Re: Stus-List Pegathy's New England Voyage

2015-05-22 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
Menemsha is lovely bring your camera! The vacation place of Obama. Also on the 
breakwater you may see gigantic fat naked short-haired lesbians with large 
tattoos basking on the rocks attempting to mate.  Avert your eyes!  Or not as 
your preference may be. 

Stelios

> On May 22, 2015, at 08:02, Indigo via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> I have cruised Buzzards Bay, the Islands and Narraganset fairly extensively 
> over the years. Great suggestions from Damian. I would add my favorites...
> 
> Quissett : beautiful little harbor north east of Woods Hole. Long walk or 
> trolley bus to Woods Hole 
> 
> Hadley Harbor: opposite Woods Hole - no landing on islands but really 
> peaceful place to anchor or pick up free moorings if available
> 
> Menemsha: call early in the morning to make a mooring reservation. Very 
> limited but the do allow up to three maybe four boats on each of the moorings 
> inside. 
> 
> Coecles Harbor (east side of Shelter Island). Channel narrow and not a lot of 
> depth - go in / out on a rising tide!! But once in, several options. I 
> generally anchor on the left side going in. 
> 
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> 
>> On May 22, 2015, at 06:49, Damian Greene via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan,
>>  
>> I used to be based in Westbrook CT, so here are my recommendations for 
>> Eastern Long Island Sound. This is based on several summer cruises on our 
>> C&C 34 with wife and two younger teenagers.
>>  
>> Westbrook - slip at Brewer's. Huge full-service yard. Pool, showers, 
>> restaurant (expensive). Gas BBQ grills and picnic tables at the head of each 
>> dock. There is a picnic area at the channel entrance with gas grills, picnic 
>> tables, and a clubhouse with kitchen facilities and a TV room. Great spot to 
>> hang out in the evening and watch the boat traffic. That was our regular 
>> hangout.
>>  
>> Mystic - slip at Brewer's. On the right, just before the railroad bridge. 
>> Easy dinghy ride to the town dock. Decent swimming pool. Be careful to stay 
>> in the channel, and do NOT try to cut left of the rockpile at the entrance 
>> to Noank (you'll see what I mean - there's a confusing dogleg). Get 
>> ice-cream at the store by the lifting bridge. Of course the Seaport Museum.
>>  
>> In general, any Brewer's yard along LIS is a good stopover.
>>  
>> Shelter Island - good moorings at Piccozzi's Dering Harbor Marina. Decent 
>> showers. Nice small town with decent bars and restaurants. Explore the 
>> island by bike - rentals at Piccozzi's garage. Fun trip in through Plum Gut.
>>  
>> Newport - we would stay at Dutch Harbor. Moorings for rent, launch service, 
>> showers and laundry. Walk to foodstore and restaurants. Harbor shuttle 
>> across to Newport. More peaceful than craziness of Newport.
>>  
>> Martha's Vineyard - we were disappointed with available moorings. The best 
>> we found were in Vineyard Haven. Services not great, and serious wakes from 
>> car-ferries. Still, the Vineyard is a must-see. Rent a Jeep. Go to the Jaws 
>> locations.
>>  
>> Block Island - Great Salt Pond. Rather than scramble for town moorings, we 
>> would book a "slip" at Champlin's Marina. In reality, you're likely rafted, 
>> and it gets very congested with powerboats at weekends. Still, it is a fun 
>> experience. Decent pool, bars, takeout pizza, cinema (for kids), all without 
>> leaving the marina. And then of course there's Block to explore! Rent bikes. 
>> Great beaches.
>>  
>> Cuttyhunk is our favorite destination. If you get there on time, there are 
>> town moorings in the inner harbor. Otherwise, plenty of moorings available 
>> outside, but with more wave action. Beautiful island. No cars, one small 
>> restaurant, boat goes around each evening selling fresh shellfish and 
>> lobsters. Great beaches (at harbor entrance, and over the bar at the far 
>> side). Channel can be tricky, so be careful. Last time we were there, we 
>> watched another sailboat solidly aground on a falling tide. No fun.
>>  
>> Cape Cod Canal is a beautiful ride. Make sure to time your transits with the 
>> tides. Some serious wave action on the southern entrance - you'll be surfing 
>> in, then it gets flat.
>>  
>> Sandwich Marina is a decent stop at the northern exit from the CCC. showers, 
>> food-store nearby, decent restaurants.
>>  
>> Feel free to discuss more offline. damian.gre...@yahoo.com
>>  
>>  
>> Damian Greene
>> C&C 34 GHOST
>> Bass Harbor, Maine
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Pegathy's New England Voyage

2015-05-22 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
Maybe 6 knots. Usually 4.5-5

But yes no sense fighting it 

It is the East River and LIS junction (not Hudson) 

Jersey Shore the people are to be more feared than the weather. Beware the
 'Snookie'

