Re: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

2018-09-15 Thread Nauset Beach via CnC-List 
Doug, Rick, Gary,

 

Thanks for the suggestions.  Am going to the boat today to begin the install
and see if I can figure out a way to better brace the tank to reduce if not
eliminate any movement.  

 

Thanks, 

Brian

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

 

I went with a plastic tank and the original straps (shortened a bit). There
are small 1x1 'fences' around the tank on the platform and I shielded the
tank from the straps with some rubber strips.

Gary

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

 

The tank in my 38 had similar pitting and a small leak. It was sitting on a
plywood platform aft of the engine and transmission (and pretty much over
the stuffing box).

 

When I replaced the tank, I put (5)  4"x4"x1/4" pads made from neoprene seal
bought at my local  Lowes. The tank is held in place by two wooden battens
over the top of the tank in an athwartship orientation. The battens are held
down by stainless rods attached to the support platform with washers and
wing nuts on top of the battens to tension the tank down on the rubber pads.

 

I suspect the idea of battens glassed in under that tank would work - after
all the idea is to allow air circulation so you don't get corrosion - so
long as you can keep the tank from shifting around as the boat moves.

 

Rick Brass

 

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Subject: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

 

A few weeks ago I discovered a diesel leak from the bottom of the tank - the
tank had 2 areas of pitting and one was sufficiently deep to start leaking
and warrant replacing the tank.  I now have the new AL tank and have a
couple of questions about installing it:  

 

The old tank was not strapped down and was resting directly on the ends of 2
stringers and the hull, surrounded on the sides [fairly tightly] by plywood.
This allowed the tank to shift slightly, more or less in place, which wore
on the two end points of the stringers, and that is where corrosion
developed and the leak occurred.  A while back someone (Rick Brass (?) who
is probably a little busy with Florence at the moment) recommended glassing
in old battens under the tank to reduce the opportunity for moisture to
collect and corrosion to occur.  Last week Joe mentioned he used Dri-Dek.
Is there a consensus on how to best support a fuel tank?  

 

The constant shifting of the tank was a contributing factor for the leak.
How do people tie down / strap AL diesel tanks?  There is not much that
looks overly solid to which I can screw in hold downs, like those that come
with this from Defender: 

 

 
https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=scepter-expandable-tank-hold-down
-kit
<https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=scepter-expandable-tank-hold-dow
n-kit=-1|311|2349059|2349070=4201879>
=-1|311|2349059|2349070=4201879  

 

And what to people use for straps?  Would this Sceptre product be an
acceptable way to restrain the tank?  

 

Any suggestions?  

 

TIA,

Brian

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Re: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

2018-09-14 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
I went with a plastic tank and the original straps (shortened a bit). There
are small 1x1 'fences' around the tank on the platform and I shielded the
tank from the straps with some rubber strips.

Gary

 

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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 1:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

 

The tank in my 38 had similar pitting and a small leak. It was sitting on a
plywood platform aft of the engine and transmission (and pretty much over
the stuffing box).

 

When I replaced the tank, I put (5)  4"x4"x1/4" pads made from neoprene seal
bought at my local  Lowes. The tank is held in place by two wooden battens
over the top of the tank in an athwartship orientation. The battens are held
down by stainless rods attached to the support platform with washers and
wing nuts on top of the battens to tension the tank down on the rubber pads.

 

I suspect the idea of battens glassed in under that tank would work - after
all the idea is to allow air circulation so you don't get corrosion - so
long as you can keep the tank from shifting around as the boat moves.

 

Rick Brass

 

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Cc: Nauset Beach mailto:nausetbe...@optonline.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

 

A few weeks ago I discovered a diesel leak from the bottom of the tank - the
tank had 2 areas of pitting and one was sufficiently deep to start leaking
and warrant replacing the tank.  I now have the new AL tank and have a
couple of questions about installing it:  

 

The old tank was not strapped down and was resting directly on the ends of 2
stringers and the hull, surrounded on the sides [fairly tightly] by plywood.
This allowed the tank to shift slightly, more or less in place, which wore
on the two end points of the stringers, and that is where corrosion
developed and the leak occurred.  A while back someone (Rick Brass (?) who
is probably a little busy with Florence at the moment) recommended glassing
in old battens under the tank to reduce the opportunity for moisture to
collect and corrosion to occur.  Last week Joe mentioned he used Dri-Dek.
Is there a consensus on how to best support a fuel tank?  

