Re: Stus-List suspect autopilot- RD II

[D Harben via CnC-List]

A handheld VHF or magnetic knife can put your autopilot into an alcoholic 
stupor as you move around  been there done that one LOL

A treasured sailing knife has been relegated to a mast pouch...

The VHF handheld is in my waist/thigh kit with gps and delorme tracker I 
have been removing the kit as I came aft.  I am sure if there is a non magnetic 
handheld VHF. 

Don

> On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Kim Brown via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Per the crowd view I disconnected the motor and turned things on and the
> control heads and other instruments came up fine. Connection seemed fine
> without corrosion. Put a meter to the motor lead and hit auto and then a
> course change.  Volts came out and nothing popped. Reconnected the lead to
> the motor. and engaged the autopilot and it responded appropriately.  Motor
> seemed fine. So now the mystery deepens- moisture get in somewhere and short
> things out and then dry out? Is this time related - after an hour or so
> motor heats up and dies. Motor/ belt unit just binding in a bad spot and
> after disconnecting letting sit etc. it is all better? Will not get a chance
> to give it a real work out for a couple of weeks. Worrying to have it
> randomly dying.  We often use it and a couple of times a year for hours
> (think overnight from Key West). Guess we'll see.
> 
> Kim
> TrustMe!!! 35-3
> 
> 
> All,
> The weekend's project is to trace down the dead autopilot. Looking for ideas
> about likely suspects to prioritize the process. Standard Raymarine
> Wheelpilot- X5? Been working great for years. Chugging up the river trying
> to beat the rain last Sunday after a weekend out and it died. Actual symptom
> is the breaker blew so the depth, wind, speed and auto went dark. After
> getting back on course, had the Admiral flip the breaker and all the units
> came back including right heading numbers on the auto pilot but engaging the
> autopilot did nothing (not even a whimper out of the motor)  except blow the
> breaker again. So we hand steered home and left the issue for another day.
> Shorted wires, dead motor, or ?  Worked fine going out and halfway back. No
> event- (wake, rain, course change) it just stopped. It was not working hard.
> Anyone have any ideas on what voltages I should see where.  There is a
> rudder position indicator in the mix. Looking for a 'Mine did that and it
> was the "
> Thanks
> Kim Brown
> TrustMe!!! 35-3
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List suspect autopilot

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Kim,

Been a while since I installed  or worked on an X-5 but two thoughts occur
to me, bad motor or binding in the SportDrive.  Here's how I'd troubleshoot
it.

First, take the motor out of the system.  I forget if you can just pull the
power cable of the back or not.  If not, find a place to disconnect it.  I
think they are brown and blue wires connected to the controller on the
connection marked "Motor".  Flip the break on.  If everything looks good,
the motor may be fried or the belt/clutch maybe stuck so the motor won't
turn.

To test the motor, disengage the clutch, put 12 volts on the two wires.  If
the motor spins freely, swap the wires and see if it spins freely in the
other direction.  If so, then something in the SportDrive is binding and
putting excessive load on the motor.

Fred or Rich might have a different technique.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Kim Brown via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> All,
> The weekend's project is to trace down the dead autopilot. Looking for
> ideas
> about likely suspects to prioritize the process. Standard Raymarine
> Wheelpilot- X5? Been working great for years. Chugging up the river trying
> to beat the rain last Sunday after a weekend out and it died. Actual
> symptom
> is the breaker blew so the depth, wind, speed and auto went dark. After
> getting back on course, had the Admiral flip the breaker and all the units
> came back including right heading numbers on the auto pilot but engaging
> the
> autopilot did nothing (not even a whimper out of the motor)  except blow
> the
> breaker again. So we hand steered home and left the issue for another day.
> Shorted wires, dead motor, or ?  Worked fine going out and halfway back. No
> event- (wake, rain, course change) it just stopped. It was not working
> hard.
> Anyone have any ideas on what voltages I should see where.  There is a
> rudder position indicator in the mix. Looking for a 'Mine did that and it
> was the "
> Thanks
> Kim Brown
> TrustMe!!! 35-3
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List suspect autopilot

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Joel,

Are you implying that Fred Street and others on 
this list do not actually know what they are talking about? :)


Cheers, Russ


At 12:05 PM 19/09/2014, you wrote:
There is a separate power cable to the computer. 
 I'd disconnect it or the power cable to the 
display to isolate the problem. Â


Or call Ray or post on their forum and talk to 
someone who actually knows what they are talking about.


