think of the hydrodynamics……  Anyway, 
there’s a bend of about 35 degrees to stbd just parallel with a longitudinal.  
I have bolted together a structure made of 4x4s and threaded rod/washers/nuts 
that has pulled it just about straight.  But how do I know if I have pulled it 
enough.  I expect it will spring back but I have no idea how much overbend I 
need to put in so as to end up with an( even close to) straight rudder. 

That’s the major problem.  The other is those reinforcing pieces and the 
complete lack of any foil esque) shape to to it. I have access to some black 
locust I could bolt on in vertical “planks” for lack of a better term, which 
would reinforce that straightening work I hopefully have close enough, and then 
I can fair them a little to give some shape.  It would require cutting short 
those longitudinals and grooving the backs of the planks a bit but that’s 
doeable. I could through bolt them side to side as needed and voila, rudder 
fixed and faired.  Coat planks in some sort of goop of course (open to 
suggestions). 

I’m trying to find pics on my phone but it doesn’t seem to be showing all my 
pics…. I’ll investigate.  


So, is there anything glaringly wrong with my plan? Intention would be to coat 
the planks in epoxy then bottom paint and bolt on new ones if (when) they need 
replacing.  

Also contemplating pulling her diesel and installing an electric motor. Anyone 
have experience there? 

Thanks for your ideas hivemind.

Cheers

Daniel
CnC30 Santiago





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Stus-List Re: Interior 'walls'

2021-01-31 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
I have always known the “ceiling” in a boat to be the deckhead.  The actual 
ceiling is the “planking” on the inside of the frames to give a nice smooth 
planked look on the inside as well as provide structural rigidity and 
longitudinal stiffness.  And floors are below the cabin sole, which is what you 
walk on, compared to the floors which are a structural piece connecting the 
left and right frame halves at any given point and are fastened to the keel. 
Ain’t nautical speak grand? 

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> On Jan 31, 2021, at 14:24, Donald Kern via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>  Being a graduate of Annapolis I was familiar/use the common nautical terms 
> of overhead, deck, bulkhead, ladder, lines, head (much to my wife's ridicule 
> at home).  When working for Raytheon doing radar and collision avoidance 
> instructions, i did find an interesting anomaly aboard a 1000' Great Lake ore 
> carrier in the 80's.  I do not know if the captain was pilling my leg, but he 
> referred to the above in common household terms; ie ceiling, floor, wall, 
> stairs etc.  to the point that the placards on the "front wall" of the bridge 
> said "Left" and "Right" and spoke of the ships railings as "fences".  His 
> explanation to a "Salty" was that his small crew came from Midwest and it was 
> easier to use terms they were familiar with, especially in an emergency or 
> drill.
> 
> Don Kern
> Fireball, C&C35 Mk2
> Bristol, RI
> 
> 
> On 1/31/2021 12:38 PM, MICHAEL BRANNON via CnC-List wrote:
>> Way back in NAVY bootcamp they taught us to call it the overhead.   There 
>> are also decks and bulkheads.   The USN spin on things. 
>> Mike Brannon
>> Virginia Lee 93295
>> 1978 C&C 36 CB
>> Virginia Beach, VA
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Mainsail Gate

2021-01-29 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
Make something out of plastic? Threaded stainless bolts tapped into the mast to 
hold it in place? Two rectangles with a couple of holes drilled through them. 
Tap the holes in the mast.  Don’t forget to sink the heads.  I suspect that 
would set you up.  

