Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com

[Leslie Paal via CnC-List]

%<
 But I was coming from
 Vista!! And that wasn't possible (note the
 capital on the A, that was placed
 there by
 Outlook all by itself).
 
 Gary (still living in the stone age and not
 liking having to come out of my
 cave)
-%<

the capital A is correct after the exclamation mark.  But there should be a 
coma after the "And".

;-)

Leslie.
'refuses' to use Outlook or MS Office.
 

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Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com Windoze 10

[Patrick H. Wesley via CnC-List]

I switched to W 10 quite a long time ago, from 7, and am largely satisfied,
some irritants aside. Use it on my PC, then Word allows me to see documents
in full on my iPhone and iPad while away on the boat. To keep this C & C
legal, I use Navionics as a backup on the i devices. Patrick Wesley The
Boat, 24, Sidney BC

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm electing not to go to 10 from my Win 7 installs. I upgraded my wife
> from 8 to 10 because 8 was such a horrible piece of {expletive deleted}.
> I actually tried 10 on my main box, did not like it, and wiped it for a
> clean 7 install.
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
> On 29 July 2016 at 12:28, S Thomas via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> It is rash I think to believe much of what any company says about
>> perpetual or even long term support for software products.
>> Certain providers of sailboat steering systems come to mind too, but that
>> would be more directly sailing related.
>>
>> I still have a copy of Norton something or other, somewhere around here,
>> that was supposed to include perpetual virus pattern updates.
>> They stopped, no apologies, and that was that, although they did leave a
>> not too hard to find back door open that worked for about 3 years longer.
>>
>> Your mileage may vary,
>>
>> Steve.
>> C&C27 MKIII
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: 
>> Cc: "Danny Haughey" 
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 14:06
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com Windoze
>> 10
>>
>>
>> I thought the point of windows 10 was that it was going to be their last
>>> OS like apple's IOS.  That was what all the adds with the babies were
>>> saying. They, the babies, would be using windows 10 forever...
>>>
>>> Danny
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/29/2016 1:35 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Gary, but would add the following:
>>>>
>>>> Most of the "features" which are privacy issues can be tracked down and
>>>> turned off (they are all turned on by default), but the biggest problem
>>>> that I have with Windows 10 is not something that can be turned off. There
>>>> is no way to stop the operating system from downloading and installing
>>>> updates, which in effect means that the operating system will be whatever
>>>> Microsoft wants it to be in the future, and there is nothing at all that
>>>> you can do about it if you ever want to use the internet. One thing they
>>>> could do, for example, is decide that they are no longer going to offer
>>>> support, and oh by the way for those of you who don't want to buy yet
>>>> another operating system, Windows 10 will stop working altogether on such
>>>> and such a date.
>>>> Yuk.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Thomas
>>>> C&C27 MKIII
>>>> (Former IT guy at Ford Motor Co.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com Windoze 10

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I'm electing not to go to 10 from my Win 7 installs. I upgraded my wife
from 8 to 10 because 8 was such a horrible piece of {expletive deleted}.
I actually tried 10 on my main box, did not like it, and wiped it for a
clean 7 install.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 29 July 2016 at 12:28, S Thomas via CnC-List 
wrote:

> It is rash I think to believe much of what any company says about
> perpetual or even long term support for software products.
> Certain providers of sailboat steering systems come to mind too, but that
> would be more directly sailing related.
>
> I still have a copy of Norton something or other, somewhere around here,
> that was supposed to include perpetual virus pattern updates.
> They stopped, no apologies, and that was that, although they did leave a
> not too hard to find back door open that worked for about 3 years longer.
>
> Your mileage may vary,
>
> Steve.
> C&C27 MKIII
>
> - Original Message - From: "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: 
> Cc: "Danny Haughey" 
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 14:06
> Subject: Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com Windoze 10
>
>
> I thought the point of windows 10 was that it was going to be their last
>> OS like apple's IOS.  That was what all the adds with the babies were
>> saying. They, the babies, would be using windows 10 forever...
>>
>> Danny
>>
>>
>> On 7/29/2016 1:35 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Gary, but would add the following:
>>>
>>> Most of the "features" which are privacy issues can be tracked down and
>>> turned off (they are all turned on by default), but the biggest problem
>>> that I have with Windows 10 is not something that can be turned off. There
>>> is no way to stop the operating system from downloading and installing
>>> updates, which in effect means that the operating system will be whatever
>>> Microsoft wants it to be in the future, and there is nothing at all that
>>> you can do about it if you ever want to use the internet. One thing they
>>> could do, for example, is decide that they are no longer going to offer
>>> support, and oh by the way for those of you who don't want to buy yet
>>> another operating system, Windows 10 will stop working altogether on such
>>> and such a date.
>>> Yuk.
>>>
>>> Steve Thomas
>>> C&C27 MKIII
>>> (Former IT guy at Ford Motor Co.)
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com Windoze 10

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

It is rash I think to believe much of what any company says about perpetual 
or even long term support for software products.
Certain providers of sailboat steering systems come to mind too, but that 
would be more directly sailing related.


