Re: Stus-List Winterizing Atomic 4
Rich Winslow Before moving to warmer clime, I removed the thermostat to drain the engine and refill with anti freeze (engine did not have intercooler). This gave me the opportunity to inspect the thermostat and one year, I noticed a spring was broken, so good preventative maintenance. I removed batteries and rested them on 2 x 4's in my heated basement- I understand wet cell batteries lose their charge if left in the cold, and when discharged, they can freeze. I also sprayed fogging oil into the cylinders directly through the spark plug holes. You should be able to purchase it at an auto parts supply store. It's inexpensive and a can lasts for years. My Atomic 4 had an updraft carb. and there is no way to pour oil down it. Plus, fogging oil is made for this purpose, motor oil isn't. Running the engine while pouring oil into the intake would produce a lot of carbon, which might eventually gum it up, not to mention the air pollution burning oil causes. -Original Message- From: cnc-list-request cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 12:16 pm Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2 I own a 1979 34 CC which has an Atomic 4 engine. I decided to winterize my boat myself this year rather than hire someone to do it. I tried to follow the instructions in the manual for draining the engine and putting in plumber's anti freeze. Also, I would like to know what other owners of CC's with Atomic 4 engines do when they winterize in terms of taking out the batteries or if they disconnect them etc. Also, what else should be done to winterize my boat other than following the Atomic 4 manual and the CC Owners's Manual. Do most owners fog the engine by pouring oil into the carburetor. If so, do they use SAE HD 30 engine oil. Any advice would be very helpful. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141101/d92dda97/attachment-0001.html -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Winterizing Atomic 4
Is there no way to shoot the fogging oil directly into the carb throat? Most fogging oils direct to run the engine up to temp, then take the air cleaner off and spray the fogging oil in the throat for ~5sec. Immediately stop the engine while still spraying. Then remove the spark plugs and put a spray in each cylinder. Roll the engine slowly by hand. Reinstall the plugs (antiseize, grease on the boots and torque). Shut off the fuel and drain the carb. Josh On Nov 2, 2014 8:56 AM, Rich Winslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Rich Winslow Before moving to warmer clime, I removed the thermostat to drain the engine and refill with anti freeze (engine did not have intercooler). This gave me the opportunity to inspect the thermostat and one year, I noticed a spring was broken, so good preventative maintenance. I removed batteries and rested them on 2 x 4's in my heated basement- I understand wet cell batteries lose their charge if left in the cold, and when discharged, they can freeze. I also sprayed fogging oil into the cylinders directly through the spark plug holes. You should be able to purchase it at an auto parts supply store. It's inexpensive and a can lasts for years. My Atomic 4 had an updraft carb. and there is no way to pour oil down it. Plus, fogging oil is made for this purpose, motor oil isn't. Running the engine while pouring oil into the intake would produce a lot of carbon, which might eventually gum it up, not to mention the air pollution burning oil causes. -Original Message- From: cnc-list-request cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 12:16 pm Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2 I own a 1979 34 CC which has an Atomic 4 engine. I decided to winterize my boat myself this year rather than hire someone to do it. I tried to follow the instructions in the manual for draining the engine and putting in plumber's anti freeze. Also, I would like to know what other owners of CC's with Atomic 4 engines do when they winterize in terms of taking out the batteries or if they disconnect them etc. Also, what else should be done to winterize my boat other than following the Atomic 4 manual and the CC Owners's Manual. Do most owners fog the engine by pouring oil into the carburetor. If so, do they use SAE HD 30 engine oil. Any advice would be very helpful. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141101/d92dda97/attachment-0001.html -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Winterizing Atomic 4
Hi Rich,and all, I understand wet cell batteries lose their charge if left in the cold This is pretty much exactly backward. Wet storage batteries hold their charge better, longer, the colder it is. Fully charge them, pull one cable off each battery so there is no possibility of discharge through ship's systems and leave them where they are. Top them up with the charger in the spring when it is warm and you're good to go. They won't need much. Supporting article: http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/self_discharge or this one: http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/carfaq13.htm Quote: Store in a cold dry place, but not so that it will freeze... Which, if you have a fully charged battery is about 77 degrees below zero... Approximate State-of-Charge (SoC) Approximate Depth-of-Discharge (DoD) Approximate Electrolyte Freeze Point 100% 0% -77°F (-67°C) 75% 25% -35°F (-37°C) Ken H. On 2 November 2014 09:56, Rich Winslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Rich Winslow I removed batteries and rested them on 2 x 4's in my heated basement- I understand wet cell batteries lose their charge if left in the cold, and when discharged, they can freeze. -Original Message- From: cnc-list-request cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 12:16 pm Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Winterizing Atomic 4
+1 for Ken In my experience Ken is right on the money. I never store my batteries inside during the winter. I put them up fully charged and disconnected and they are always near fully charged in the spring. They also last longer than their warranties. Been doing that for 40 years. There is also of course science to back up that statement. It is a waste of time and significant energy to remove your batteries from the boat for the winter. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 11:21 AM To: Rich Winslow; cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Atomic 4 Hi Rich,and all, I understand wet cell batteries lose their charge if left in the cold This is pretty much exactly backward. Wet storage batteries hold their charge better, longer, the colder it is. Fully charge them, pull one cable off each battery so there is no possibility of discharge through ship's systems and leave them where they are. Top them up with the charger in the spring when it is warm and you're good to go. They won't need much. Supporting article: http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/self_discharge or this one: http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/carfaq13.htm Quote: Store in a cold dry place, but not so that it will freeze... Which, if you have a fully charged battery is about 77 degrees below zero... Approximate State-of-Charge (SoC) Approximate Depth-of-Discharge (DoD) Approximate Electrolyte Freeze Point 100% 0% -77°F (-67°C) 75% 25% -35°F (-37°C) Ken H. On 2 November 2014 09:56, Rich Winslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Rich Winslow I removed batteries and rested them on 2 x 4's in my heated basement- I understand wet cell batteries lose their charge if left in the cold, and when discharged, they can freeze. -Original Message- From: cnc-list-request cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 12:16 pm Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Winterizing Atomic 4
Bernard. If you have questions just give them a call. Looks like there are a lot of options for your thermostat and housing. www. http://www.moyermarine.com/ moyermarine.com/ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 11:21 AM To: Rich Winslow; cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Atomic 4 Hi Rich,and all, I understand wet cell batteries lose their charge if left in the cold This is pretty much exactly backward. Wet storage batteries hold their charge better, longer, the colder it is. Fully charge them, pull one cable off each battery so there is no possibility of discharge through ship's systems and leave them where they are. Top them up with the charger in the spring when it is warm and you're good to go. They won't need much. Supporting article: http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/self_discharge or this one: http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/carfaq13.htm Quote: Store in a cold dry place, but not so that it will freeze... Which, if you have a fully charged battery is about 77 degrees below zero... Approximate State-of-Charge (SoC) Approximate Depth-of-Discharge (DoD) Approximate Electrolyte Freeze Point 100% 0% -77°F (-67°C) 75% 25% -35°F (-37°C) Ken H. On 2 November 2014 09:56, Rich Winslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Rich Winslow I removed batteries and rested them on 2 x 4's in my heated basement- I understand wet cell batteries lose their charge if left in the cold, and when discharged, they can freeze. -Original Message- From: cnc-list-request cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 12:16 pm Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
