Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

Call William keener 919.395.8761He's the painter, etc, etcJim Schwartz SEA YA! 
(Currently for sale)38 landfall Washington nc Sent from my Verizon, Samsung 
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 Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 Date: 3/12/20  3:17 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Della Barba, Joe"  Subject: 
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL]   Re:  Painted/Awlgrip Hulls 

Wow – I don’t think I have got an estimate around here under 12-15K for a 35 
foot boat. That would be worth going to NC to get done!
 
 
Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com
 
 
 


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On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 1:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls


 

I had Imzadi painted in the early spring of 2017 - almost exactly 3 years ago. 
On the recommendation of the guy who does most of th ework I can't do myself, 
we used
 Alexseal 2-part paint. Alexseal is an alternative to Awlgrip or Imron. William 
reports very good results, and uses it for most of the paintwork he does. Comes 
on a pretty wide range of colors, one of which was a bit darker than the faded 
smoke white of Imzadi's
 hull and might be a close match to the original C&C color. One big advantage 
of the Alexseal paint is that it is about half the cost of Awlgrip. My cost for 
getting the boat prepped and painted (white topsides, triple red boot stripe, 
red cove stripe, red
 transom) was $125/foot - about $4800.

 


The paint has held up very well. Have had some black streaks from black 
rubstrips on an floating dock that washed right off. Had one scratch from a 
bolthead sticking
 out of a piling, which turned out to be an easy repair using some surplus from 
the original paint. The red transom shows no signs of fading yet.


 


Maintenance is to wash every 3 to 6 months with mild soap and water, and to 
wash annually with a product they sell which I presume is similar to Awlcare. 
BTW, the
 Alexseal website also lists other alternatives to their maintenance product - 
one of which I recall is made by Meguiars and is available from my local West 
Marine.


 


In all honesty, there was one small problem when the boat was painted. When 
they sprayed the red for the boot stripes and cove stripes over the white hull, 
the thin
 red paint leached under the edge of the green 3M masking tape amd left a fuzzy 
edge. So William had to touch up the white, remask the stripes with this 
fiendishly expensive 3M gold masking tape, and reshoot the red stripes. No  
problem using the higher quality
 tape.


 


Rick Brass


Washington, NC



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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

First, knowing me and my somewhat casual approach to docking, I eschewed
AwlGrip and choose AwlCraft 2000 instead.  It is more easily repairable.

Second, I managed to get Touche' professionally painted for about $4400 in
2011 by doing most the sanding and prep myself.  I lightly sanded,
degreased and prepped a small area for my painter to spray.  He was
painting a nearby boat with white AwlCraft.  When he sprayed the prepped
area, we saw crazy results.  Different layers of old paint reacted
differently.  In some areas the new paint beaded up.  In others, it
dissolved the old paint and made a nasty pink color.

The painter and I knew right away all the old paint had to be sanded off.
I completely removed several coats of old paint using a Hutchins 2000
straight line sander.  Do NOT use a disc sander.  It will gouge the hull.
You must use a straight line sander for best results.  Took me 1 day per
side.

The pro painter shot 3 coats of high build primer then the AwlCraft.  Still
looks good.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:17 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Wow – I don’t think I have got an estimate around here under 12-15K for a
> 35 foot boat. That would be worth going to NC to get done!
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[John McCrea via CnC-List]

Other point is that with Awlgrip is not really repairable. We sprayed our wed 
night boat, a 1979 J 24, with Awlgrip about four years ago and have had to make 
some repairs since. 

 

I hear that Alexseal is much easier to work with if you need to do a repair. At 
some point we are going to get Talisman our 36 redone and would use Alexseal. 
David-I am in Mystic, who did you boat? Thanks!

 

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 C&C 36

Mystic, CT

 

 

 

 

From: David Knecht  
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:28 PM
To: CnC discussion list CnC 
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

 

Ditto here.  Just had it done and all estimates were in Joe’s range.  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C&C 34+

New London, CT








On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Wow – I don’t think I have got an estimate around here under 12-15K for a 35 
foot boat. That would be worth going to NC to get done!

 

 

Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I

 <http://www.dellabarba.com/> www.dellabarba.com

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 1:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: Rick Brass mailto:rickbr...@earthlink.net> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

 

I had Imzadi painted in the early spring of 2017 - almost exactly 3 years ago. 
On the recommendation of the guy who does most of th ework I can't do myself, 
we used Alexseal 2-part paint. Alexseal is an alternative to Awlgrip or Imron. 
William reports very good results, and uses it for most of the paintwork he 
does. Comes on a pretty wide range of colors, one of which was a bit darker 
than the faded smoke white of Imzadi's hull and might be a close match to the 
original C&C color. One big advantage of the Alexseal paint is that it is about 
half the cost of Awlgrip. My cost for getting the boat prepped and painted 
(white topsides, triple red boot stripe, red cove stripe, red transom) was 
$125/foot - about $4800.