I still have a copy of Norton something or other, somewhere around here, 
that was supposed to include perpetual virus pattern updates.
They stopped, no apologies, and that was that, although they did leave a not 
too hard to find back door open that worked for about 3 years longer.


Your mileage may vary,

Steve.
C&C27 MKIII

- Original Message - 
From: "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" 

To: 
Cc: "Danny Haughey" 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 14:06
Subject: Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com Windoze 10


I thought the point of windows 10 was that it was going to be their last OS 
like apple's IOS.  That was what all the adds with the babies were saying. 
They, the babies, would be using windows 10 forever...


Danny


On 7/29/2016 1:35 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:

I agree with Gary, but would add the following:

Most of the "features" which are privacy issues can be tracked down and 
turned off (they are all turned on by default), but the biggest problem 
that I have with Windows 10 is not something that can be turned off. 
There is no way to stop the operating system from downloading and 
installing updates, which in effect means that the operating system will 
be whatever Microsoft wants it to be in the future, and there is nothing 
at all that you can do about it if you ever want to use the internet. One 
thing they could do, for example, is decide that they are no longer going 
to offer support, and oh by the way for those of you who don't want to 
buy yet another operating system, Windows 10 will stop working altogether 
on such and such a date.

Yuk.

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
(Former IT guy at Ford Motor Co.)




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Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com Windoze 10

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I thought the point of windows 10 was that it was going to be their last 
OS like apple's IOS.  That was what all the adds with the babies were 
saying.  They, the babies, would be using windows 10 forever...


Danny


On 7/29/2016 1:35 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:

I agree with Gary, but would add the following:

Most of the "features" which are privacy issues can be tracked down 
and turned off (they are all turned on by default), but the biggest 
problem that I have with Windows 10 is not something that can be 
turned off. There is no way to stop the operating system from 
downloading and installing updates, which in effect means that the 
operating system will be whatever Microsoft wants it to be in the 
future, and there is nothing at all that you can do about it if you 
ever want to use the internet. One thing they could do, for example, 
is decide that they are no longer going to offer support, and oh by 
the way for those of you who don't want to buy yet another operating 
system, Windows 10 will stop working altogether on such and such a date.

Yuk.

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
(Former IT guy at Ford Motor Co.)

- Original Message - From: "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" 


To: 
Cc: "Gary Nylander" 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 13:09
Subject: Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com


Wally, I am not a fan of win 10. It appears that Microsoft assumes 
that all
users are gamers and/or want to join the social media world 100%. It 
also
appears the office software assumes a dolt of a user who has no idea 
of how

to compose a letter or much of anything else - in other words they make
spelling/grammar/punctuation decisions for you whether you are 
interested or
not. If you get into some of their games, they assume you want to 
play games

with the world and store all your results and whatever on the cloud. I
prefer to keep it simple and that does not appear to be their plan.

My smarter friends tell me to stay on 7 or 8.1. But I was coming from
Vista!! And that wasn't possible (note the capital on the A, that was 
placed

there by Outlook all by itself).

Gary (still living in the stone age and not liking having to come out 
of my

cave)




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Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com Windoze 10

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

I agree with Gary, but would add the following:

Most of the "features" which are privacy issues can be tracked down and 
turned off (they are all turned on by default), but the biggest problem that 
I have with Windows 10 is not something that can be turned off. There is no 
way to stop the operating system from downloading and installing updates, 
which in effect means that the operating system will be whatever Microsoft 
wants it to be in the future, and there is nothing at all that you can do 
about it if you ever want to use the internet. One thing they could do, for 
example, is decide that they are no longer going to offer support, and oh by 
the way for those of you who don't want to buy yet another operating system, 
Windows 10 will stop working altogether on such and such a date.

Yuk.

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
(Former IT guy at Ford Motor Co.)

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" 

To: 
Cc: "Gary Nylander" 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 13:09
Subject: Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com


Wally, I am not a fan of win 10. It appears that Microsoft assumes that 
all

users are gamers and/or want to join the social media world 100%. It also
appears the office software assumes a dolt of a user who has no idea of 
how

to compose a letter or much of anything else - in other words they make
spelling/grammar/punctuation decisions for you whether you are interested 
or
not. If you get into some of their games, they assume you want to play 
games

with the world and store all your results and whatever on the cloud. I
prefer to keep it simple and that does not appear to be their plan.

My smarter friends tell me to stay on 7 or 8.1. But I was coming from
Vista!! And that wasn't possible (note the capital on the A, that was 
placed

there by Outlook all by itself).

Gary (still living in the stone age and not liking having to come out of 
my

cave)




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Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Wally, I am not a fan of win 10. It appears that Microsoft assumes that all
users are gamers and/or want to join the social media world 100%. It also
appears the office software assumes a dolt of a user who has no idea of how
to compose a letter or much of anything else - in other words they make
spelling/grammar/punctuation decisions for you whether you are interested or
not. If you get into some of their games, they assume you want to play games
with the world and store all your results and whatever on the cloud. I
prefer to keep it simple and that does not appear to be their plan.

