Ditto on the other owners. Kindred, a 37+ shoal draft with a Yanmar 3HM35F and a 3 blade max prop does 7.2.in flat water at 2725 very smoothly. About 6.7 at 2400
Richard H. Hulit, Jr. 1 917 854-5537 mobile > On Jan 11, 2015, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: C&C 37+ engine size (Josh Muckley) > 2. Re: C&C 37+ engine size (Ken Heaton) > 3. Re: C&C 37+ engine size (Joe Della Barba) > 4. Re: Broken Goose neck (Gary Nylander) > 5. The stern squats at high speed (TOM VINCENT) > 6. Re: Broken Goose neck (John Russo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 08:13:37 -0500 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: DJ Hawk <djhaug...@juno.com>, "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size > Message-ID: > <CA+zaCRCmLD4nQ0r=39ib7d6-bdwqpek74mccqf2tsskwnmr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I don't think you'll earn any bargaining points. Once you drive it you'll > understand. The tip of Sea Hawk's transom sits 6-9 inches above the water > when balance on her lines in the slip. Under full power the tip of the > transom is submerged 2-3 inches. This was the same experience on Blue > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: C&C 37+ engine size (Josh Muckley) > 2. Re: C&C 37+ engine size (Ken Heaton) > 3. Re: C&C 37+ engine size (Joe Della Barba) > 4. Re: Broken Goose neck (Gary Nylander) > 5. The stern squats at high speed (TOM VINCENT) > 6. Re: Broken Goose neck (John Russo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 08:13:37 -0500 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: DJ Hawk <djhaug...@juno.com>, "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size > Message-ID: > <CA+zaCRCmLD4nQ0r=39ib7d6-bdwqpek74mccqf2tsskwnmr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I don't think you'll earn any bargaining points. Once you drive it you'll > understand. The tip of Sea Hawk's transom sits 6-9 inches above the water > when balance on her lines in the slip. Under full power the tip of the > transom is submerged 2-3 inches. This was the same experience on Blue > Pearl (37+) when we were looking to buy her. I have never once said to > myself, "Boy if only I had a little more power." > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > On Jan 11, 2015 7:55 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Ok well, I guess it is adequate then. I just tend to see 40 hp engines in >> most 40 footers. >> >> Maybe not be the ideal and will be a bargaining point if it comes to that. >> >> Bigger is better in this instance I think... >> >> Thanks for the insights guys! >> >> Danny >> >> >> From my Android phone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: allen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Date: 01/10/2015 3:53 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size >> >> >> Our 30-2 has 20 hp Universal and easily reaches hull speed in light to >> calm conditions. Originally it was powered by an 18 hp Universal that >> netted 16. >> >> Allen Miles >> s/v Septima >> >> *From:* Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:41 PM >> *To:* Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size >> >> Danny: >> Some say if you have one hp per foot of boat, you are adequately powered >> for a sailboat. A 35 hp diesel in a 37+ seems adequate to me. >> >> Rob Abbott >> AZURA >> C&C 32 - 84 >> Halifax, N.S. >> >> >> On 2015/01/10 12:30 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote: >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> I'm eyeing a 1989 37+ but it has a 35 HP universal diesel. That, seems >> kind of small for a nearly 40' boat. doesn't it? >> >> Danny >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. >> >> Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all >> subscribers. >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. >> >> Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all >> subscribers. >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150111/76a29618/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:45:44 -0400 > From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> > To: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>, cnc-list > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size > Message-ID: > <CAAbfP6QcKr=Qs32Oe5=is2cd-js1en1umh8cvc4bqeiwnxu...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Our 37XL was re-powered a number of years ago. We now have a 47 hp tubo > spinning an 18" dia three blade feathering prop. > > We get no more useful performance that Edd or Josh get now with their 35 hp > engines. > > "2400 RPMs, I can hit 7.2 knots ... pretty easily." We do the same. > > "Under full power the tip of the transom is submerged 2-3 inches." > > We get that too. > > Wide open at 3600 rpm we get about 8 knots and submerge the transom a bit > more than 2" to 3", probably 4" or 5". And use a ton more fuel > in the process. Not very useful. > > Ken H. > C&C 37XL Salazar > > On 11 January 2015 at 09:13, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I don't think you'll earn any bargaining points. Once you drive it you'll >> understand. The tip of Sea Hawk's transom sits 6-9 inches above the water >> when balance on her lines in the slip. Under full power the tip of the >> transom is submerged 2-3 inches. This