 

The paint has held up very well. Have had some black streaks from black 
rubstrips on an floating dock that washed right off. Had one scratch from a 
bolthead sticking out of a piling, which turned out to be an easy repair using 
some surplus from the original paint. The red transom shows no signs of fading 
yet.

 

Maintenance is to wash every 3 to 6 months with mild soap and water, and to 
wash annually with a product they sell which I presume is similar to Awlcare. 
BTW, the Alexseal website also lists other alternatives to their maintenance 
product - one of which I recall is made by Meguiars and is available from my 
local West Marine.

 

In all honesty, there was one small problem when the boat was painted. When 
they sprayed the red for the boot stripes and cove stripes over the white hull, 
the thin red paint leached under the edge of the green 3M masking tape amd left 
a fuzzy edge. So William had to touch up the white, remask the stripes with 
this fiendishly expensive 3M gold masking tape, and reshoot the red stripes. No 
 problem using the higher quality tape.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Ditto here.  Just had it done and all estimates were in Joe’s range.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



> On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow – I don’t think I have got an estimate around here under 12-15K for a 35 
> foot boat. That would be worth going to NC to get done!
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
> www.dellabarba.com 
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 1:50 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Rick Brass 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls
>  
> I had Imzadi painted in the early spring of 2017 - almost exactly 3 years 
> ago. On the recommendation of the guy who does most of th ework I can't do 
> myself, we used Alexseal 2-part paint. Alexseal is an alternative to Awlgrip 
> or Imron. William reports very good results, and uses it for most of the 
> paintwork he does. Comes on a pretty wide range of colors, one of which was a 
> bit darker than the faded smoke white of Imzadi's hull and might be a close 
> match to the original C&C color. One big advantage of the Alexseal paint is 
> that it is about half the cost of Awlgrip. My cost for getting the boat 
> prepped and painted (white topsides, triple red boot stripe, red cove stripe, 
> red transom) was $125/foot - about $4800.
>  
> The paint has held up very well. Have had some black streaks from black 
> rubstrips on an floating dock that washed right off. Had one scratch from a 
> bolthead sticking out of a piling, which turned out to be an easy repair 
> using some surplus from the original paint. The red transom shows no signs of 
> fading yet.
>  
> Maintenance is to wash every 3 to 6 months with mild soap and water, and to 
> wash annually with a product they sell which I presume is similar to Awlcare. 
> BTW, the Alexseal website also lists other alternatives to their maintenance 
> product - one of which I recall is made by Meguiars and is available from my 
> local West Marine.
>  
> In all honesty, there was one small problem when the boat was painted. When 
> they sprayed the red for the boot stripes and cove stripes over the white 
> hull, the thin red paint leached under the edge of the green 3M masking tape 
> amd left a fuzzy edge. So William had to touch up the white, remask the 
> stripes with this fiendishly expensive 3M gold masking tape, and reshoot the 
> red stripes. No  problem using the higher quality tape.
>  
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
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> 
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> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Wow – I don’t think I have got an estimate around here under 12-15K for a 35 
foot boat. That would be worth going to NC to get done!


Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 1:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

I had Imzadi painted in the early spring of 2017 - almost exactly 3 years ago. 
On the recommendation of the guy who does most of th ework I can't do myself, 
we used Alexseal 2-part paint. Alexseal is an alternative to Awlgrip or Imron. 
William reports very good results, and uses it for most of the paintwork he 
does. Comes on a pretty wide range of colors, one of which was a bit darker 
than the faded smoke white of Imzadi's hull and might be a close match to the 
original C&C color. One big advantage of the Alexseal paint is that it is about 
half the cost of Awlgrip. My cost for getting the boat prepped and painted 
(white topsides, triple red boot stripe, red cove stripe, red transom) was 
$125/foot - about $4800.

The paint has held up very well. Have had some black streaks from black 
rubstrips on an floating dock that washed right off. Had one scratch from a 
bolthead sticking out of a piling, which turned out to be an easy repair using 
some surplus from the original paint. The red transom shows no signs of fading 
yet.

Maintenance is to wash every 3 to 6 months with mild soap and water, and to 
wash annually with a product they sell which I presume is similar to Awlcare. 
BTW, the Alexseal website also lists other alternatives to their maintenance 
product - one of which I recall is made by Meguiars and is available from my 
local West Marine.

In all honesty, there was one small problem when the boat was painted. When 
they sprayed the red for the boot stripes and cove stripes over the white hull, 
the thin red paint leached under the edge of the green 3M masking tape amd left 
a fuzzy edge. So William had to touch up the white, remask the stripes with 
this fiendishly expensive 3M gold masking tape, and reshoot the red stripes. No 
 problem using the higher quality tape.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC
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