Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

2020-07-27 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Yes, Thank you.  She's spittin’ like an agitated dromedary. 
I think I’ll install the mixing elbow in the Spring. 
Jon 


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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Matthew via CnC-List  
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> 
> Everyone needs spare parts.
>  
> Probably low due to the new hot water heater.  Is the exhaust spitting now?
>  
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> Update. All good. So it was like this... 
> 5 minutes from the dock alarm goes off.
> At the dock I shut off seacock. Pulled the hose, opened Seacock briefly. 
> Plenty of water. Shut seacock. Reattached hose.
> Observed low antifreeze. Added anti freeze. Scratched head. Why low 
> antifreeze? 
> Maybe the loop in the NEW hot water heater used it up? 
> Started engine. Noticed no water spitting. 
> ***Anyone spot the problem yet?***
> Back today and pulled impeller pump. Impeller perfect. Oh wait. The seacock 
> is CLOSED. Yeah that was it. I didn’t reopen it when I ran the engine back at 
> the dock. Hence no water spitting. I gotta calm down. 
> Meanwhile ordered 2 impeller kits and a  ss mixing elbow. 
> 
> Thanks all for clarifications. 
> Jon 
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Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

2020-07-27 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
Everyone needs spare parts.

 

Probably low due to the new hot water heater.  Is the exhaust spitting now?

 

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Update. All good. So it was like this... 

5 minutes from the dock alarm goes off.

At the dock I shut off seacock. Pulled the hose, opened Seacock briefly. Plenty 
of water. Shut seacock. Reattached hose.

Observed low antifreeze. Added anti freeze. Scratched head. Why low antifreeze? 

Maybe the loop in the NEW hot water heater used it up? 

Started engine. Noticed no water spitting. 

***Anyone spot the problem yet?***

Back today and pulled impeller pump. Impeller perfect. Oh wait. The seacock is 
CLOSED. Yeah that was it. I didn’t reopen it when I ran the engine back at the 
dock. Hence no water spitting. I gotta calm down. 

Meanwhile ordered 2 impeller kits and a  ss mixing elbow. 



Thanks all for clarifications. 

Jon 

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Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

2020-07-27 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Update. All good. So it was like this... 
5 minutes from the dock alarm goes off.
At the dock I shut off seacock. Pulled the hose, opened Seacock briefly. Plenty 
of water. Shut seacock. Reattached hose.
Observed low antifreeze. Added anti freeze. Scratched head. Why low antifreeze? 
Maybe the loop in the NEW hot water heater used it up? 
Started engine. Noticed no water spitting. 
***Anyone spot the problem yet?***
Back today and pulled impeller pump. Impeller perfect. Oh wait. The seacock is 
CLOSED. Yeah that was it. I didn’t reopen it when I ran the engine back at the 
dock. Hence no water spitting. I gotta calm down. 
Meanwhile ordered 2 impeller kits and a  ss mixing elbow. 
> Thanks all for clarifications. 
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Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

2020-07-27 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
I had smoke coming out of the engine compartment due to overheating on Friday 
evening.  Sailed back to the slip and ran the engine only long enough to dock 
the boat.

 

On Saturday morning my order was: 1) check to see if exhaust is spitting 
normally; 2) it was, so there was no need to mess around with the water intake, 
the raw water strainer, or the impeller – it wouldn’t be spitting normally if a 
plastic bag or something had been sucked in; 3) next up was the heat exchanger; 
4) I don’t have a level gauge, so I started by looking for signs of antifreeze 
leaking – found some evidence (thank goodness it wasn’t internal to the engine) 
and a possible source (hose clamps needed to be tightened); and 5) added 
antifreeze to the heat exchanger system.  In my case, it took nearly three 
quarts, so this was the problem.  If the level gets low enough, the pump will 
not pick up antifreeze, and the heat exchanger system stops working.  Once 
antifreeze was added, I ran the engine for half an hour and could not get the 
temp above 150.  Had this not been the issue, next would have been the 
thermostat, then the mechanic. 

 

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Thank you. What I thought. I’ll start with impeller and work forward(aft I 
guess). 

Jon

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Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

2020-07-27 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Thank you. What I thought. I’ll start with impeller and work forward(aft I 
guess). 
Jon

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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:01 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> You have the water flow correct. These are things you can check:
> Remove the cap (like a radiator cap) and check the water/antifreeze level.
> Check the level of the fluid in the overflow container (access from the port 
> cockpit locker)
> Close the seacock; open the sea strainer; open the seacock. Water should gush 
> through.
> As long as it's open, clean the strainer.
> When you put the cap back on the sea strainer, make sure you have a good fit. 
> If air enters, you won't get water flow.
> Check the tension on the water pump belt.
> Check the impeller. If any fins are missing, find and remove them.
> If you have the original mixing elbow, it could be clogged, especially if you 
> sail in salt water. Remove it, and clean it out.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 6:18 AM JP Mail via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> I too are days away from a two week trip. 5 minutes off the dock Yesterday 
>> and off goes the high temp alarm. Back to the dock. I always look and listen 
>> for water spitting. Well this time I was “sure” I saw water. Back at the 
>> dock nada. Dry exhaust. 
>> So today I start with diagnosis. 
>> I did check to see if water flows with hose off the seacock. Yes. 
>> I have a replacement impeller which I’ll change today. 
>> I need clarification as to the path of the water. 
>> Does the water go from seacock to sea strainer to impeller(Pump) to heat 
>> exchanger to mixing elbow to muffler to Long Island Sound? 
>> Thank you in advance. 
>> Jon 
>> Hideaway 35-3
>> 3gm30 f
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Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

2020-07-27 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
You have the water flow correct. These are things you can check:
Remove the cap (like a radiator cap) and check the water/antifreeze level.
Check the level of the fluid in the overflow container (access from the
port cockpit locker)
Close the seacock; open the sea strainer; open the seacock. Water should
gush through.
As long as it's open, clean the strainer.
When you put the cap back on the sea strainer, make sure you have a good
fit. If air enters, you won't get water flow.
Check the tension on the water pump belt.
Check the impeller. If any fins are missing, find and remove them.
If you have the original mixing elbow, it could be clogged, especially if
you sail in salt water. Remove it, and clean it out.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 6:18 AM JP Mail via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I too are days away from a two week trip. 5 minutes off the dock Yesterday
> and off goes the high temp alarm. Back to the dock. I always look and
> listen for water spitting. Well this time I was “sure” I saw water. Back at
> the dock nada. Dry exhaust.
> So today I start with diagnosis.
> I did check to see if water flows with hose off the seacock. Yes.
> I have a replacement impeller which I’ll change today.
> I need clarification as to the path of the water.
> Does the water go from seacock to sea strainer to impeller(Pump) to heat
> exchanger to mixing elbow to muffler to Long Island Sound?
> Thank you in advance.
> Jon
> Hideaway 35-3
> 3gm30 f
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

2020-07-27 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List

If your engine is FWC that path would be correct.
Joe

Coquina

On 7/27/2020 9:17 AM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:

I too are days away from a two week trip. 5 minutes off the dock Yesterday and 
off goes the high temp alarm. Back to the dock. I always look and listen for 
water spitting. Well this time I was “sure” I saw water. Back at the dock nada. 
Dry exhaust.
So today I start with diagnosis.
I did check to see if water flows with hose off the seacock. Yes.
I have a replacement impeller which I’ll change today.
I need clarification as to the path of the water.
Does the water go from seacock to sea strainer to impeller(Pump) to heat 
exchanger to mixing elbow to muffler to Long Island Sound?
Thank you in advance.
Jon
Hideaway 35-3
3gm30 f
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