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> On Jan 29, 2021, at 21:34, Bob Mann  wrote:
> 
> 
> Depends on whether you want the slides/slugs to drop down past the opening or 
> not.  My cover fits much nicer when the mainsail drops down another 4-6 
> inches, so I have the gates on mine; I used to have the stop.
>  
> I attempted to make my own using a flooring carpet strip.  It worked for a 
> week or two but the material is too pliable.
>  
> A lot depends on what your track opening looks like.
>  
> I ended up going with the vastly over-priced MG-S2L from RigRIte: 
> https://www.rigrite.com/Spars/MetalMast_Spars/MetalMast_Mainsail_Gates.php
>  
> Bob
>  
>> On 01/29/2021 8:06 PM Daniel via CnC-List  wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> I was looking for something like that.  Saw an idea for one on the c&c web 
>> page. Then I stopped into the Binnacle and saw a little fitting that screws 
>> into the groove/slot and simply blocks it off. Placed above the groove after 
>> feeding the slides in, keeps them from falling back down and out of the 
>> track.  $13 here in Halifax.  
>> Daniel Willis
>> Santiago
>> 1973 C&C30-1 
>> 
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>>>> On Jan 29, 2021, at 20:04, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>>>  wrote: 
>>>> 
>>> You might be well advised to make it yourself. In Canada, I couldn't find 
>>> one for any reasonable price. And when you try having it delivered from the 
>>> US, the shipping costs are ridiculous. 
>>>  
>>> Of course YMWV.
>>>  
>>> Marek 
>>> 1994 C270 Legato 
>>> Ottawa, ON
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Jean Forgues via CnC-List 
>>> Date: 2021-01-29 18:25 (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: forgu...@videotron.ca
>>> Subject: Stus-List Mainsail Gate
>>>  
>>> Bonjour
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> For my C&C27-5, I am looking for a mainsail gate that allows the sail 
>>> slides to slide past the gate entrance without falling out.  The gate is 
>>> about 7cm long.  Any idea where I can find that?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Jean
>>> 
>>> Chicoutimi, Canada
>>> 
>>>  
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Stus-List Re: Mainsail Gate

2021-01-29 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
I was looking for something like that.  Saw an idea for one on the c&c web 
page. Then I stopped into the Binnacle and saw a little fitting that screws 
into the groove/slot and simply blocks it off. Placed above the groove after 
feeding the slides in, keeps them from falling back down and out of the track.  
$13 here in Halifax.  
Daniel Willis
Santiago
1973 C&C30-1

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> On Jan 29, 2021, at 20:04, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
>  You might be well advised to make it yourself. In Canada, I couldn't find 
> one for any reasonable price. And when you try having it delivered from the 
> US, the shipping costs are ridiculous. 
> 
> Of course YMWV.
> 
> Marek 
> 1994 C270 Legato 
> Ottawa, ON
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Jean Forgues via CnC-List 
> Date: 2021-01-29 18:25 (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: forgu...@videotron.ca
> Subject: Stus-List Mainsail Gate
> 
> Bonjour
>  
> For my C&C27-5, I am looking for a mainsail gate that allows the sail slides 
> to slide past the gate entrance without falling out.  The gate is about 7cm 
> long.  Any idea where I can find that?
>  
> Jean
> Chicoutimi, Canada
>  
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Re: Stus-List Removing a C&C 34 fuel tank

2020-09-07 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
Our 30’ mk1 was repowered with diesel and the tank is translucent plastic at 
this point if that helps anyone with anything.  

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> On Sep 7, 2020, at 08:49, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
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> 
> HI Don
>  
> We replaced our tank with military grade aluminum custom made by Luther 
> Welding in Bristol RI. http://www.lutherswelding.com/Old one was original 
> to boat, was not leaking but did it due to its age (32 years) so it was only 
> a matter of time.  Old tank came out of lazarette – very tight fit and 
> required some persuasion of the fill neck.  I also could have removed the 
> teak trim from the lazarette and hollowed out a small portion of the glass to 
> fit the fill fitting if I was considering reusing it after inspection but I 
> wasn’t so did not.   Also had to reposition Sendur tank and exhaust elbow and 
> throttle cable. Also replaced fill hose (very expensive).  New one fit right 
> in as fill fitting is screwed in, not welded so total height was less.  
> Considered using a plastic tank but was strongly advised against due to fire 
> hazard.  Very time consuming project and tight fit all around.
>  
>  
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
>  
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Re: Stus-List R: Cockpit plaque - C&C 30

2020-08-19 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
Yeah. I looked pretty close. Not sure how much paint is there. She’s gel-coated 
and her colour is quite faded. Original maybe? Maybe not. 