was the same experience on Blue >> Pearl (37+) when we were looking to buy her. I have never once said to >> myself, "Boy if only I had a little more power." >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> On Jan 11, 2015 7:55 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Ok well, I guess it is adequate then. I just tend to see 40 hp engines >>> in most 40 footers. >>> >>> Maybe not be the ideal and will be a bargaining point if it comes to that. >>> >>> Bigger is better in this instance I think... >>> >>> Thanks for the insights guys! >>> >>> Danny >>> >>> >>> From my Android phone >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: allen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> Date: 01/10/2015 3:53 PM (GMT-05:00) >>> To: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size >>> >>> >>> Our 30-2 has 20 hp Universal and easily reaches hull speed in light to >>> calm conditions. Originally it was powered by an 18 hp Universal that >>> netted 16. >>> >>> Allen Miles >>> s/v Septima >>> >>> *From:* Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:41 PM >>> *To:* Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size >>> >>> Danny: >>> Some say if you have one hp per foot of boat, you are adequately powered >>> for a sailboat. A 35 hp diesel in a 37+ seems adequate to me. >>> >>> Rob Abbott >>> AZURA >>> C&C 32 - 84 >>> Halifax, N.S. >>> >>> >>> On 2015/01/10 12:30 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> I'm eyeing a 1989 37+ but it has a 35 HP universal diesel. That, seems >>> kind of small for a nearly 40' boat. doesn't it? >>> >>> Danny >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. >>> >>> Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all >>> subscribers. >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>> page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. >>> >>> Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all >>> subscribers. >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>> page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. >> >> Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all >> subscribers. >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150111/fdbceda2/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 10:29:25 -0500 > From: "Joe Della Barba" <j...@dellabarba.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size > Message-ID: <02d601d02db3$630481a0$290d84e0$@dellabarba.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > C&Cs are not big fat CatBenHuns. They do not need as much power. With a big > engine you would need a variable pitch prop controllable from the helm or be > perpetually like a Corvette stuck in 2nd gear. I used to fly an airplane > that had a much bigger than standard engine and a fixed pitch prop. It > climbed like a bat out of hell - boating equivalent would be beating into > heavy seas - but in level flight it went no faster than the normal engine > and used a ton of gas. > > > > Joe Della Barba > > j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> > > > > Coquina C&C 35 MK I > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 8:14 AM > To: DJ Hawk; C&C List > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size > > > > I don't think you'll earn any bargaining points. Once you drive it you'll > understand. The tip of Sea Hawk's transom sits 6-9 inches above the water > when balance on her lines in the slip. Under full power the tip of the > transom is submerged 2-3 inches. This was the same experience on Blue Pearl > (37+) when we were looking to buy her. I have never once said to myself, > "Boy if only I had a little more power." > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Jan 11, 2015 7:55 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > Ok well, I guess it is adequate then. I just tend to see 40 hp engines in > most 40 footers. > > > > Maybe not be the ideal and will be a bargaining point if it comes to that. > > > > Bigger is better in this instance I think... > > > > Thanks for the insights guys! > > > > Danny > > > > > >> From my Android phone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: allen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > > Date: 01/10/2015 3:53 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca > <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca> >,cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size > > > > Our 30-2 has 20 hp Universal and easily reaches hull speed in light to calm > conditions. Originally it was powered by an 18 hp Universal that netted 16. > > > > Allen Miles > > s/v Septima > > > > From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:41 PM > > To: Danny Haughey <mailto:djhaug...@juno.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine size > > > > Danny: > Some say if you have one hp per foot of boat, you are adequately powered for > a sailboat. A 35 hp diesel in a 37+ seems adequate to me. > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > > On 2015/01/10 12:30 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > I'm eyeing a 1989 37+ but it has a 35 HP universal diesel. That, seems > kind of small for a nearly 40' boat. doesn't it? > > > > Danny > > > > > > _____ > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. > > Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all > subscribers. > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. > > Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all > subscribers. > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150111/b74e9e5b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 11:01:27 -0500 > From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> > To: "Paul Fountain" <p...