Stus-List Re: need age-reversing machine ASAP! Or a boat expander!

[hans mhans.com via CnC-List]

We are spelunkers of fiberglass caves.

~Hans
Inconceivable, C Corvette 31, #138
Brooklyn, NY

On Jul 23, 2023, at 6:12 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I suspect most of us with IOR era boats have had similar experiences.



The transom on my 38 is a bit over 5 feet wide. I needed to adjust the steering 
cables on the quadrant, so I removed the one scupper hose in the way and went 
down in the lazarette with my trusty wrenches and schrunched head first, on my 
back towards the steering gear. I couldn't quite put a wrench on both ends of 
the steering cable, so I put my foot on a convenient surface in the lazarette 
and pushed myself the last few inches until I could reach just fine. Success! 
The wheel centered and the cables snug.



Then the problem materialized.



I couldn't back out. My hands were trapped above my head by the underside of 
the cockpit sole and the steering guide pulleys with nothing to push against. 
Nothing I could reach with my foot to pull against. And no one on the dock to 
hear me shout "Anyone there!?"



About the time I had decided that they would  discover my withered body when 
the smell became offensive to someone on an adjacent boat at the club, I decide 
to make another try at getting out. I finally managed to raise my back and 
wiggle my butt so I could "inchworm" myself down a quarter or half inch at a 
time until I could hook a toe on the edge of the fuel tank and move back until 
I could free my hands, reach the side of the lazarette, and pull out of the 
trap.



I'm basically convinced that a new boat should come with the option of either a 
midget with an engineering degree, or a very precocious 14-year old.



Rick Brass
Imzadi C 38 mk2
Washington, NC



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Sent: Jul 23, 2023 4:36 PM
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Cc: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: need age-reversing machine ASAP! Or a boat expander!


I can easily relate to that.

I was stuck, headfirst, in the lazarette on friend’s Hunter 34. The lazarette 
was deep and there was a “point of no return”. If you passed it, there was no 
way to crawl your way back, but the lazarette was too tight to fall in and 
reverse. Fortunately, the owner was not that far away and eventually heard my 
yelps for help.

I keep saying that we need to teach some very little kids (2-3 yo) to do 
maintenance on our boats. They have the right size for that.

Marek

1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa ON



From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2023 3:35 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: need age-reversing machine ASAP! Or a boat expander!

I still have nightmares of getting stuck back under the cockpit.
I once got stuck upside down head first, under the cutting board, under a panel 
below that where I was working on the isotherm refrigeration unit. I was 
calling for help, but no one was around. After about an hour and half, I 
finally extricated myself.

Bill Coleman
Former C 39

On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 12:11 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I am running the propane hose for my new stove down the starboard side of the 
boat, which is requiring me to crawl back to the stern under/beside the aft 
cockpit. My memory of working back there was I just crawled in and back out. 
Turns out to not be that easy, I had to take the engine control cables and 
bilge pump hoses off their fittings and I still can just barely sort of do it. 
When I was a teenager I fit just fine. Did the boat shrink? Can I expand it? 
Did I “opposite of shrink”?

Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA


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Stus-List Re: Chandleries

[hans mhans.com via CnC-List]

There is still Defender. Though, their website is not as technologically up to 
date as Fisheries Supply. But, to be honest, I will always pay more to support 
our local joints if they have what I need. Easy for me to say, since we are 
fortunate to still have a few to chose from here in NYC.

~Hans
Corvette 31 #138, Inconceivable
Brooklyn, NY

On Mar 10, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

and BOE Marine and the GPS Store for electronics.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:53 AM Joel Aronson 
mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Fawcett Boat in Annapolis is always less than West and has free shipping on 
most orders over $99.  They also have more sailing gear than the local West.  I 
use a Port Supply discount at West.  It varies from 5% to 60% depending on the 
item.

Joel

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:39 AM Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Bill,
Over the past several years I have found that Wholesale Marine is the lowest 
price for bottom paint.

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/

They typically have a paint sale or rebate offer right about now.  I see that 
VC17 is on sale now.

Otherwise, I look around and have used a number of different online retailers.  
The retailer depends on what I am looking for.

I haven't purchased anything from Defender in quite a while, but used to.  
Didn't know they were acquired -- explains the prices.  I purchase from West 
only when I need something quick or want to put my hands on it to examine 
before purchase.  Turned out the new fuel tank I put in last year was offered  
lowest price at West.  Never know. There is a store near me.

Jeff Laman
81 C "Harmony"
Ludington, MI

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 11:27 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Chandleries

Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been going 
after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been pretty 
pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look too good -


 Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the 
transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less 
value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,” S 
wrote.>>

I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.

Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine, etc?  I 
can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even Fishermen's supply 
is not that great anymore.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie, PA
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Stus-List Re: Woodpecker attacks genoa

[hans mhans.com via CnC-List]

Found a hornets nest way up in the fan tail while wiggling through the 
lazarette to secure a loose fitting. Thankfully abandoned.

~Hans

On Sep 16, 2022, at 9:24 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Just to add to it, a duck layed an egg in our cockpit (no nesting material at 
all) - we just found a fresh egg one day going for a sail. Thankfully, no 
cleanup was needed.

I guess you never know what you can find...

Marek
Ottawa, ON



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 Original message 
From: Novabraid via CnC-List 
Date: 2022-09-16 14:22 (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: csgilchr...@comcast.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: Woodpecker attacks genoa

I had a tougher time when the ospreys left and the cormorants moved in.  Yes, 
the osprey can turn your boat into a sushi bar garbage bin with fishbones and 
guts scattered everywhere, but the cormorants seem to be able to spray bird poo 
all over the boat even better than a commercial painting outfit.   I’ve 
invested heavily in bird mitigation equipment throughout my boat. Noisy whirly 
things fore and aft, spikes on the spreaders, and tripper lines across the 
cockpit.  Seems effective this summer but the boat’s still in the water.
One year when I put the boat in early, some swallows thought it would be fun to 
build a nest in the hollow opening of the end of the boom.  First time I 
tensioned the outhaul a huge clump of twigs and sticks shot out the end of the 
boom.  Fortunately, no bird eggs.
Who would have thought that sailing could be so intertwined with ornithology..
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 Landfall 35
Padanaram, MA

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:52 AM
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Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Woodpecker attacks genoa

Wait until an osprey couple moves in – they make an enormous mess very quickly!

Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA



From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:37 AM
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Cc: Joel Aronson mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Woodpecker attacks genoa

Weeds, Alligators, woodpeckers - What's next?

Joel

On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:35 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
They drum to mark their territory, as well. I have seen (and heard) them 
drumming on the telephone poles (esp. the top metal cap) and on our 
eavestroughs.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

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Subject: Stus-List Re: Woodpecker attacks genoa

Woodpeckers will also drum when seeking a mate. I've seen one rap on an 
aluminum ladder, no bugs on it. Very loud.

Adrian Humphreys
Epilogue, Rockport ME
C 33-2
adri...@telamontech.com




> On Sep 16, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>
> Strange.  Heard repetitive tapping sound while on the boat this week.  The 
> source was a woodpecker attacking the furled genoa on a neighboring boat.  
> Must have been bugs in the sail.  Link to picture:
>
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F1kc4okG4zrUi3Vh4GgUM4wJZAQE4fGFNt%2Fview%3Fusp%3Dsharingdata=05%7C01%7C%7C76499e53bae741ecf3e808da97f5f30f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637989379854903918%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=7An28oCIHE7%2FL5LRjw%2FQmDfNwpsM2lJ2gUp2K35op94%3Dreserved=0
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA


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