Re: Stus-List Triple Pole Breaker.

2016-05-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Back in the day some boats used 3 pole breakers on the shore power inlet to 
include the green wire. This has a dangerous failure mode or two, so it should 
no longer be done.
Joe
Coquina

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Subject: Stus-List Triple Pole Breaker.

A friend of mine is replacing a triple pole breaker on his older boat.
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=61868
I know double pole breakers are used to cut out the Neutral and the Hot at the 
same time. This one also has a built-in reverse polarity breaker.
Boes anyone know how is it supposed to be wired ? is the third pole used to 
disconnect the ground ?

Thank You
Ahmet
S/V Tabasco C 25
Winthrop, MA
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Re: Stus-List Triple Pole Breaker.

2016-05-11 Thread Sam Wheeler via CnC-List
I don't know very much about such things, but it sounds like if he is
replacing it anyway and in fact has a 120 volt system, he might want to
consider going with a double pole breaker instead of triple.

Sam
35-3
SF

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Ahmet via CnC-List 
wrote:

> That is what I thought too. I did not think it was wise to disconnect the
> green.
> Thank you, I will let him know
> Ahmet
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Ahmet — a three-pole breaker like that would typically be used on a
>> 240-volt shore power system, which has TWO hots and a neutral.  The breaker
>> would interrupt all three of those, with the ground left untouched.  NEVER
>> DISCONNECT THE SAFETY GROUND!!!
>>
>> If your friend only has a 120-volt system, he only needs to wire two of
>> the three poles.
>>
>> — Fred
>>
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>>
>> On May 11, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Sailnomad via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> A friend of mine is replacing a triple pole breaker on his older boat.
>> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=61868
>> I know double pole breakers are used to cut out the Neutral and the Hot
>> at the same time. This one also has a built-in reverse polarity breaker.
>> Boes anyone know how is it supposed to be wired ? is the third pole used
>> to disconnect the ground ?
>>
>> Thank You
>> Ahmet
>> S/V Tabasco C 25
>> Winthrop, MA
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Triple Pole Breaker.

2016-05-11 Thread Ahmet via CnC-List
That is what I thought too. I did not think it was wise to disconnect the
green.
Thank you, I will let him know
Ahmet


On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ahmet — a three-pole breaker like that would typically be used on a
> 240-volt shore power system, which has TWO hots and a neutral.  The breaker
> would interrupt all three of those, with the ground left untouched.  NEVER
> DISCONNECT THE SAFETY GROUND!!!
>
> If your friend only has a 120-volt system, he only needs to wire two of
> the three poles.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On May 11, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Sailnomad via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> A friend of mine is replacing a triple pole breaker on his older boat.
> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=61868
> I know double pole breakers are used to cut out the Neutral and the Hot at
> the same time. This one also has a built-in reverse polarity breaker.
> Boes anyone know how is it supposed to be wired ? is the third pole used
> to disconnect the ground ?
>
> Thank You
> Ahmet
> S/V Tabasco C 25
> Winthrop, MA
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Triple Pole Breaker.

2016-05-11 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Ahmet — a three-pole breaker like that would typically be used on a 240-volt 
shore power system, which has TWO hots and a neutral.  The breaker would 
interrupt all three of those, with the ground left untouched.  NEVER DISCONNECT 
THE SAFETY GROUND!!!

If your friend only has a 120-volt system, he only needs to wire two of the 
three poles.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On May 11, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Sailnomad via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine is replacing a triple pole breaker on his older boat.
> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=61868 
> 
> I know double pole breakers are used to cut out the Neutral and the Hot at 
> the same time. This one also has a built-in reverse polarity breaker.
> Boes anyone know how is it supposed to be wired ? is the third pole used to 
> disconnect the ground ?
> 
> Thank You
> Ahmet
> S/V Tabasco C 25
> Winthrop, MA
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