Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

2018-07-14 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
The reason that the rating is at 25 amps specifically is that 25 amps is the 
typical rate of consumption for a car with a defective alternator or a missing 
fan belt. The 25 amp hour rating is an indication of how long you can drive 
your car before it quits operating altogether if one of the above failures 
occurs. 

 

SAE (society of Automotive Engineers) adopted the 25 amp rate as a standard for 
that reason 4 or 5 decades ago.

 

It’s strange the things you remember after years and years in the automotive 
industry.

 

Rick Brass

BSME from General Motors Institute, among other arcane things.

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

 

Yup – 1 amp for one hour is 1 AH.

There is a reason for the 25 amp rate. A 200 amp hour battery will, in theory, 
provide 200 amps for 1 hour or 1 amp for 200 hours. In real life that does not 
work, at 200 amps you would get less than one hour and at 1 amp you would get 
more than 200 hours. Without the 25 amp rate a creative ad writer might 
advertise a 200 AH battery as a 240 AH battery (at 1 amp LOL )

 

Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

 

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

 

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours. 

 

Doug Mountjoy 

Rebecca Leah 

LF39 

Port Orchard YC, WA.

 

 

 

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Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps... 

 

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.  

Thanks in advance.  

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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

2018-07-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
One reason people like traction batteries (golf cart, floor sweeper, etc) is 
that they have decent life down to 80% discharge. A start battery like a car 
battery will die very quickly cycled like that.
Joe

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Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

And keep in mind that the 190 AH rating is just the rating. You will probably 
be able to use half of that on a regular basis (or you would murder the 
battery).

Marek

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Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

Yup – 1 amp for one hour is 1 AH.
There is a reason for the 25 amp rate. A 200 amp hour battery will, in theory, 
provide 200 amps for 1 hour or 1 amp for 200 hours. In real life that does not 
work, at 200 amps you would get less than one hour and at 1 amp you would get 
more than 200 hours. Without the 25 amp rate a creative ad writer might 
advertise a 200 AH battery as a 240 AH battery (at 1 amp LOL )

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours.

Doug Mountjoy
Rebecca Leah
LF39
Port Orchard YC, WA.



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From: David via CnC-List 
Date: 7/12/18 15:13 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David 
Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

2018-07-13 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
And keep in mind that the 190 AH rating is just the rating. You will probably 
be able to use half of that on a regular basis (or you would murder the 
battery).

Marek

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Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

Yup – 1 amp for one hour is 1 AH.
There is a reason for the 25 amp rate. A 200 amp hour battery will, in theory, 
provide 200 amps for 1 hour or 1 amp for 200 hours. In real life that does not 
work, at 200 amps you would get less than one hour and at 1 amp you would get 
more than 200 hours. Without the 25 amp rate a creative ad writer might 
advertise a 200 AH battery as a 240 AH battery (at 1 amp LOL )

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours.

Doug Mountjoy
Rebecca Leah
LF39
Port Orchard YC, WA.



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From: David via CnC-List 
Date: 7/12/18 15:13 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David 
Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

2018-07-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Forgot to add:
CCA is cold cranking amps – the max current you can get (briefly) into a dead 
short at 0 degrees F.
MCCA is marine cold cranking amps – the same thing at 32 degrees F.
A small lithium battery can have hundreds of cranking amps while only being 
about 10 AH.

Joe

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours.

Doug Mountjoy
Rebecca Leah
LF39
Port Orchard YC, WA.



 Original message 
From: David via CnC-List 
Date: 7/12/18 15:13 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David 
Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

2018-07-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Yup – 1 amp for one hour is 1 AH.
There is a reason for the 25 amp rate. A 200 amp hour battery will, in theory, 
provide 200 amps for 1 hour or 1 amp for 200 hours. In real life that does not 
work, at 200 amps you would get less than one hour and at 1 amp you would get 
more than 200 hours. Without the 25 amp rate a creative ad writer might 
advertise a 200 AH battery as a 240 AH battery (at 1 amp LOL )

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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svrebeccaleah via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svrebeccaleah
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours.

Doug Mountjoy
Rebecca Leah
LF39
Port Orchard YC, WA.



 Original message 
From: David via CnC-List 
Date: 7/12/18 15:13 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David 
Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.
Thanks in advance.
Get Outlook for Android

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