Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Matt,
 No dumb questions.  First, the eye is small, not large enough to do a luggage 
tag through headsail cringle.  If it were made large enough to do that you 
would end up with triple thickness of line for each sheet ( think two sides of 
eye plus line through), times two sheets, somewhat defeating the purpose.  
  Also, soft shackles make changing sheets on sail change much easier.  
  And they never hang up on side or baby stays in my experience.  
Bill Walker 
CnC 36


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On Sunday, December 18, 2016 Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Sorry to re-raise a stale subject with a dumb question, but if soft shackles 
require a spliced eye on the genoa sheet, why not eliminate the shackle 
altogether by running the spliced eye through the cringle, then running the 
line through the spliced eye and snugging it?  This would also eliminate the 
bowline.

 

Also, on my mid-‘70s boat, the halyard winches are mounted on the deck near the 
mast.  Sometimes a genny sheet will catch on a forward winch, usually on the 
self-tailing riser.  I looked at running halyards back to the cockpit, but it 
would be very difficult with this boat.  Any suggestions?

 

From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 8:00 AM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

 

John,

Soft shackles are a piece of high modulus line with a bury splice at one end 
and a crown knot on the other.  The shackle is closed by slipping the eye over 
the knot on the opposite end and pulling the splice closed by putting tension 
on the shackle.  A soft shackle must be run through the cringle on the sail as 
well as a spliced eye on the end of the sheet. The shackle can be opened by 
removing tension on the shackle and sliding open the splice to loop it off the 
crown knot which otherwise prevents the shaadckle from opening.

Most folks connect the shackle to the sail by running the looped shackle like a 
luggage tag through the cringle on the clew and then opening the shackle to 
pass it through the spliced eye on the jib sheet.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall

Padanaram, MA

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Maryann Read via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John and Maryann Read 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

 

OK so color me a bit skeptical, but how does one attach the sheets to the soft 
shackle?  If by bowline, isn’t there still the probability of hanging up on the 
shrouds / baby stay when tacking??

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

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Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Daniel Sheer
Subject: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

 

I made soft shackles for Pegathy's jib sheets. They work great. Don't hang up 
on the shrouds like bowlines do. I used 3/8 hollow braid high tech line. Used 
this technique - 

Better Soft Shackle - 

Use the line lengths and mark measurements they compute for you. You could use 
smaller than 3/8 line.  Took the better part of an hour to make the first one. 
Then I made more for the spin sheets, spin halyard, anything I could think of. 
The more you make the less time it takes. Much better than heavy metal. Unless 
you like that kind of music.

 

Dan Sheer - Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco

 

 

Better Soft Shackle

This soft shackle is more secure and easier to use than the most common version.

 

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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Sorry to re-raise a stale subject with a dumb question, but if soft shackles 
require a spliced eye on the genoa sheet, why not eliminate the shackle 
altogether by running the spliced eye through the cringle, then running the 
line through the spliced eye and snugging it?  This would also eliminate the 
bowline.

Also, on my mid-‘70s boat, the halyard winches are mounted on the deck near the 
mast.  Sometimes a genny sheet will catch on a forward winch, usually on the 
self-tailing riser.  I looked at running halyards back to the cockpit, but it 
would be very difficult with this boat.  Any suggestions?

From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 8:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

John,

Soft shackles are a piece of high modulus line with a bury splice at one end 
and a crown knot on the other.  The shackle is closed by slipping the eye over 
the knot on the opposite end and pulling the splice closed by putting tension 
on the shackle.  A soft shackle must be run through the cringle on the sail as 
well as a spliced eye on the end of the sheet. The shackle can be opened by 
removing tension on the shackle and sliding open the splice to loop it off the 
crown knot which otherwise prevents the shaadckle from opening.

Most folks connect the shackle to the sail by running the looped shackle like a 
luggage tag through the cringle on the clew and then opening the shackle to 
pass it through the spliced eye on the jib sheet.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall

Padanaram, MA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John and 
Maryann Read via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John and Maryann Read 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

 

OK so color me a bit skeptical, but how does one attach the sheets to the soft 
shackle?  If by bowline, isn’t there still the probability of hanging up on the 
shrouds / baby stay when tacking??

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Sheer 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Daniel Sheer
Subject: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

 

I made soft shackles for Pegathy's jib sheets. They work great. Don't hang up 
on the shrouds like bowlines do. I used 3/8 hollow braid high tech line. Used 
this technique - 

Better Soft Shackle - 


Use the line lengths and mark measurements they compute for you. You could use 
smaller than 3/8 line.  Took the better part of an hour to make the first one. 
Then I made more for the spin sheets, spin halyard, anything I could think of. 
The more you make the less time it takes. Much better than heavy metal. Unless 
you like that kind of music.

