Re: Stus-List Dirty fuel?

[Jim Eagon via CnC-List]

I have had similar problems with "Trinity's" (84 C 37) fuel system. She
still has her original fuel tank and engine.
She quit on me several times at sea, necessitating repairs en route.

The culprit? Slime and dirt in the tank. Polishing and additives did not
help, as chunks of slime would dislodge and then plug the intake tube
screen.
I finally had to pull the tank, have it cleaned and pressure tested. All is
good now, but I can't help be think I should eventually replace it with a
plastic one.

I also replaced the pick-up tube and fuel gauge sender, since I didn't want
to have those 30+ year-old items fail later.

Fair winds and following seas!

Jim Eagon
"Trinity"
'84 C 37


On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:13 AM DON JONSSON via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The other day when motoring the engine quit when pulling into the marina.
> Got it going again to make the slip but then it quit again.  Repeat a few
> times.  We thought the most likely culprit was the new fuel gauge not being
> configured correctly and had run out of diesel.  Second culprit may be
> dirty fuel as had been sailing with very little fuel in the tank and that
> could stir things up.
>
> So the next day we began the investigation.
>
> We hadn't run out of diesel and there is about 1/4 of a tank.  Checked the
> primary filter which is new and it doesn't look too bad.  Started the
> engine again and it ran and then quit a couple of times.  Trying again we
> rev'd it hard just before it could die and it kept going even when we put
> it back to idle.  Now it seems to run fine.  But it doesn't instil
> confidence.
>
> In the C fuel tank you can take out the gauge and you have a little (2
> inch?) hole you can see into the tank.  We put a camera in there and can
> see the bottom of the tank is about 50% covered with black.  The rest
> shines.  If you swirl a stick in there the black sediment is definitely
> light and moves.
>
> So perhaps it is the fuel filters.  The secondary filter is not one you
> can look into so it could be there.  Sailing the boat with little fuel in a
> following sea would definitely stir things up.  But why is the engine
> running well now if it is a plugged filter?  Why didn't it require bleeding?
>
> We got a quote to polish the fuel tank and it is decidedly not cheap.  In
> fact I'd go all the way to damned expensive.
>
> So the questions:
>
> 1. Has anyone else had a similar experience and was it the fuel filters?
> We never had to bleed the lines and the engine now runs fine.
>
> 2. Does anyone have another idea as to what it could be?  The engine only
> has 500 hours on it and starts and runs like a top (if you forgive the two
> alternators we have already gone through.  Manufacturing fault on both
> claimed by alternator repair people.)
>
> 3. Can someone give advice on how to clean the fuel.  We have access in
> the front of the tank but not behind the baffle which is about in the
> middle (I think).  The hole is small to options seem limited.   Can you
> dissolve the sediment?   How did you flush it all out?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Don Jonsson
> Andante, C 34
> Victoria
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Email Change

[Jim Eagon via CnC-List]

Hello!!

Thank you for all the great emails in the list.
It has been very helpful for me and my C 37.

Can you please change my email from jea...@gmail.com to jas62661@gmail. com?

Thanks again...!

Jim  Eagon
Happy subscriber and owner.
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Stus-List Sail Flaking

[Jim Eagon via CnC-List]

Hi all,

I've been reading this subject for a few days now, and it's interesting that it 
doesn't look like anybody has mentioned the Dutchman Flaking System. I really 
like mine and it works very well for flaking my sail when single-handing.

They have a website you can Google and learn more about the system - it's 
simple and works really well and doesn't seem to be a problem for cruising or 
racing and it's never in the way. 

Fair winds and fun sailing!

