Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Dave, I would like to see some photos of your paint; I would interested in 
where you decided to use paint, and where you kept the teak...thanks
 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
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time to get over painting over the teak factor.   But Corsair has teak 
EVERYWHERE.    Even the galley countertops.  They got a Formica paint.     A 
little strategically painted white goes a long way to brightening up the cave.  
 Never looked back.       David F. Risch (401) 419-4650    From: CnC-List 
 On Behalf OfRobert Boyer via CnC-List
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Cc: Robert Boyer 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains    I think it would depend on 
what type of paint you intend to use and the instructions for the paint.  I 
would think that an oil-based paint would be best but I’m certainly no paint 
expert.    In a way, it seems like a shame to paint over teak but I guess if it 
lightens up the cabin, why not?    Bob Bob Boyer s/v Rainy Days C&C Landfall 38 
(Hull # 230) (Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and 
somewhere on the ICW in between) blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com email: 
dainyr...@icloud.com 

 
On Feb 13, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 wrote: 

You got me thinking that this may work for me—paint it white except for teak 
trim. That might eliminate the stains by painting over them and then just 
sand/varnish/cleanup the teak trim.    Do I need any surface prep on the teak 
(oiled ~8+ years ago) before I paint? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
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Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint in 
the head on water stained teak and it worked great.     Joe Della Barba Coquina 
C&C 35  MK I www.dellabarba.com       From: CnC-List 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains   My interior teak has 
never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was originally oiled and I 
re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.   I would like to apply some 
Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it inside my 1995 C&C! However, 
much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks over the years--most of which 
are now sealed.    My question for the list is how or whether to remove these 
stains--they are not like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They 
are mostly on vertical surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to 
make sanding them a formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be 
necessary.    Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to 
drive the remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough 
to try.    Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this 
job--putting several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!   Charlie 
Nelson Water Phantom 1995 C&C XL/kcb     
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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Yep…took a long time to get over painting over the teak factor.   But Corsair 
has teak EVERYWHERE.Even the galley countertops.  They got a Formica paint.

A little strategically painted white goes a long way to brightening up the 
cave.   Never looked back.


David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

I think it would depend on what type of paint you intend to use and the 
instructions for the paint.  I would think that an oil-based paint would be 
best but I’m certainly no paint expert.

In a way, it seems like a shame to paint over teak but I guess if it lightens 
up the cabin, why not?

Bob
Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the 
ICW in between)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com<mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com>


On Feb 13, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
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You got me thinking that this may work for me—paint it white except for teak 
trim. That might eliminate the stains by painting over them and then just 
sand/varnish/cleanup the teak trim.

Do I need any surface prep on the teak (oiled ~8+ years ago) before I paint?
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Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint in 
the head on water stained teak and it worked great.





Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com<http://www.dellabarba.com>







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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains



My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.



I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
over the years--most of which are now sealed.



My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are not 
like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on vertical 
surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make sanding them a 
formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be necessary.



Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try.



Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!



Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C&C XL/kcb




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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I think it would depend on what type of paint you intend to use and the 
instructions for the paint.  I would think that an oil-based paint would be 
best but I’m certainly no paint expert.

In a way, it seems like a shame to paint over teak but I guess if it lightens 
up the cabin, why not?

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the 
ICW in between)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Feb 13, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You got me thinking that this may work for me—paint it white except for teak 
> trim. That might eliminate the stains by painting over them and then just 
> sand/varnish/cleanup the teak trim.
> 
> Do I need any surface prep on the teak (oiled ~8+ years ago) before I paint?
> 
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> On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint 
> in the head on water stained teak and it worked great.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
> 
> www.dellabarba.com
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie 
> Nelson via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:09 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: cenel...@aol.com
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains
> 
>  
> 
> My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
> originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.
> 
>  
> 
> I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
> inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
> over the years--most of which are now sealed. 
> 
>  
> 
> My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are 
> not like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on 
> vertical surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make 
> sanding them a formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be 
> necessary. 
> 
>  
> 
> Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
> remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try. 
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
> several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
> itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
> most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!
> 
>  
> 
> Charlie Nelson
> 
> Water Phantom
> 
> 1995 C&C XL/kcb
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I was half expecting the paint not to stick, but it did. I sanded a bit and 
wiped down with acetone and on it went. Latex is easy to work with as a winter 
project, you can leave the heat on and not poison yourself or blow yourself up. 
Also very easy to touch up and cheap by boat standards. You do get a “brushed” 
look, if you want perfect mirror gloss you probably need a yacht type enamel.
Joe
Coquina

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

You got me thinking that this may work for me—paint it white except for teak 
trim. That might eliminate the stains by painting over them and then just 
sand/varnish/cleanup the teak trim.