 

The constant shifting of the tank was a contributing factor for the leak.
How do people tie down / strap AL diesel tanks?  There is not much that
looks overly solid to which I can screw in hold downs, like those that come
with this from Defender: 

 

 
https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=scepter-expandable-tank-hold-down
-kit
<https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=scepter-expandable-tank-hold-dow
n-kit=-1|311|2349059|2349070=4201879>
=-1|311|2349059|2349070=4201879  

 

And what to people use for straps?  Would this Sceptre product be an
acceptable way to restrain the tank?  

 

Any suggestions?  

 

TIA,

Brian

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Re: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

2018-09-14 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List 
The tank in my 38 had similar pitting and a small leak. It was sitting on a
plywood platform aft of the engine and transmission (and pretty much over
the stuffing box).

 

When I replaced the tank, I put (5)  4"x4"x1/4" pads made from neoprene seal
bought at my local  Lowes. The tank is held in place by two wooden battens
over the top of the tank in an athwartship orientation. The battens are held
down by stainless rods attached to the support platform with washers and
wing nuts on top of the battens to tension the tank down on the rubber pads.

 

I suspect the idea of battens glassed in under that tank would work - after
all the idea is to allow air circulation so you don't get corrosion - so
long as you can keep the tank from shifting around as the boat moves.

 

Rick Brass

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nauset
Beach via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 12:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Nauset Beach 
Subject: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

 

A few weeks ago I discovered a diesel leak from the bottom of the tank - the
tank had 2 areas of pitting and one was sufficiently deep to start leaking
and warrant replacing the tank.  I now have the new AL tank and have a
couple of questions about installing it:  

 

The old tank was not strapped down and was resting directly on the ends of 2
stringers and the hull, surrounded on the sides [fairly tightly] by plywood.
This allowed the tank to shift slightly, more or less in place, which wore
on the two end points of the stringers, and that is where corrosion
developed and the leak occurred.  A while back someone (Rick Brass (?) who
is probably a little busy with Florence at the moment) recommended glassing
in old battens under the tank to reduce the opportunity for moisture to
collect and corrosion to occur.  Last week Joe mentioned he used Dri-Dek.
Is there a consensus on how to best support a fuel tank?  

 

The constant shifting of the tank was a contributing factor for the leak.
How do people tie down / strap AL diesel tanks?  There is not much that
looks overly solid to which I can screw in hold downs, like those that come
with this from Defender: 

 

 
https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=scepter-expandable-tank-hold-down
-kit

=-1|311|2349059|2349070=4201879  

 

And what to people use for straps?  Would this Sceptre product be an
acceptable way to restrain the tank?  

 

Any suggestions?  

 

TIA,

Brian

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Re: Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps

2018-09-14 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
Brian,Those straps are for small tanks maybe 10 gal and under. Depends on how 
big your tank is. On my 39 the tanks are held in place by blocks of wood 
screwed to bulkheads. My tanks are all at least 30 gal. Hope this helps. Doug 


Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 Port Orchard YC, WA.


 Original message From: Nauset Beach via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/14/18  09:10  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Nauset Beach  Subject: 
Stus-List Fuel Tank Support and Tie Down / Straps 
A few weeks ago I discovered a diesel leak from the bottom of the tank – the 
tank had 2 areas of pitting and one was sufficiently deep to start leaking and 
warrant replacing the tank.  I now have the new AL tank and have a couple of 
questions about installing it:   The old tank was not strapped down and was 
resting directly on the ends of 2 stringers and the hull, surrounded on the 
sides [fairly tightly] by plywood.  This allowed the tank to shift slightly, 
more or less in place, which wore on the two end points of the stringers, and 
that is where corrosion developed and the leak occurred.  A while back someone 
(Rick Brass (?) who is probably a little busy with Florence at the moment) 
recommended glassing in old battens under the tank to reduce the opportunity 
for moisture to collect and corrosion to occur.  Last week Joe mentioned he 
used Dri-Dek.  Is there a consensus on how to best support a fuel tank?   The 
constant shifting of the tank was a contributing factor for the leak.  How do 
people tie down / strap AL diesel tanks?  There is not much that looks overly 
solid to which I can screw in hold downs, like those that come with this from 
Defender:    
https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=scepter-expandable-tank-hold-down-kit=-1|311|2349059|2349070=4201879
   And what to people use for straps?  Would this Sceptre product be an 
acceptable way to restrain the tank?   Any suggestions?   TIA,Brian___

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