Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-23 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
I would ask a yanmar dealer. Years ago I put 10w-40, instead of 15w-40 in a VW 
diesel and destroyed the engine within 1000 miles. Short term 5 hours it should 
be ok but I am not an expert.  


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Stus-List synthetic oil 
I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when old 
oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no time 
to get regular oil. 

Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic

Is this an issue?

Yanmar 3gm30f
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-23 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Mike, there are SAE ratings for oil.  Most modern oils have ratings that
supercede the ratings of the oil for when the boat/engine was built.  I've
only ever run Amsoil HD & Marine Diesel synthetic 15w40 in my 3HM35F.  No
problems.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Jul 23, 2017 11:45 AM, "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" 
wrote:

I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when
old oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and
no time to get regular oil.

Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic

Is this an issue?

Yanmar 3gm30f
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-23 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
If it is the correct grade and has the minimum rating requirements there is no 
reason
to replace it. Synthetic oil could also be described as better filtered / 
refined / processed
regular oil and its only drawback in most applications is that it is expensive.

In an application where the oil stays clean, no ring leakage or maybe a natural 
gas conversion,
synthetic oils could last for 15,000+ miles between changes and come closer to 
cost effective.
I doubt you would want the same oil in a marine diesel for that many seasons.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 15:45:08 + 
From: "Hoyt, Mike"  

I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when old 
oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no time 
to get regular oil.  
 
Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic 
 
Is this an issue? 
 
Yanmar 3gm30f 
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-23 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Mike,

There are some reports that synthetic oil may dissolve some of the residues 
left on different parts, which may lead to sudden increase of the oil usage. Of 
course, this applies to older engines. The general rule of thumb is that if you 
used non-synthetic oils in the past (and did it for years) you may want to stay 
with the same kind. If you used synthetics, there should be no issue switching 
to non-synthetic.

My personal experience is limited to a single car in the past, where I changed 
from normal to synthetic (the car was driven hard) and I ended up with an 
engine that burned about 1-1.5 l (1-2 qt.) of oil for 1000 km.

I don't believe that you could use oil that is "too good" for the engine. As 
long as it is the same grade, it should work fine.

In your case I would monitor how much oil is staying in the engine (and how 
much you burn).

Good luck

Marek
1994 C270 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON

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Subject: Stus-List synthetic oil

I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when old 
oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no time 
to get regular oil. 

Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic

Is this an issue?

Yanmar 3gm30f
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-23 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
The concern is that synthetic (with their detergents) will clean out the ring 
grooves and cause excessive blow-by and increase oil burn.
Regular diesel oils - even single weight oils - have had detergent additives 
for many years. Certainly since I was an apprentice (in the '60's). So unless 
the Yanmar is pre '60's, I wouldn't be too concerned.
Most of this concern stems from gas engine experience, where detergent 
additives came much later and there has been real experiences of gas engines 
loosing compression after a change to synthetic.

Sam Salter
CandC 26  Liquorice 
Ghost Lake Alberta 


> On Jul 23, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> There are some reports that synthetic oil may dissolve some of the residues 
> left on different parts, which may lead to sudden increase of the oil usage. 
> Of course, this applies to older engines. The general rule of thumb is that 
> if you used non-synthetic oils in the past (and did it for years) you may 
> want to stay with the same kind. If you used synthetics, there should be no 
> issue switching to non-synthetic.
> 
> My personal experience is limited to a single car in the past, where I 
> changed from normal to synthetic (the car was driven hard) and I ended up 
> with an engine that burned about 1-1.5 l (1-2 qt.) of oil for 1000 km.
> 
> I don't believe that you could use oil that is "too good" for the engine. As 
> long as it is the same grade, it should work fine.
> 
> In your case I would monitor how much oil is staying in the engine (and how 
> much you burn).
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Marek
> 1994 C270 "Legato"
> Ottawa, ON
> 
> -Original Message-
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> via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 11:45
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
> Subject: Stus-List synthetic oil
> 
> I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when 
> old oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no 
> time to get regular oil. 
> 
> Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic
> 
> Is this an issue?
> 
> Yanmar 3gm30f
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-23 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Thank you everyone. We ran the engine a little over an hour and then at dock I 
drained the synthetic and replaced filter and oil with the usual non synthetic. 
I believe that a flush with clean oil in this manner is good for the engine 
anyway