Do I need any surface prep on the teak (oiled ~8+ years ago) before I paint?
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Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint in 
the head on water stained teak and it worked great.





Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=0120ba9e-5db6eb3b-012093e9-0cc47adc5e34-ab40597a733eaed3&q=1&e=a0eb7467-fbfd-4830-a935-2ada5f07ad18&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dellabarba.com%2F>







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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains



My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.



I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
over the years--most of which are now sealed.



My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are not 
like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on vertical 
surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make sanding them a 
formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be necessary.



Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try.



Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!



Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C&C XL/kcb




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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

You got me thinking that this may work for me—paint it white except for teak 
trim. That might eliminate the stains by painting over them and then just 
sand/varnish/cleanup the teak trim.
Do I need any surface prep on the teak (oiled ~8+ years ago) before I paint?

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 On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 
Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint in 
the head on water stained teak and it worked great.
 
  
 
  
 
Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
 
www.dellabarba.com
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains
 
  
 
My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.
 
  
 
I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
over the years--most of which are now sealed. 
 
  
 
My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are not 
like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on vertical 
surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make sanding them a 
formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be necessary. 
 
  
 
Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try. 
 
  
 
Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!
 
  
 
Charlie Nelson
 
Water Phantom
 
1995 C&C XL/kcb
 
  
 
  
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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[nausetbeach--- via CnC-List]

I seem to recall reading several years ago about using a mild solution of 
oxalic acid to help partially bleach teak to get a more even color.  The teak 
ceilings in the forepeak on my boat are a mess and will require stripping the 
remaining varnish and then attempting to even out the color prior to varnishing 
or using spar polyurethane.  Have heard poly is easier to put on multiple coats 
as it does not need light sanding between coats – the bane of varnishing IMO. 

 

Charlie – please let the list know what you end up doing and how it turns out.  
Being 600+ miles north of you I would guess you will get into this earlier than 
I this spring. 

 

Brian

 

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Subject: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

 

My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago. 

 

I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
over the years--most of which are now sealed. 

 

My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are not 
like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on vertical 
surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make sanding them a 
formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be necessary. 

 

Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try. 

 

Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!

 

Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C&C XL/kcb

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

FWIW, the exposed teak ply on my boat has darkened over time.  If I remove a 
fixture such as a clock, the teak underneath is much lighter.

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

 

That is exactly what we faced as well.  The teak is so light in most places so 
as to throw you off that it is teak at all.  It is still a bit of a work in 
progress for me, but I found that a quick wipe with mineral spirits can, 
depending on the wood condition, actually darken it just enough to then follow 
with the lacquer.  If I need to darken it a bit more (where UV has bleached the 
wood), I would use a little Watco Natural Danish Oil.  Even that, given our 
blonde wood can go a shade darker than I'd like pretty easily.  

 

I can say for sure though that regular varnish was WAY too dark for our 
interior.  I tried it on the nav station top and had to strip it and scrape to 
clean wood and try again.

 

I would be curious to know just how often C&C put out boats with the light 
wood, and if there is a better solution than what I am trying... 

 

Bruce Whitmore
1994 &C 37/40+
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net> 

 

 

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 12:02:18 PM EST, Alan Liles via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

 

 

What color lacquer did you use on your 37/40? My 37/40 has a light lacquer on 
the teak below decks which is nice because it lightens up the interior. My 
problem is matching the existing color when fixing water damage. 

Al Liles

SV Elendil, C&C 37/40+

Vancouver BC

 

 


On Feb 11, 2020, at 3:38 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

My 94 37/40+ did not seem to be oiled, but rather sealed with lacquer.  Using 
lacquer thinner and alcohol is enough to soften it/ use it as a remover.  
Following the with a furniture scraper or equipment was good enough to allow my 
to redcoat with lacquer.

 

 

 

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Subject: Stus-List Interior teak water stains 

 

My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago. 

 

I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
over the years--most of which are now sealed. 

 

My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are not 
like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on vertical 
surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make sanding them a 
formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be necessary. 

 

Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try. 

 

Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!