 

Dan Sheer - Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco

 

 

   Better Soft Shackle
This soft shackle is more secure and easier to use than the most 
common version.

 

 




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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

He is another variation - I have a fixed babystay.  My bowlines were always
getting hung up.  I made a 3 foot strop from 1/4 inch Dyneema, tied a
couple loops in the ends, luggage tagged one end to the sail and used a
soft shackle on the other.  Still had bowlines in the sheets, but they no
longer caught on the babystay as the sail slid across.
This winter I'll splice a couple strops and put one on each genny.  They
will look a lot better than the knotted ones!

Joel

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mitchell's via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Soft shackles are a great idea and like Chuck says, a good winter
> diversion project. What length shackle are you guys using? My instinct
> would be 8 inches from loop to knot but shorter is better, would 6 inches
> work? I will use 3/8 inch.
>
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs
> C&C 37+
>
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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 5:59 AM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> OK so color me a bit skeptical, but how does one attach the sheets to the
> soft shackle?  If by bowline, isn’t there still the probability of hanging
> up on the shrouds / baby stay when tacking??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z-1gA95G_s
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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

The alpine butterfly or spliced eyes are the way to attach with a soft
shackle.  The bulk of the knot and the lead angle of the tails on a bowline
cause it to hang but the eye splices or butterfly knot correct those
problems.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Dec 14, 2016 7:00 AM, "John and Maryann Read via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> OK so color me a bit skeptical, but how does one attach the sheets to the
> soft shackle?  If by bowline, isn’t there still the probability of hanging
> up on the shrouds / baby stay when tacking??
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
>
> Legacy III
>
> 1982 C&C 34
>
> Noank, CT
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:25 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Daniel Sheer
> *Subject:* Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets
>
>
>
> I made soft shackles for Pegathy's jib sheets. They work great. Don't hang
> up on the shrouds like bowlines do. I used 3/8 hollow braid high tech line.
> Used this technique -
>
> Better Soft Shackle -
> 
>
>  Use the line lengths and mark measurements they compute for you. You
> could use smaller than 3/8 line.  Took the better part of an hour to make
> the first one. Then I made more for the spin sheets, spin halyard, anything
> I could think of. The more you make the less time it takes. Much better
> than heavy metal. Unless you like that kind of music.
>
>
>
> Dan Sheer - Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco
>
>
>
>
> Better Soft Shackle
>
> This soft shackle is more secure and easier to use than the most common
> version.
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Splice an eye in jib sheet end
Bill Waller
Cnc 36

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On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
 wrote:

OK so color me a bit skeptical, but how does one attach the sheets to the soft 
shackle?  If by bowline, isn’t there still the probability of hanging up on the 
shrouds / baby stay when tacking??

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Sheer 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Daniel Sheer
Subject: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

 

I made soft shackles for Pegathy's jib sheets. They work great. Don't hang up 
on the shrouds like bowlines do. I used 3/8 hollow braid high tech line. Used 
this technique - 

Better Soft Shackle - 

 Use the line lengths and mark measurements they compute for you. You could use 
smaller than 3/8 line.  Took the better part of an hour to make the first one. 
Then I made more for the spin sheets, spin halyard, anything I could think of. 
The more you make the less time it takes. Much better than heavy metal. Unless 
you like that kind of music.

 

Dan Sheer - Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco

 

 

Better Soft Shackle

This soft shackle is more secure and easier to use than the most common version.

 

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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

John,

Soft shackles are a piece of high modulus line with a bury splice at one end 
and a crown knot on the other.  The shackle is closed by slipping the eye over 
the knot on the opposite end and pulling the splice closed by putting tension 
on the shackle.  A soft shackle must be run through the cringle on the sail as 
well as a spliced eye on the end of the sheet. The shackle can be opened by 
removing tension on the shackle and sliding open the splice to loop it off the 
crown knot which otherwise prevents the shaadckle from opening.

Most folks connect the shackle to the sail by running the looped shackle like a 
luggage tag through the cringle on the clew and then opening the shackle to 
pass it through the spliced eye on the jib sheet.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall

Padanaram, MA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John and 
Maryann Read via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John and Maryann Read 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

 

OK so color me a bit skeptical, but how does one attach the sheets to the soft 
shackle?  If by bowline, isn’t there still the probability of hanging up on the 
shrouds / baby stay when tacking??