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

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Sent: July 23, 2017 9:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Sam Salter
Subject: Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

The concern is that synthetic (with their detergents) will clean out the ring 
grooves and cause excessive blow-by and increase oil burn.
Regular diesel oils - even single weight oils - have had detergent additives 
for many years. Certainly since I was an apprentice (in the '60's). So unless 
the Yanmar is pre '60's, I wouldn't be too concerned.
Most of this concern stems from gas engine experience, where detergent 
additives came much later and there has been real experiences of gas engines 
loosing compression after a change to synthetic.

Sam Salter
CandC 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta


> On Jul 23, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> There are some reports that synthetic oil may dissolve some of the residues 
> left on different parts, which may lead to sudden increase of the oil usage. 
> Of course, this applies to older engines. The general rule of thumb is that 
> if you used non-synthetic oils in the past (and did it for years) you may 
> want to stay with the same kind. If you used synthetics, there should be no 
> issue switching to non-synthetic.
>
> My personal experience is limited to a single car in the past, where I 
> changed from normal to synthetic (the car was driven hard) and I ended up 
> with an engine that burned about 1-1.5 l (1-2 qt.) of oil for 1000 km.
>
> I don't believe that you could use oil that is "too good" for the engine. As 
> long as it is the same grade, it should work fine.
>
> In your case I would monitor how much oil is staying in the engine (and how 
> much you burn).
>
> Good luck
>
> Marek
> 1994 C270 "Legato"
> Ottawa, ON
>
> -Original Message-
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> via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 11:45
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
> Subject: Stus-List synthetic oil
>
> I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when 
> old oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no 
> time to get regular oil.
>
> Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic
>
> Is this an issue?
>
> Yanmar 3gm30f
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-24 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
A couple of mechanics have told me this as well.  If an older car has been 
using non-synthetic, then never change to synthetic since it might start leaks 
that didn't exist before.That said, most of our diesels never get the hours on 
the engine that an auto/truck get so it might be a moot point.RonWild CheriC&C 
30-1STL


  From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List synthetic oil
   
Mike,

There are some reports that synthetic oil may dissolve some of the residues 
left on different parts, which may lead to sudden increase of the oil usage. Of 
course, this applies to older engines. The general rule of thumb is that if you 
used non-synthetic oils in the past (and did it for years) you may want to stay 
with the same kind. If you used synthetics, there should be no issue switching 
to non-synthetic.

My personal experience is limited to a single car in the past, where I changed 
from normal to synthetic (the car was driven hard) and I ended up with an 
engine that burned about 1-1.5 l (1-2 qt.) of oil for 1000 km.

I don't believe that you could use oil that is "too good" for the engine. As 
long as it is the same grade, it should work fine.

In your case I would monitor how much oil is staying in the engine (and how 
much you burn).

Good luck

Marek
1994 C270 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON

-Original Message-
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via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 11:45
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Stus-List synthetic oil

I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when old 
oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no time 
to get regular oil. 

Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic

Is this an issue?