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> On Aug 19, 2020, at 22:17, Donald Kern via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>  Dan
> 
> Have you look closely near the top, stb'd, outboard side of the transom.  My 
> 1974 35 carries her HIN there, there was no plaque installed.  The HIN was 
> mandated in 1972 so you should have it there unless the transom was damage or 
> you have many coats of paint that filled it in.  HIN can be decoded as Aaron 
> described below and will start with either CCY or ZCC  (C&C's manufacturer's 
> code).
> 
> Don Kern
> Fireball  C&C35 Mk2
> Bristol RI
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/17/2020 8:00 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List wrote:
>> Dan,
>> Your hull number is part of your HIN. Hull numbers used between October 31, 
>> 1972 and August 1, 1984 are formatted this way:
>> 
>> HIN:
>> ABC12345M79A
>> 
>> ABC = Manufacturer's code
>> 12 = Model
>> 345 = Serial Number (Hull Number)
>> M 
>> 79 = Year built
>> A = Month: A= August B =September...
>> 
>> Aaron R.
>> Admiral Maggie,
>> 1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540
>> Annapolis, MD
>> 
>> 
>> From: Daniel 
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:05 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Aaron Rouhi 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List R: Cockpit plaque - C&C 30
>>  
>> Where is that plaque? I can’t find mine. No idea what hull number she is. 
>> 1973 mk1.  
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Wincher's size for C&C 34

2020-08-18 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
Interesting. My 30 mk1 has 26 mains and 22 abaft the mains interested what 
responses come back as I’ve considered some of those as well.  

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> On Aug 18, 2020, at 17:40, Dean McNeill via CnC-List  
> wrote:
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> Just bought a C&C 34 with Barient #25 two speed winches, but not 
> self-tailing. Wondering if anyone knows the size I should order to add the 
> rubber “Winchers” to make them sort-of self-tailing? Or can someone measure 
> the barrel diameter of same winches if you have them…. My new boat is a 4 
> hour drive away at the moment.
> 
> Thanks! Dean

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Re: Stus-List R: Cockpit plaque - C&C 30

2020-08-16 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
Where is that plaque? I can’t find mine. No idea what hull number she is. 1973 
mk1.  

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> On Aug 16, 2020, at 17:20, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you Tom!
> 
> Aaron
> Admiral Maggie
> 79 30-1
> Annapolis, MD
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> Subject: Stus-List R: Cockpit plaque - C&C 30
>  
> 
> Here is a link to an image of my plaque, C&C 30, 1974 (taken prior to a nice 
> re-painting of the cockpit!):
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/KdcehGGebkX1qkRr7
> 
> Tom
> C&C 30, MK1 (1974) #286 -0574
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Re: Stus-List Teak Maintanance

2020-08-11 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
Could a card scrapper judiciously applied help in this situation? 

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> On Aug 11, 2020, at 07:10, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> When I got my C&C 40 I used citrus strip to remove the varnish on my cabin 
> sole. I then lightly sanded them with 150 and then 180 grit paper and hit 
> them with a coat of Pettit Clear Sealer. I sanded that lightly with 150 grit 
> then started building up with Epiphanes Gloss Varnish. After three or four 
> coats I sanded pretty thoroughly to flatten the grain, then added another 4 
> coats or so. It still looked very good when I sold the boat 5 years later. 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:37 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Bo,
>> 
>> The discoloring is from water.  Tone need to CAREFULLY get down through the 
>> varnish without messing with the holly sole.
>> 
>> Neil Andersen
>> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>> From: CnC-List  on behalf of General Gao via 
>> CnC-List 
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 2:55 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: General Gao
>> Subject: Stus-List Teak Maintanance
>>  
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Just wondering about the my interior teak maintenance. The picture below 
>> shows what it looks like now. I tried to use paper towel, teak cleaner, teak 
>> oil, did not change a thing. Should I use scrubber or I am not on the right 
>> track? The yellow color seems to be from something that "grow" from the wood.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L3b7cvaYxZN8wRMuZiEZhDCDYk5-Pihn/view?usp=sharing
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Bo
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Re: Stus-List Engine starting issue