> On May 21, 2015, at 23:54, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like tou plan to come through Hells Gates where the Hudson River meets 
> Long Island Sound.  The currents there can be upwards of 8 knots!
> 
> Be very aware of the weather while passing the Jersey Shore.  It can get 
> pretty nautical.
> 
> Josh
> 
>> On May 21, 2015 11:43 PM, "Daniel Sheer via CnC-List" 
>>  wrote:
>> I'm taking Pegathy from Baltimore to Boston and back, leaving June 5. 
>> Itinerary is Baltimore, Cape May, Block Island, Martha's Vineyard, 
>> Nantucket, Provincetown, Bowston, Woods Hole, Mystic, New Haven, New York 
>> City, Lower Jersey Shore, Ocean City Md, and then back to Baltimore. Got 4 
>> weeks to do it, and crew joining and leaving at various places along the 
>> way. Any recommendations as to anchorages, marinas, where I need 
>> reservations, things to do, places to go, people to see, are very welcome. 
>> Also welcome - things not to do, places not to go, people not to see, etc.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Dan Sheer
>> Pegathy
>> LF 38
>> Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag -> cows in spring

2015-05-19 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
In Greece we say 'pushing a dead donkey' 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2015, at 14:40, Russ & Melody via CnC-List  
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> Hi Stelios, 
> 
> How about our quest for etiquette, "milking a dead cow"?
> 
> The other thought was, "it's gone udder up" but I'm pretty sure I just made 
> up that one.
> 
> Cheers, Russ
> Sweet 35 mk-1
> 
> 
> At 05:34 PM 18/05/2015, Stelios wrote:
>> Here are the proper ones 
>> 
>> http://www.commodoreinsignia.com/flags_signals.asp
>> 
>> Toes up or down? Interesting. 
>> Reminds me of a  phrase used when a cow dies. Hmmm I just can't recall it!
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Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
Here are the proper ones 

http://www.commodoreinsignia.com/flags_signals.asp

Toes up or down? Interesting. 
Reminds me of a  phrase used when a cow dies. Hmmm I just can't recall it! 

> On May 18, 2015, at 20:23, Kim Brown via CnC-List  
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Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
Dennis mou,

The Past Commodore flag is very DIFFERENT from the Commodore's flag. 

Only a baboon could confuse them! 

Plus the PC always has the white hair. 



> On May 18, 2015, at 19:49, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> So I see two boats each with a club burgee from the same club and each with a 
> commodore's flag???  So which one is really the commodore?  Don't you think 
> there would be a rule somewhere that states a past commodore shouldn't fly a 
> commodore's flag.
> 
> I quit flying my flag officer flag once I was no longer a flag officer at my 
> club.  Actually, now that I think about it, I never flew the darn thing at 
> all.  :)
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Stelios via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Can you cite that rule please sir? I don't believe a PC has to be on 'club 
>> business' to identify they are a PC of the club burgee they are flying. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 18, 2015, at 15:32, Indigo via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help. It would seem to make sense to consider the Past 
>>> Commodores (assuming they completed full term) in the same light as 
>>> Commodores in which case the flags (or are they burgees) should only be 
>>> flown in other clubs waters when the officer is on official Club business 
>>> (which I would include leading / participating in a rendezvous / Club 
>>> Cruise). Otherwise they should revert to flying the standard Club burgee 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jonathan
>>> Indigo C&C 35III
>>> SOUTHPORT CT
>>> 
>>>> On May 18, 2015, at 13:24, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>> 
>>>> In a conversation where I mentioned "Past Commodore", I was told by an 
>>>> ex-Naval Officer that once a Commodore always a Commodore. With that in 
>>>> mind, I believe the Past Commodore's burgee should be flown in the same 
>>>> manner as the Commodore's burgee.
>>>> 
>>>> At our Club an executive member does not qualifies as Commodore unless he 
>>>> completes the full term. 
>>>> 
>>>> So, that burgee is flown improperly on both counts, IMHO.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers, Russ  P.C.
>>>>  Sweet, 35 mk-1
>>>> Nanaimo Yacht Club
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At 10:08 AM 18/05/2015, you wrote:
>>>>> Could anyone please clarify whether it is proper etiquette for a 
>>>>> past-Commodore's flag to be flown day and night on a boat that is moored 
>>>>> permanently in the waters of a Club for which the owner of the boat was 
>>>>> NOT Commodore.  Etiquette rules that I can find are explicit on current 
>>>>> Flag officers flags - but I can't find and references to past Commodore's 
>>>>> flags  
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Indigo C&C 35III
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Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
Can you cite that rule please sir? I don't believe a PC has to be on 'club 
business' to identify they are a PC of the club burgee they are flying. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2015, at 15:32, Indigo via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your help. It would seem to make sense to consider the Past 
> Commodores (assuming they completed full term) in the same light as 
> Commodores in which case the flags (or are they burgees) should only be flown 
> in other clubs waters when the officer is on official Club business (which I 
> would include leading / participating in a rendezvous / Club Cruise). 
> Otherwise they should revert to flying the standard Club burgee 
> 
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
> 
>> On May 18, 2015, at 13:24, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> 
>> In a conversation where I mentioned "Past Commodore", I was told by an 
>> ex-Naval Officer that once a Commodore always a Commodore. With that in 
>> mind, I believe the Past Commodore's burgee should be flown in the same 
>> manner as the Commodore's burgee.
>> 
>> At our Club an executive member does not qualifies as Commodore unless he 
>> completes the full term. 
>> 
>> So, that burgee is flown improperly on both counts, IMHO.
>> 
>> Cheers, Russ  P.C.
>>  Sweet, 35 mk-1
>> Nanaimo Yacht Club
>> 
>> 
>> At 10:08 AM 18/05/2015, you wrote:
>>> Could anyone please clarify whether it is proper etiquette for a 
>>> past-Commodore's flag to be flown day and night on a boat that is moored 
>>> permanently in the waters of a Club for which the owner of the boat was NOT 
>>> Commodore.  Etiquette rules that I can find are explicit on current Flag 
>>> officers flags - but I can't find and references to past Commodore's flags  
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jonathan
>>> Indigo C&C 35III
>>> SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List Rod rollin