Jim Eagon 
"Trinity"
C 37

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>   4. Re:  Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy jacks
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> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:53:04 -0500
> From: Richard 
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection - now lazy
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> Dave, thank, I would really like to see what your design looks like!
> 
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>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Richard,
>> 
>> I?ve never had lazy-jacks on any of my boats but have just given my new 
>> rigger a detailed set of drawings for a 3-leg lazy-jack system that allows 
>> me to pull on one line which will pull all the lazy-jacks tight to the mast 
>> while sailing. I really, really hate the idea of lazy-jacks and/or a topping 
>> lift rubbing against my mainsail. Just the way I roll I guess.
>> 
>> That said, these days, having the ability to drop a mainsail/ fake it and 
>> cover it fairly quickly makes my wife very happy?
>> 
>> If you?re interested, I can send you a copy of the design.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave Godwin
>> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>> Ronin?s Overdue Refit
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:29 PM, Graham Young via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'll third the sentiments of Marek and Kevin.  I have a Stack Pack/Lazy 
>>> Jack set-up and it is really nice equipment, but if I had it to do over 
>>> again I would probably just get the lazy jacks and save the money for the 
>>> pack.
>>> 
>>> My lazy jacks turn on blocks on the spreaders and the lines then run to 
>>> turning blocks at the base of the mast and then run back to the cockpit.  
>>> So the jacks can be loosened from the cockpit and allowed to dangle near 
>>> the mast when raising the main/sailing and then pulled tight when it is 
>>> time to lower the main.  They also have the option for someone to go 
>>> forward and clip them down.
>>> 
>>> Graham Young
>>> S/V Spellbound
>>> 1981 C 32
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 3:47 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> btw. it is enough to move ?away? (to the mast) only one side of the lazy 
>>> jacks for hoisting the main. If you move the starboard side, you steer a 
>>> bit off the wind (wind from the port bow) and the sail does not touch them.
>>> 
>>> Marek
>>> 
>>> From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 15:10
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: Kevin Driscoll
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Short handed sailing; sail selection
>>> 
>>> I concur with Marek. I have a stack pack and would personally prefer a 
>>> simple set of lazyjacks and a traditional mainsail cover. 
>>> 
>>> On the 42' boat I race on, we keep the lazy jacks "away" forward by the 
>>> goose neck. Therefore, when raising the main they do not get in the way of 
>>> the battens. Before dropping, we deploy the lazy jacks "Up" drop the main, 
>>> and deal with flaking and sail ties back at the dock. The lazy jacks are 
>>> put "away" again before we put the sail cover on.
>>> 
>>> I follow roughly the same procedure on our boat with our stack pack. I 
>>> personally never understood people trying to raise their batten'd main with 
>>> the stack pack or lazy jacks deployed. 2 out of 3 times you are going to 
>>> catch at least one batten and potentially damage your main or at least 
>>> cause unnecessary chafe/wear.
>>> 
>>> It is possible to set up lazy 

Stus-List Sailing from San Francisco to San Diego

[Jim Eagon via CnC-List]

Hi all:

I'll be moving my C 37 "Trinity" from San Francisco to Oceanside (near
San Diego) in November.
I have heard interesting "tales" about sailing the California coast and am
doing my best to prepare.
However, I have not owned my boat for very long (less than a year now) and
I am new to the C brand.
Is there anything I should be aware of in terms of how she might perform or
behave on the trip or anything I
should be wary of? Do those of you who have made extended voyages or
cruised CA have any advice?
This trip will be about 400 mi, by my calculations an she seems a quality
boat and I feel it will be a good adventure in coastal cruising.

Thank you in advance!

Fair Winds

Jim :-)

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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 127, Issue 32

[Jim Eagon via CnC-List]

Hi all: 
So is there a C RDV for those of us in the SW?

Fair winds and happy back to school!!

Jim

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> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 22:45:52 -0700
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> Sitting in the cockpit of Alera looking out at Telegraph Harbor and the 
> marina.  Last night of a great week end here for the 25th annual C and C 
> northwest Rendezvous.  About 20 boats and twice that attendees.  Great fun, 
> great friends and great food.  All round great week end.  Big shout out to 
> Margaret, Jim and the rest of the crew that makes this happen.  If you live 
> in the Pacific Northwest and are not here, shame, shame, shame...now you must 
> walk the streets naked!
> 
> Next year, same place, 8/11-13.  Be there!
> 
> Til then, fair winds my C brethren!
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera 
> 1990 C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
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Stus-List New C 37 Owner

[Jim Eagon via CnC-List]

Hi all:

I just purchased "Trinity", a 1984 C7C 37, from her original owner.
She's in top shape and I want to get some things going for this coming
summer.
My first question is: where can I find a copy of the original owner's
manual for the boat?
I have already looked at the c site but the 37 seems to be missing?

Also, are there any experts out here who have installed SSB? I have some
ideas for
an antenna, but I really would like to know what people have done. I want
to work 10m-80m
and, with the rod rigging, I'm not sure how to string a wire antenna.

Thank you all for your comments and shared wisdom - I have enjoyed reading
the posts so far.

Fair winds and 73...
Jim Eagon [K6JFE]

I'd rather be sailing!
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