 

Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C&C XL/kcb

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

That is exactly what we faced as well.  The teak is so light in most places so 
as to throw you off that it is teak at all.  It is still a bit of a work in 
progress for me, but I found that a quick wipe with mineral spirits can, 
depending on the wood condition, actually darken it just enough to then follow 
with the lacquer.  If I need to darken it a bit more (where UV has bleached the 
wood), I would use a little Watco Natural Danish Oil.  Even that, given our 
blonde wood can go a shade darker than I'd like pretty easily.  

I can say for sure though that regular varnish was WAY too dark for our 
interior.  I tried it on the nav station top and had to strip it and scrape to 
clean wood and try again.

I would be curious to know just how often C&C put out boats with the light 
wood, and if there is a better solution than what I am trying... 

Bruce Whitmore
1994 &C 37/40+
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 12:02:18 PM EST, Alan Liles via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 What color lacquer did you use on your 37/40? My 37/40 has a light lacquer on 
the teak below decks which is nice because it lightens up the interior. My 
problem is matching the existing color when fixing water damage. 

Al LilesSV Elendil, C&C 37/40+Vancouver BC


On Feb 11, 2020, at 3:38 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List  
wrote:


My 94 37/40+ did not seem to be oiled, but rather sealed with lacquer.  Using 
lacquer thinner and alcohol is enough to soften it/ use it as a remover.  
Following the with a furniture scraper or equipment was good enough to allow my 
to redcoat with lacquer.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 Original message From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 Date: 2/11/20 5:10 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Stus-List Interior teak 
water stains 
My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.
I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
over the years--most of which are now sealed. 
My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are not 
like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on vertical 
surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make sanding them a 
formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be necessary. 
Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try. 
Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C XL/kcb



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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Alan Liles via CnC-List]

What color lacquer did you use on your 37/40? My 37/40 has a light lacquer on 
the teak below decks which is nice because it lightens up the interior. My 
problem is matching the existing color when fixing water damage. 

Al Liles
SV Elendil, C&C 37/40+
Vancouver BC



> On Feb 11, 2020, at 3:38 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> My 94 37/40+ did not seem to be oiled, but rather sealed with lacquer.  Using 
> lacquer thinner and alcohol is enough to soften it/ use it as a remover.  
> Following the with a furniture scraper or equipment was good enough to allow 
> my to redcoat with lacquer.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
> Date: 2/11/20 5:10 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: cenel...@aol.com
> Subject: Stus-List Interior teak water stains
> 
> My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
> originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.
> 
> I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
> inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
> over the years--most of which are now sealed. 
> 
> My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are 
> not like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on 
> vertical surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make 
> sanding them a formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be 
> necessary. 
> 
> Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
> remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try. 
> 
> Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
> several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
> itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
> most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!
> 
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C XL/kcb
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Thanks for sharing this. I wasn't aware the teak was stained (Watco Danish
Oil - Cherry flavour for those who didn't follow the link), I thought it
was just an oil finish. I used linseed oil on some new teak plywood and it
seems to be fairly close, maybe a bit lighter. I guess I'm just used to the
lighter teak look from growing up with lots of 70s teak furniture... :)
(actually, I have been eyeing a few pieces of old furniture lately,
wondering what I could use it for on the boat if I sawed it up... :)
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 7:49 AM Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I found the blogpost where I described the stain—please find the following
> link:
>
>
> http://dainyrays.blogspot.com/2019/07/summer-in-baltimore-july-4-thru-july-7.html#more
>
>
> Bob
>
> On Feb 12, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Charlie:
>
> After you remove the water stains, I would highly recommend using a stain
> to get all the teak to match in shade.  I was able to buy the original
> stain used in our C&Cs on Amazon.  I’ve mentioned the exact stain and
> provided a link to buy it in my blog some time ago.  I will try to look it
> up and send the info to you...
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
> (Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on
> the ICW in between)
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
>
> On Feb 11, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch
> paint in the head on water stained teak and it worked great.
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I*
> *www.dellabarba.com *
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Charlie Nelson via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:09 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains
>
> My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was
> originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.
>
> I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of
> it inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various
> leaks over the years--most of which are now sealed.
>
> My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they
> are not like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly
> on vertical surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make
> sanding them a formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be
> necessary.
>
> Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the
> remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to
> try.
>
> Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this
> job--putting several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable
> job in itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is
> probably the most important part of the job, could make it virtually
> impossible!
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C XL/kcb
>
>
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> s/v Rainy Days
> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on
> the ICW in between)
> 411 Walnut Street #11447
> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I found the blogpost where I described the stain—please find the following link:

http://dainyrays.blogspot.com/2019/07/summer-in-baltimore-july-4-thru-july-7.html#more
 