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Sheer 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: Daniel Sheer
Subject: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

 

I made soft shackles for Pegathy's jib sheets. They work great. Don't hang up 
on the shrouds like bowlines do. I used 3/8 hollow braid high tech line. Used 
this technique - 

Better Soft Shackle -  <http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_9.php> 


 Use the line lengths and mark measurements they compute for you. You could use 
smaller than 3/8 line.  Took the better part of an hour to make the first one. 
Then I made more for the spin sheets, spin halyard, anything I could think of. 
The more you make the less time it takes. Much better than heavy metal. Unless 
you like that kind of music.

 

Dan Sheer - Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco

 

 




Better Soft Shackle


This soft shackle is more secure and easier to use than the most common version.



 

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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

OK so color me a bit skeptical, but how does one attach the sheets to the soft 
shackle?  If by bowline, isn’t there still the probability of hanging up on the 
shrouds / baby stay when tacking??

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Sheer 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Daniel Sheer
Subject: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

 

I made soft shackles for Pegathy's jib sheets. They work great. Don't hang up 
on the shrouds like bowlines do. I used 3/8 hollow braid high tech line. Used 
this technique - 

Better Soft Shackle -   


 Use the line lengths and mark measurements they compute for you. You could use 
smaller than 3/8 line.  Took the better part of an hour to make the first one. 
Then I made more for the spin sheets, spin halyard, anything I could think of. 
The more you make the less time it takes. Much better than heavy metal. Unless 
you like that kind of music.

 

Dan Sheer - Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco

 

 




Better Soft Shackle


This soft shackle is more secure and easier to use than the most common version.



 

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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Larry via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I am confused! What advantage does this have over the ole standard Bowline
> knot.
>
> It is change sheets and easy to use. Am I missing something.
>


On rigs with split lower shrouds, a sheet with a bowline hangs up on the
forward lower shroud.  This was the case with Touche'.  In lighter breeze
the bowlines would hang on the forward shroud.  Sometimes a crew had to go
forward to help the sail through the fore triangle.  Also, as Michael said,
a bowline will hang up on a baby stay.

After we attached the sheets with the soft shackles, the difference was
DRAMATIC!  The sail glided through the fore triangle with virtually no
hanging up.

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Great write up on using the alpine butterfly and soft shackles.
https://stingysailor.com/2015/06/27/diy-soft-shackles-for-quick-and-easy-headsail-changes-2/

I-36 Guide to making a soft shackle
http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_9.php

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Dec 11, 2016 5:11 PM, "Chuck Saur via CnC-List" 
wrote:

Hey gang...snow here and need a diversion.  I'm surfing for deals on line
for my jib (genoa) sheets, and wondered if there is anything new or
improved anyone is doing when tying on the sheets.  I''ve been using the
ol' bowline...but have used the butterfly (I think that's what a loop on a
continuous line is called).  I have heard of using Dyneema...lightweight
shackles...etc.  Anyone have some cool experience/suggestions?


*Chuck Saur*
C&C 35-3 Morning Sky

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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Larry via CnC-List]

Good point
Yeah that has happen a time or two (every day)
How hard is it to switch out the soft shackle
I may have to look into that Tuesday when I go to the boat.
thanks

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Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets


Larry, I switched to soft shackle this year from bowline because the
bowlines were always getting hung up on my baby stay and i'd'have to run
forward.  Didn't happen once this season!

Mike
Atacama 33mkii

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:27:20 
To: 
Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Larry
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

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[William Walker via CnC-List]

True, but even tied correctly mine would hang occasionally at worst time on the 
baby stay, not so much on shrouds.
Bill Walker
Cnc 36

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On Sunday, December 11, 2016 Jerome Tauber via CnC-List  
wrote:
Bow lines should be tied in opposite directions on the sheets so that the 
smooth side is facing in toward the shrouds and will not hang up as easily. In 
other words starboard sheet has smooth side point in from starboard and port 
sheet points in from port side. That way knotty side does not hang up on 
shroud. Jerry J&J C&C 27V. Sent from my iPhone > 

On Dec 11, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
 wrote: > > > Larry, I switched to soft shackle this 
year from bowline because the bowlines were always getting hung up on my baby 
stay and i'd'have to run forward. Didn't happen once this season! > > Mike > 
Atacama 33mkii > > Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell 
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[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

Bow lines should be tied in opposite directions on the sheets so that the 
smooth side is facing in toward the shrouds and will not hang up as easily.  In 
other words starboard sheet has smooth side point in from starboard and port 
sheet points in from port side.  That way knotty side does not hang up on 
shroud.   Jerry J&J C&C 27V.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 11, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Larry, I switched to soft shackle this year from bowline because the bowlines 
> were always getting hung up on my baby stay and i'd'have to run forward.  
> Didn't happen once this season!
> 
> Mike
> Atacama 33mkii
> 
> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
> Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.
> 
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> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:27:20 
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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Ditto, no hang ups ever
Bill Walker
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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[johnrmcl via CnC-List]

I agree. Would favor spliced sheets and single soft shackle. Check it regularly 
for chafing 


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Larry, I switched to soft shackle this year from bowline because the bowlines 
were always getting hung up on my baby stay and i'd'have to run forward.  
Didn't happen once this season!