@seasource.ca>, <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Goose neck > Message-ID: <E427CEEFB0534FFF9282934B4C8CA02D@GaryPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > An unintended jibe broke mine. After talking to some welders, who said the > cast metal was hard to work with, I had a local guy fabricate one out of > stainless (all that about 15 years ago) - it still looks new. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Fountain via CnC-List > To: Richard N. Bush ; <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Goose neck > > > We had garhauer make a new one in stainless when we put the solid vang on > .... Not a fan of cast aluminum for the reason you saw > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 11, 2015, at 2:17 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > I went to the boat to check on things and while standing on the frozen > dock I sensed that something wasn't right but nothing seemed out of the > ordinary until it dawned on me that the boom was laying on the top of the > cabin; the outboard end was hanging by the topping lift but the inboard end > was laying at the base of the mast! I looked at it and found that the black > metal part that goes in the goose neck was broken into pieces and the broken > part of the "ring" was still in the goose neck with the bolt intact....I can > only assume that it somehow froze and snapped? We have had the same cold > spell as the rest of the country, (single digits, etc.); and some windy > nights, but I have no idea how a one inch wide and half inch thick piece of > metal just "broke"; nonetheless, can this be repaired? welded? or should I > look for a new one? The boom is original to the boat; 1985 37 CB; any ideas? > Thanks > > > Richard > 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River > > > Richard N. Bush > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by > the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list > preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. > > Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all > subscribers. > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. > > Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all > subscribers. > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150111/c414f242/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 11:54:00 -0500 > From: TOM VINCENT <tvince...@msn.com> > To: C&C Forum <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List The stern squats at high speed > Message-ID: <bay168-w12245ac078651d15ee5bd5eed...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I was wondering if anyone else has the same problem that I have with my 36' > that has the 3 cylinder Yanmar 30 HP. While motoring if I increase the speed > the stern starts squatting the faster I go. I top out at 6.5 knots of speed > and the stern is way down. I have a martec 18'' folding prop and I do not > know the pitch. > > Tom Vincent > Frolic II 1979 36' C&C > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150111/34b5c8e2/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 11:54:59 -0500 > From: John Russo <johnrussob...@optonline.net> > To: "'Richard N. Bush'" <bushma...@aol.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Goose neck > Message-ID: <004201d02dbf$55f16030$01d42090$@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Garhauer Marine fabricated a stainless goose neck for my 32 to work with a > solid vang. Very reasonable. Ask for Guido or Marc and send them your broken > goose neck for dimensions and mast shape. > > > > John > > > > Arpeggio > > C&C 32 > > Norwalk CT > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard > N. Bush via CnC-List > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 2:18 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Goose neck > > > > I went to the boat to check on things and while standing on the frozen dock > I sensed that something wasn't right but nothing seemed out of the ordinary > until it dawned on me that the boom was laying on the top of the cabin; the > outboard end was hanging by the topping lift but the inboard end was laying > at the base of the mast! I looked at it and found that the black metal part > that goes in the goose neck was broken into pieces and the broken part of > the "ring" was still in the goose neck with the bolt intact....I can only > assume that it somehow froze and snapped? We have had the same cold spell as > the rest of the country, (single digits, etc.); and some windy nights, but I > have no idea how a one inch wide and half inch thick piece of metal just > "broke"; nonetheless, can this be repaired? welded? or should I look for a > new one? The boom is original to the boat; 1985 37 CB; any ideas? Thanks > > > > Richard > > 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River > > > > Richard N. 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