Bob

> On Feb 12, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Charlie:
> 
> After you remove the water stains, I would highly recommend using a stain to 
> get all the teak to match in shade.  I was able to buy the original stain 
> used in our C&Cs on Amazon.  I’ve mentioned the exact stain and provided a 
> link to buy it in my blog some time ago.  I will try to look it up and send 
> the info to you...
> 
> Bob
> 
> Bob Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
> (Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the 
> ICW in between)
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com 
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint 
>> in the head on water stained teak and it worked great.
>>  
>>  
>> Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
>> www.dellabarba.com 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:09 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: cenel...@aol.com 
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains
>>  
>> My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
>> originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.
>>  
>> I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
>> inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various 
>> leaks over the years--most of which are now sealed. 
>>  
>> My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are 
>> not like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on 
>> vertical surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make 
>> sanding them a formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be 
>> necessary. 
>>  
>> Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
>> remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to 
>> try. 
>>  
>> Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
>> several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
>> itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
>> most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!
>>  
>> Charlie Nelson
>> Water Phantom
>> 1995 C&C XL/kcb
>>  
>>  
>> ___
>> 
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>> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>> 
>> 
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s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
(Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the ICW 
in between)
411 Walnut Street #11447
Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
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[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Charlie:

After you remove the water stains, I would highly recommend using a stain to 
get all the teak to match in shade.  I was able to buy the original stain used 
in our C&Cs on Amazon.  I’ve mentioned the exact stain and provided a link to 
buy it in my blog some time ago.  I will try to look it up and send the info to 
you...

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the 
ICW in between)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Feb 11, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint 
> in the head on water stained teak and it worked great.
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
> www.dellabarba.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie 
> Nelson via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:09 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: cenel...@aol.com
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains
>  
> My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
> originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.
>  
> I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
> inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
> over the years--most of which are now sealed. 
>  
> My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are 
> not like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on 
> vertical surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make 
> sanding them a formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be 
> necessary. 
>  
> Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
> remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try. 
>  
> Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
> several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
> itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
> most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C XL/kcb
>  
>  
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> 
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> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

My 94 37/40+ did not seem to be oiled, but rather sealed with lacquer.  Using 
lacquer thinner and alcohol is enough to soften it/ use it as a remover.  
Following the with a furniture scraper or equipment was good enough to allow my 
to redcoat with lacquer.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 Date: 2/11/20  5:10 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Stus-List Interior teak 
water stains 
My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.



I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
over the years--most of which are now sealed. 




My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are not 
like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on vertical 
surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make sanding them a 
formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be necessary. 




Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try. 




Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!




Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C&C XL/kcb







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Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Yes, the first thing I thought was “interlux Satin Eggshell White” Leave the 
trim varnished for a very nice look that suits the C&C. 
No idea what to do about water stains. 
Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA 02842

+401 965 5260
https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/



> On Feb 11, 2020, at 17:36, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I too painted part of the head because of staining and it seemed too darn 
> dark.Love the way it looks.  
> 
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
> 
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Della Barba, Joe 
> via CnC-List 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:28:20 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
> Subject: Stus-List Interior teak water stains
>  
> Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint 
> in the head on water stained teak and it worked great.
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
> www.dellabarba.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie 
> Nelson via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:09 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: cenel...@aol.com
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains
>  
> My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
> originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.
>  
> I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
> inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
> over the years--most of which are now sealed. 
>  
> My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are 
> not like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on 
> vertical surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make 
> sanding them a formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be 
> necessary. 
>  
> Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
> remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try. 
>  
> Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
> several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
> itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
> most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C XL/kcb
>  
>  
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[David Risch via CnC-List]

I too painted part of the head because of staining and it seemed too darn dark. 
   Love the way it looks.

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Della Barba, Joe 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:28:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Interior teak water stains


Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch paint in 
the head on water stained teak and it worked great.





Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com







From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie 
Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains



My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was 
originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago.



I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of it 
inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various leaks 
over the years--most of which are now sealed.



My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they are not 
like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly on vertical 
surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make sanding them a 
formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be necessary.



Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the 
remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to try.



Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this job--putting 
several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable job in 
itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is probably the 
most important part of the job, could make it virtually impossible!



Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C&C XL/kcb




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