Mike
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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

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Any set up that reduces weight and tendency to hang up is a plus cruise or 
race. Also applies to ease of sail change  If it is easy to do then you are 
more likely to do it when needed


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I am confused! What advantage does this have over the ole standard Bowline 
knot.It is change sheets and easy to use. Am I missing something. From: 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets  On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 4:39 PM, 
David Knecht via CnC-List  wrote:I have the same setup 
as Dennis but only use one soft shackle through both lines.  Any advantage to 
using two?  Dave If you want to do a sail change you'll need two unless you 
have a "changing sheet".  We race occasionally so we need to have the ability 
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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

Larry, I switched to soft shackle this year from bowline because the bowlines 
were always getting hung up on my baby stay and i'd'have to run forward.  
Didn't happen once this season!

Mike
Atacama 33mkii

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[Larry via CnC-List]

I am confused! What advantage does this have over the ole standard Bowline knot.

It is change sheets and easy to use. Am I missing something.

 

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On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 4:39 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I have the same setup as Dennis but only use one soft shackle through both 
lines.  Any advantage to using two?  Dave

 

If you want to do a sail change you'll need two unless you have a "changing 
sheet".  We race occasionally so we need to have the ability to do sail changes.

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

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On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 4:39 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have the same setup as Dennis but only use one soft shackle through both
> lines.  Any advantage to using two?  Dave



If you want to do a sail change you'll need two unless you have a "changing
sheet".  We race occasionally so we need to have the ability to do sail
changes.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[William Walker via CnC-List]

I too use soft shackles.  Getting an eye in each end of sheet will allow you to end for end when wear starts.
I use two shackles.  Just thought that way if have a problem can remove the lazy sheet while sail still drawing.  But maybe one would be ok too
Bill Walker
Cnc 36
On Dec 11, 2016 5:39 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List  wrote:I have the same setup as Dennis but only use one soft shackle through both lines.  Any advantage to using two?  DaveOn Dec 11, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  wrote:For Touche', I bought VPC sheets with eyes on each end from apsltd and fasten them with soft shackles.  See:https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsMU9xOXBVd3F5SlkDennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
Aries1990 C&C 34+New London, CT


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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I have the same setup as Dennis but only use one soft shackle through both 
lines.  Any advantage to using two?  Dave

> On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> For Touche', I bought VPC sheets with eyes on each end from apsltd and fasten 
> them with soft shackles.  See:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsMU9xOXBVd3F5Slk 
> 
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 

Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Chuck
Think you mean a luggage tag or cowhitch.
VPC is stiff. If money were no object I'd use Salsa line.  StaSet is cheap
but it will stretch in a breeze. Just need to take an extra crank on the
winch.

Joel

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 5:25 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> For Touche', I bought VPC sheets with eyes on each end from apsltd and
> fasten them with soft shackles.  See:
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsMU9xOXBVd3F5Slk
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hey gang...snow here and need a diversion.  I'm surfing for deals on line
> for my jib (genoa) sheets, and wondered if there is anything new or
> improved anyone is doing when tying on the sheets.  I''ve been using the
> ol' bowline...but have used the butterfly (I think that's what a loop on a
> continuous line is called).  I have heard of using Dyneema...lightweight
> shackles...etc.  Anyone have some cool experience/suggestions?
>
>
> *Chuck Saur*
> C&C 35-3 Morning Sky
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For Touche', I bought VPC sheets with eyes on each end from apsltd and
fasten them with soft shackles.  See:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsMU9xOXBVd3F5Slk

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hey gang...snow here and need a diversion.  I'm surfing for deals on line
> for my jib (genoa) sheets, and wondered if there is anything new or
> improved anyone is doing when tying on the sheets.  I''ve been using the
> ol' bowline...but have used the butterfly (I think that's what a loop on a
> continuous line is called).  I have heard of using Dyneema...lightweight
> shackles...etc.  Anyone have some cool experience/suggestions?
>
>
> *Chuck Saur*
> C&C 35-3 Morning Sky
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