2015-05-14 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
Or you drove 30 mins to rigger and 60 mins in Million Dollar Saloon in 
Mississauga?  :) 


> On May 14, 2015, at 09:25, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I had the rod off yesterday and the coil fit in my car. Oh the wonders of 
> driving an old station wagon, I love my car. I drove 1.5 hours each way to 
> leave the rigging at the shop. 
> 
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> .25" rod diameter x 200 = 50 inches or 4' 2" diameter circle.  When I had my 
>> headstay done, I made an X using 1 x 4, and made the coil about 5 ft around. 
>>  Fit easily on the roof racks of my car, and I drove the 2 1/2 hrs to the 
>> rigger to save time and talk about options and give him a check to start 
>> work.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>> 
>> From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: "Dennis C." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:56:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?
>> 
>> Navtec recommends coiling no less than 200 times diameter.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 13, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No idea. Rigger is over an hour away. As it stands now he's asked me to ship 
>> him the upper and lower so that he can ensure the new fitting fits with the 
>> rest of the rig. 3' to 4' coils is what was recommended, which sounds tight 
>> to me but he's the expert so I trust him. I'll be off to the boat to collect 
>> the two pieces of rod after work today, then straight to purolator. 
>> 
>> This must be some kind of sign .. I think that Neptune is telling me to move 
>> my boat to Georgian bay. I bet I can get it trucked up there by the time 
>> that rod is ready. I'm already paid up for the season though so I guess I'de 
>> be a fool to do it. Georgian bay is calling though. One can only sail to the 
>> thousand islands so many times (two and three week trips both of the past 
>> two years, time to start spending vacation time a little differently). 
>> 
>> Steve
>> Suhana, C&C 32
>> Toronto
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
I don't  recall the exact guidelines but if your rod rigging is more than 10 
years 
Old or 20,000 miles it should be replaced. Many insurance companies 
Require it. 

There are different levels of rigging inspection also. 



> On May 12, 2015, at 10:10, robert via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Stevan:
> 
> I agree with Dwight and others to, at the very least, do a dye test.  Better 
> still, since you had a rigger do an inspection, have him back to do the dye 
> test.
> 
> From the pics, it looks like a 'crack' and if it is, you should not sail your 
> boat with it.it is your 'cap shroud'.
> 
> Just curious, did the rigger inspect the two 'tie bars' between the tangs.  
> When we were first assembling our rig in 2006, we noticed that the top tie 
> bar was almost half cut through by the wire in the main halyard.it was 
> made out of aluminum ...had a machine shop here make us a new one from 
> SShope your rigger inspected them.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S. 
> 
>> On 2015-05-12 10:30 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I had a rigging inspection about a month ago, rigger says everything is fine 
>> with the exception of a couple of small things I can sort out myself. 
>> Nothing to worry about otherwise. Great I thought
>> 
>> Mast comes down for the winter up here. This year I removed spreaders and 
>> all rigging so I could have this inspection done thoroughly and so I could 
>> replace any cotter pins etc. Also easier to store the mast without the 
>> spreaders and rod rigging. 
>> 
>> So I'm putting it all back together yesterday in preparation for crane time 
>> on Friday and I notice that the   fitting that connects the cap 
>> shroud to the spreader is cracked .. I think. I'm going to try to link the 
>> images inline, if you don't see them click the links at the end:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Um, is this going to be a problem? Looking at it I kind of think yes .. 
>> which is a bummer, man. I'm perplexed that the rigging guy didn't notice it 
>> or mention it if he did. 
>> 
>> Thoughts? 
>> I'm thinking that maybe the sawing action of that fitting rubbing against 
>> it's neighbours (three pieces of rod come together at the spreader tip on my 
>> rig, all the pieces are sandwiched and this guy is in the middle) just 
>> caused some scoring, but that it's not a crack. If I thought for sure this 
>> was a crack I wouldn't be asking the question. I don't want to shorten our 
>> short sailing season and I'de like to get the stick pointing skyward asap. 
>> Maybe I should just trust the rigger .. I did email him but so far no 
>> response. 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>> Suhana, C&C 32
>> 
>> http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/1.jpg
>> http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/2.jpg
>> http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/3.jpg
>> http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/4.jpg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread Stelios via CnC-List

> 
> Yes
> 
> 
> Um, is this going to be a problem? 
> 
> 
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