Yanmar 3gm30f
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-24 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Based on risk/reward, a wise choice.  High potential risk; low reward.Ron


  From: "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: "Hoyt, Mike" 
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List synthetic oil
   
Thank you everyone. We ran the engine a little over an hour and then at dock I 
drained the synthetic and replaced filter and oil with the usual non synthetic. 
I believe that a flush with clean oil in this manner is good for the engine 
anyway

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Sam Salter via 
CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: July 23, 2017 9:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Sam Salter
Subject: Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

The concern is that synthetic (with their detergents) will clean out the ring 
grooves and cause excessive blow-by and increase oil burn.
Regular diesel oils - even single weight oils - have had detergent additives 
for many years. Certainly since I was an apprentice (in the '60's). So unless 
the Yanmar is pre '60's, I wouldn't be too concerned.
Most of this concern stems from gas engine experience, where detergent 
additives came much later and there has been real experiences of gas engines 
loosing compression after a change to synthetic.

Sam Salter
CandC 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta


> On Jul 23, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> There are some reports that synthetic oil may dissolve some of the residues 
> left on different parts, which may lead to sudden increase of the oil usage. 
> Of course, this applies to older engines. The general rule of thumb is that 
> if you used non-synthetic oils in the past (and did it for years) you may 
> want to stay with the same kind. If you used synthetics, there should be no 
> issue switching to non-synthetic.
>
> My personal experience is limited to a single car in the past, where I 
> changed from normal to synthetic (the car was driven hard) and I ended up 
> with an engine that burned about 1-1.5 l (1-2 qt.) of oil for 1000 km.
>
> I don't believe that you could use oil that is "too good" for the engine. As 
> long as it is the same grade, it should work fine.
>
> In your case I would monitor how much oil is staying in the engine (and how 
> much you burn).
>
> Good luck
>
> Marek
> 1994 C270 "Legato"
> Ottawa, ON
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 11:45
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
> Subject: Stus-List synthetic oil
>
> I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when 
> old oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no 
> time to get regular oil.
>
> Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic
>
> Is this an issue?
>
> Yanmar 3gm30f
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-24 Thread PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List
Question  why would changing from 10w30 to 15w40. Destroy a Diesel vw engine?

My westerbeke 33 owner Manuel says 10w30 but previous owner had 15w40.  Should 
I go back to 10w30?   

Thanks

Peter
Goonie island 
C&c 40 
Portland me 

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> On Jul 24, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> A couple of mechanics have told me this as well.  If an older car has been 
> using non-synthetic, then never change to synthetic since it might start 
> leaks that didn't exist before.
> That said, most of our diesels never get the hours on the engine that an 
> auto/truck get so it might be a moot point.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
> 
> 
> 
> From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
> Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List synthetic oil
> 
> Mike,
> 
> There are some reports that synthetic oil may dissolve some of the residues 
> left on different parts, which may lead to sudden increase of the oil usage. 
> Of course, this applies to older engines. The general rule of thumb is that 
> if you used non-synthetic oils in the past (and did it for years) you may 
> want to stay with the same kind. If you used synthetics, there should be no 
> issue switching to non-synthetic.
> 
> My personal experience is limited to a single car in the past, where I 
> changed from normal to synthetic (the car was driven hard) and I ended up 
> with an engine that burned about 1-1.5 l (1-2 qt.) of oil for 1000 km.
> 
> I don't believe that you could use oil that is "too good" for the engine. As 
> long as it is the same grade, it should work fine.
> 
> In your case I would monitor how much oil is staying in the engine (and how 
> much you burn).
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Marek
> 1994 C270 "Legato"
> Ottawa, ON
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 11:45
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
> Subject: Stus-List synthetic oil
> 
> I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when 
> old oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no 
> time to get regular oil. 
> 
> Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic
> 
> Is this an issue?
> 
> Yanmar 3gm30f
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-24 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
Peter, the 10w-40 did not have the ash content required by the VW diesel 
engine. At least that was what I was told. That was also 25 years ago. 


