Re: Stus-List 34+ Idler Pulleys and Cabin Top Compression (Kevin Driscoll)

2020-02-26 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Overt problems may not be an issue...but if the owner showed a boat with those 
obvious flaws, I can only think of the things not obvious and problematic.  
Run.   Too many good examples out there and worth the wait to find one.

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Subject: Stus-List 34+ Idler Pulleys and Cabin Top Compression (Kevin Driscoll)

Hi Kevin

I didn't see anything to worry about either. Ours is the wing keel version and 
we love it.  To Steve's comment: It's fast as heck. On our lake,  (No wave 
surfing) I've seen sustained 8+ knots many times with bouts in the low 9's.  I 
saw 9 momentarily in just 14 knots wind last fall with our slick bottom (Pettit 
Black Widow PTFE paint) and new sails.

It's very competitive on the race course.  We win regularly and the PHRF 
committee even felt it was "too fast" and came to my dock to measure everything 
when we first started racing. Local PHRF is 108 adjusted for the 135 genoa.

Accommodations wise the cabin prett much as roomy and as comfy as my friends' 
newer 38 ft Beneteau Special Edition (Beneteau copied the layout) but much 
nicer with lots of beautiful teak wood everywhere instead of fake stuff.  
Compared to older boats it's roomier / more comfortable than many 40 footers...

About the "Tenderness".  It's a bit over-canvassed for speed and fun but it's 
not tender. I don't reef anything until I get to 18-20 sustained and then 
rolling 15-20% off the 135 genoa takes the edge off when close hauled / hard on 
the wind .  I have not reefed the main in a few years.  It takes 22-25 
sustained to even start considering reefing the main and that would be close 
hauled / hard on the wind only, all other points of sails it's all out way past 
25 knots. When the boat speed gets above 8 knots you do have to keep a close 
eye on things and ease a little in the puffs to flatten the boat and get the 
most speed boost.  The weather helm is very adjustable simply by setting the 
rake.  I took a fair amount of rake off the setup with my new sails, the new 
135 genoa pulls like a freight train and I had to loosen up the bow.

Some of the "Tenderness" might be attributed to older sails.  It was a 
noticeably more tender with the old sails but with the new ones, It just flat 
rocks!  Expect to spend $8,500 + on a decent set of custom made sails and 
somewhere between $6,000 - 7,000 bucks for chinese off the rack stuff.

On the concerns:

1) The window thing is no big deal, mine has it too. I think it's related to 
the windows "Pulling" on it in cold weather.  If you look in the crack, the 
lining is made out of Styrofoam... I'm planning on capping it with a nice teak 
strip as trim and to restore the shearing strength. You can also just glue it 
back, 5 minutes epoxy will work fine there.  Most cyanoacrylate glues (CA or 
'Crazy Glue type) will dissolve the foam.

2) The steering bracket is "Regular thing" caused by Edson's terrible material 
choice of mild steel. You can contact Chuck Scheafer about a replacement.  He 
had a nice stainless one made by Garhauer a few years back. Mine is still fine 
as the boat has been in fresh water most of its life.

3) Most or all of the cabin top is not cored.  I have removed a couple dodger 
fittings near the companion way / "business area" where the winches and main 
traveler are located,  I checked the holes carefully, and was happy to see that 
it's solid fiberglass.

4) The cooling system is no biggie. It's one of the few things that are easy to 
reach and work on in the engine compartment.  I would just replace the pump and 
all the hoses to be on the safe side.  The heat exchanger can be easily cleaned 
with wood dowels, there are access caps on both ends.  The whole thing is a 
couple hours' work tops.

I hope that works, PM me for more details if you want.

Regards,

Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA




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Stus-List 34+ Idler Pulleys and Cabin Top Compression (Kevin Driscoll)

2020-02-26 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Hi Kevin

I didn't see anything to worry about either. Ours is the wing keel version
and we love it.  To Steve's comment: It's fast as heck. On our lake,  (No
wave surfing) I've seen sustained 8+ knots many times with bouts in the low
9's.  I saw 9 momentarily in just 14 knots wind last fall with our slick
bottom (Pettit Black Widow PTFE paint) and new sails.

It's very competitive on the race course.  We win regularly and the PHRF
committee even felt it was "too fast" and came to my dock to measure
everything when we first started racing. Local PHRF is 108 adjusted for the
135 genoa.

Accommodations wise the cabin prett much as roomy and as comfy as my
friends' newer 38 ft Beneteau Special Edition (Beneteau copied the layout)
but much nicer with lots of beautiful teak wood everywhere instead of fake
stuff.  Compared to older boats it's roomier / more comfortable than many
40 footers...

About the "Tenderness".  It's a bit over-canvassed for speed and fun but
it's not tender. I don't reef anything until I get to 18-20 sustained and
then rolling 15-20% off the 135 genoa takes the edge off when close hauled
/ hard on the wind .  I have not reefed the main in a few years.  It takes
22-25 sustained to even start considering reefing the main and that would
be close hauled / hard on the wind only, all other points of sails it's all
out way past 25 knots. When the boat speed gets above 8 knots you do have
to keep a close eye on things and ease a little in the puffs to flatten the
boat and get the most speed boost.  The weather helm is very adjustable
simply by setting the rake.  I took a fair amount of rake off the setup
with my new sails, the new 135 genoa pulls like a freight train and I had
to loosen up the bow.

Some of the "Tenderness" might be attributed to older sails.  It was a
noticeably more tender with the old sails but with the new ones, It just
flat rocks!  Expect to spend $8,500 + on a decent set of custom made sails
and somewhere between $6,000 - 7,000 bucks for chinese off the rack stuff.

On the concerns:

1) The window thing is no big deal, mine has it too. I think it's related
to the windows "Pulling" on it in cold weather.  If you look in the crack,
the lining is made out of Styrofoam... I'm planning on capping it with a
nice teak strip as trim and to restore the shearing strength. You can also
just glue it back, 5 minutes epoxy will work fine there.  Most
cyanoacrylate glues (CA or 'Crazy Glue type) will dissolve the foam.

2) The steering bracket is "Regular thing" caused by Edson's terrible
material choice of mild steel. You can contact Chuck Scheafer about a
replacement.  He had a nice stainless one made by Garhauer a few years
back. Mine is still fine as the boat has been in fresh water most of its
life.

3) Most or all of the cabin top is not cored.  I have removed a couple
dodger fittings near the companion way / "business area" where the winches
and main traveler are located,  I checked the holes carefully, and was
happy to see that it's solid fiberglass.

4) The cooling system is no biggie. It's one of the few things that are
easy to reach and work on in the engine compartment.  I would just replace
the pump and all the hoses to be on the safe side.  The heat exchanger can
be easily cleaned with wood dowels, there are access caps on both ends.
The whole thing is a couple hours' work tops.

I hope that works, PM me for more details if you want.

Regards,

Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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