2020-08-02 Thread Daniel via CnC-List
Sometimes. Lucky you this time. Usually not though I think. :) 

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> On Aug 2, 2020, at 17:05, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>  My starter button was giving me problems.  It turned out the the button 
> switch was loose.  The rubber cap concealed that fact.  I tighten the ring on 
> the Loose switch and it was fine.  
> 
> Sometime things are easier to fix than we expect...
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera 
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
> 
> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 16:38:36 -0300
>> From: dwight veinot 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine starting issue
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Next easiest try. Replace the starter button switch
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 10:50 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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Stus-List depth finder follow-up

2015-06-15 Thread McElwreath, Daniel via CnC-List
Hi, the depth display is not readable on my 1980 cc 32. I asked listers and a 
number said, Listers said, what brand, what size, etc.  Anyway, it is a Brooks 
and Gatehouse  , squarish, measures 4 5/16 and 4 5/16.  I called the repair 
facility and he said (and he's right) it is the cockpit display of the unit 
down below at the nav table. Yes, that is working below..  But the service tech 
said it would take about 2 hours, and around $250 to repair.  Yikes.  !  Any 
suggestions?  Thanks in advance, Dan McElwreath  Tively II, City Island, NY
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Stus-List depth finder display

2015-06-14 Thread McElwreath, Daniel via CnC-List
The readout on my cockpit depth display on 1980 cnc 32 is barely readable in 
the daylight. I have been unable to find a source for simply replacing the 
displau unit.  Can that be done? or do I have to buy a complete set, with 
transducer, etc.  Thanks for any guidance. Dan Mc on Tively II at City Island
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Stus-List solution to shower drain

2015-03-09 Thread McElwreath, Daniel via CnC-List
Saw a link to Edd Schillay's solution to shower pump failure.  I could not open 
the link.  I am on city island, at HYC on a 32 c&c.  sorry, could not find an 
off list address.
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Re: Stus-List Prop size/pitch for a Yanmar 1GM10 in a 27 MkII

2014-08-16 Thread McElwreath, Daniel via CnC-List
I have a 1980, 32' with a 2qm15 and the first year I had it, same thing 
happened.  I spent hours trying to figure out what was wrong, and finally my 
son in law said lets dive the boat and look at the prop.  If someone had told 
me that "stuff: on the prop could have made that much difference, I never would 
have believed it. Dan Mc


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Subject: Stus-List Prop size/pitch for a Yanmar 1GM10 in a 27 MkII

Hi Folks,
Any 27MkII folks out there with a Yanmar 1GM10 diesel?  What prop do you have 
on there, and is it able to achieve max rpm under load?  I can't recall what I 
have (3 blade but don't know size/pitch) but at 2700rpm I am billowing black 
smoke and still only doing 5kts.  Dirty bottom is going to contribute to this, 
plus some junk on the prop itself, but I wouldn't have thought it would be 
*that* big an effect.
Cheers,
Paul

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Stus-List remove head sink on c n c 32?

2014-07-27 Thread McElwreath, Daniel via CnC-List
Before going in the water this Spring I replaced all the  waste hose and ran 
thru the vanity in head.  This week I had to rebuild the par shower drain pump 
so I had to remove that.  My question:  Can the head sink be removed to allow 
access?  Working thru the small vanity door is an absolute BEAR.  I have been 
reluctant to try and put the pump back, only because it is such a pain.  I was 
even thinking of cutting the vanity wall out, including the little door, and 
then reglassing when finished.  But I know what that would look like.  Thanks 
for any advice.  Dan Mc on Tively II in City Island, NY
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