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 Date: 7/24/17  10:31  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: PETER OCAMPO  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List synthetic oil 
Question  why would changing from 10w30 to 15w40. Destroy a Diesel vw engine?
My westerbeke 33 owner Manuel says 10w30 but previous owner had 15w40.  Should 
I go back to 10w30?   
Thanks
PeterGoonie island C&c 40 Portland me 

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On Jul 24, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
 wrote:

A couple of mechanics have told me this as well.  If an older car has been 
using non-synthetic, then never change to synthetic since it might start leaks 
that didn't exist before.That said, most of our diesels never get the hours on 
the engine that an auto/truck get so it might be a moot point.RonWild CheriC&C 
30-1STL


   From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List synthetic oil
   
Mike,

There are some reports that synthetic oil may dissolve some of the residues 
left on different parts, which may lead to sudden increase of the oil usage. Of 
course, this applies to older engines. The general rule of thumb is that if you 
used non-synthetic oils in the past (and did it for years) you may want to stay 
with the same kind. If you used synthetics, there should be no issue switching 
to non-synthetic.

My personal experience is limited to a single car in the past, where I changed 
from normal to synthetic (the car was driven hard) and I ended up with an 
engine that burned about 1-1.5 l (1-2 qt.) of oil for 1000 km.

I don't believe that you could use oil that is "too good" for the engine. As 
long as it is the same grade, it should work fine.

In your case I would monitor how much oil is staying in the engine (and how 
much you burn).

Good luck

Marek
1994 C270 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 11:45
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Stus-List synthetic oil

I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when old 
oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no time 
to get regular oil. 

Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic

Is this an issue?

Yanmar 3gm30f
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Re: Stus-List synthetic oil

2017-07-24 Thread PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List
Thanks doug learn something new every day 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:38 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Peter, the 10w-40 did not have the ash content required by the VW diesel 
> engine. At least that was what I was told. That was also 25 years ago. 
> 
> 
> 
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> Doug Mountjoy 
> POYC 
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>  Original message 
> From: PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List 
> Date: 7/24/17 10:31 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: PETER OCAMPO 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List synthetic oil
> 
> Question  why would changing from 10w30 to 15w40. Destroy a Diesel vw engine?
> 
> My westerbeke 33 owner Manuel says 10w30 but previous owner had 15w40.  
> Should I go back to 10w30?   
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
> Goonie island 
> C&c 40 
> Portland me 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A couple of mechanics have told me this as well.  If an older car has been 
>> using non-synthetic, then never change to synthetic since it might start 
>> leaks that didn't exist before.
>> That said, most of our diesels never get the hours on the engine that an 
>> auto/truck get so it might be a moot point.
>> Ron
>> Wild Cheri
>> C&C 30-1
>> STL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
>> Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List synthetic oil
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> There are some reports that synthetic oil may dissolve some of the residues 
>> left on different parts, which may lead to sudden increase of the oil usage. 
>> Of course, this applies to older engines. The general rule of thumb is that 
>> if you used non-synthetic oils in the past (and did it for years) you may 
>> want to stay with the same kind. If you used synthetics, there should be no 
>> issue switching to non-synthetic.
>> 
>> My personal experience is limited to a single car in the past, where I 
>> changed from normal to synthetic (the car was driven hard) and I ended up 
>> with an engine that burned about 1-1.5 l (1-2 qt.) of oil for 1000 km.
>> 
>> I don't believe that you could use oil that is "too good" for the engine. As 
>> long as it is the same grade, it should work fine.
>> 
>> In your case I would monitor how much oil is staying in the engine (and how 
>> much you burn).
>> 
>> Good luck
>> 
>> Marek
>> 1994 C270 "Legato"
>> Ottawa, ON
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, 
>> Mike via CnC-List
>> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 11:45
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
>> Subject: Stus-List synthetic oil
>> 
>> I had my brother pick up 15w40 for me last week. Changed oil today and when 
>> old oil drained realized he bought synthetic 15w40. Have outing today and no 
>> time to get regular oil. 
>> 
>> Plan to drain and change later this week to non synthetic
>> 
>> Is this an issue?
>> 
>> Yanmar 3gm30f
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