Joel
35/3
Annapolis

On Friday, September 19, 2014, Kim Brown via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


All,
The weekend's project is to trace down the dead autopilot. Looking for ideas
about likely suspects to prioritize the process. Standard Raymarine
Wheelpilot- X5? Been working great for years. Chugging up the river trying
to beat the rain last Sunday after a weekend out and it died. Actual symptom
is the breaker blew so the depth, wind, speed and auto went dark. After
getting back on course, had the Admiral flip the breaker and all the units
came back including right heading numbers on the auto pilot but engaging the
autopilot did nothing (not even a whimper out of the motor)Â  except blow the
breaker again. So we hand steered home and left the issue for another day.
Shorted wires, dead motor, or ?  Worked fine going out and halfway back. No
event- (wake, rain, course change) it just stopped. It was not working hard.
Anyone have any ideas on what voltages I should see where.  There is a
rudder position indicator in the mix. Looking for a 'Mine did that and it
was the "
Thanks
Kim Brown
TrustMe!!! 35-3



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Re: Stus-List suspect autopilot

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Kim — it sounds like the drive motor may have frozen up; when you try to engage 
it, it draws too much current and pops the breaker.

If you disconnect the drive from the control head, you should be able to make 
it turn by applying 12 volts across the two leads; the direction it turns will 
be determined by the polarity when you hook it up.  If this doesn’t work, or if 
you pop the fuse you of course put in line with the +12V lead, then the drive 
motor is probably dead.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Kim Brown via CnC-List  
wrote:

> 
> All, 
> The weekend's project is to trace down the dead autopilot. Looking for ideas
> about likely suspects to prioritize the process. Standard Raymarine
> Wheelpilot- X5? Been working great for years. Chugging up the river trying
> to beat the rain last Sunday after a weekend out and it died. Actual symptom
> is the breaker blew so the depth, wind, speed and auto went dark. After
> getting back on course, had the Admiral flip the breaker and all the units
> came back including right heading numbers on the auto pilot but engaging the
> autopilot did nothing (not even a whimper out of the motor)  except blow the
> breaker again. So we hand steered home and left the issue for another day.
> Shorted wires, dead motor, or ?  Worked fine going out and halfway back. No
> event- (wake, rain, course change) it just stopped. It was not working hard.
> Anyone have any ideas on what voltages I should see where.  There is a
> rudder position indicator in the mix. Looking for a 'Mine did that and it
> was the " 
> Thanks
> Kim Brown
> TrustMe!!! 35-3
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Re: Stus-List suspect autopilot

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

There is a separate power cable to the computer.  I'd disconnect it or the
power cable to the display to isolate the problem.

Or call Ray or post on their forum and talk to someone who actually knows
what they are talking about.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis

On Friday, September 19, 2014, Kim Brown via CnC-List 
wrote:

>
> All,
> The weekend's project is to trace down the dead autopilot. Looking for
> ideas
> about likely suspects to prioritize the process. Standard Raymarine
> Wheelpilot- X5? Been working great for years. Chugging up the river trying
> to beat the rain last Sunday after a weekend out and it died. Actual
> symptom
> is the breaker blew so the depth, wind, speed and auto went dark. After
> getting back on course, had the Admiral flip the breaker and all the units
> came back including right heading numbers on the auto pilot but engaging
> the
> autopilot did nothing (not even a whimper out of the motor)  except blow
> the
> breaker again. So we hand steered home and left the issue for another day.
> Shorted wires, dead motor, or ?  Worked fine going out and halfway back. No
> event- (wake, rain, course change) it just stopped. It was not working
> hard.
> Anyone have any ideas on what voltages I should see where.  There is a
> rudder position indicator in the mix. Looking for a 'Mine did that and it
> was the "
> Thanks
> Kim Brown
> TrustMe!!! 35-3
>
>
>
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