My smarter friends tell me to stay on 7 or 8.1. But I was coming from
Vista!! And that wasn't possible (note the capital on the A, that was placed
there by Outlook all by itself).

Gary (still living in the stone age and not liking having to come out of my
cave)

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally
Bryant via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:01 PM
To: Support ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Wally Bryant 
Subject: Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com

Jon -

Thanks for that upgrade.  I'll check it out.

I was going to upgrade to Win 10 after I sailed to La Paz, since I use the
machine to navigate and didn't want to take any risks with software not
working.  But, I see the offer expires in 13 hours, so what the heck.  I
just did a full system backup yesterday, and if there's a problem I can
quickly rebuild the current Win 8 system.  Besides, I have two backup
computers and an entirely different marine chartplotter and three separate
GPS systems... Single handed sailors tend to be fussy about safety.

Wal


On 7/27/2016 6:27 PM, Support wrote:
>   ##- Please type your reply above this line -##
>
> [image: Jon Bilger]
>
> *Jon Bilger* (Support)
>
> Jul 28, 11:27 NZST
>
> Hi Wal,
>
> I understand the dilemma I have upgraded your account to the 
> Standard for free - I hope this helps!
> I see you are on Windows 8.1 - I would recommend you upgrade to 
> Windows 10
> - it is free upgrade until the end of the month. The Offshore App 
> works okay on Windows 8.1, but is optimised for Windows 10
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jon Bilger
>
> [image: Wal]
>
> *Wal*
>
> Jul 28, 05:56 NZST
>
> This is a follow-up to your previous request #25052 
> <http://support.predictwind.com/hc/requests/25052> "Question on 
> PredictWind.com"
>
> Thanks Jon -
>
> Yes, that answered my question. I'm not entirely pleased, because I 
> will have to upgrade my account to get high resolution gribs that 
> would be equivalent to what I get with the web interface. i navigate 
> with Fugawi 4.5, which can load gribs and overlay them on the charts, 
> and have many sources for gribs. But I've always enjoyed the PDF files 
> that store the web displays, with color contours and high resolution. 
> I'll probably just use the snipper tool to grab screen shots and merge 
> them into a .jpg.
>
> While I've been a full time cruiser since 2009, I'm really just 
> cruising around Pacific Mexico, and use cellular for internet access 
> using the phone as a WiFi hotspot. On the mainland it's easy to get a 
> good cellular connection within 10 miles of shore, and the only time I 
> need a long term forecast is if I decide to head out a hundred miles 
> and tack back. However, the crossing over to Baja takes a few days, 
> and up into the Sea of Cortez you can go a week or more without internet
access.
> Thus I like to cache a good long term forecast. Oh well, I'll keep 
> working on it.
>
> Best regards,
> Wal
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Re: Stus-List [Support] Re: Question on PredictWind.com

[Wally Bryant via CnC-List]

Jon -

Thanks for that upgrade.  I'll check it out.

I was going to upgrade to Win 10 after I sailed to La Paz, since I use 
the machine to navigate and didn't want to take any risks with software 
not working.  But, I see the offer expires in 13 hours, so what the 
heck.  I just did a full system backup yesterday, and if there's a 
problem I can quickly rebuild the current Win 8 system.  Besides, I have 
two backup computers and an entirely different marine chartplotter and 
three separate GPS systems... Single handed sailors tend to be fussy 
about safety.


Wal


On 7/27/2016 6:27 PM, Support wrote:

  ##- Please type your reply above this line -##

[image: Jon Bilger]

*Jon Bilger* (Support)

Jul 28, 11:27 NZST

Hi Wal,

I understand the dilemma I have upgraded your account to the Standard
for free - I hope this helps!
I see you are on Windows 8.1 - I would recommend you upgrade to Windows 10
- it is free upgrade until the end of the month. The Offshore App works
okay on Windows 8.1, but is optimised for Windows 10

Kind Regards,

Jon Bilger

[image: Wal]

*Wal*

Jul 28, 05:56 NZST

This is a follow-up to your previous request #25052
 "Question on
PredictWind.com"

Thanks Jon -

Yes, that answered my question. I'm not entirely pleased, because I
will have to upgrade my account to get high resolution gribs that would
be equivalent to what I get with the web interface. i navigate with
Fugawi 4.5, which can load gribs and overlay them on the charts, and
have many sources for gribs. But I've always enjoyed the PDF files that
store the web displays, with color contours and high resolution. I'll
probably just use the snipper tool to grab screen shots and merge them
into a .jpg.

While I've been a full time cruiser since 2009, I'm really just cruising
around Pacific Mexico, and use cellular for internet access using the
phone as a WiFi hotspot. On the mainland it's easy to get a good
cellular connection within 10 miles of shore, and the only time I need a
long term forecast is if I decide to head out a hundred miles and tack
back. However, the crossing over to Baja takes a few days, and up into
the Sea of Cortez you can go a week or more without internet access.
Thus I like to cache a good long term forecast. Oh well, I'll keep
working on it.

Best regards,
Wal
This email is a service from Support.


 
 
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