Re: Stus-List Able bodied crew available in Toronto Area Now Yacht Club Crew Membership

2014-09-11 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
I thought that when this subject (Yacht Club Crew Membership category ) came up 
before, the consensus was that most Clubs did not offer this category - or 
force crew on Cruising boats to join.  I would be very interested to hear what 
Clubs are now doing, and if they require membership by crew what the annual fee 
is. 

Pequot Yacht Club (Southport CT) does not have a crew membership category.  No 
restrictions on non- member crews other than parking restrictions (must park 
offsite)



--
Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

 On Sep 11, 2014, at 13:04, Michael Brown via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 Likely the same as most other clubs National Yacht Club has a membership 
 category
 for crew. Thanks to a few skilled computer programmers at NYC there is a full 
 online crew
 bank with skill level and preferences that automates the matches and emails 
 everyone.
 
 Every spring the club runs a special non-certificate Introduction to Keelboat 
 Sailing.
 
 http://thenyc.com/learn.php
 ...
 
 This course runs two nights a week over seven weeks and provides participants 
 with a
 basic understanding of keelboat sailing, with instruction both in-class and 
 on-the-water.
 Topics include boat parts, wind, weather, basic on-water safety and equipment 
 (clothing, etc.),
 sailing terminology, knots, rules, cruising, and some in-depth racing 
 strategies.
 This is a very popular course and space is strictly limited, so please be 
 sure to register early.
 
 ...
 
 The deal is the course is $417 which includes one year of introductory crew 
 membership,
 normally priced at $276. Also includes a text book and a graduation dinner.
 
 After some in classroom instruction the students get a walk around on club 
 member's boats,
 then go out for a sail, and at the end may go out for a race night 
 specifically set up for the
 training boats. The course is usually sold out.
 
 
 Changing topics here - that was a large storm yesterday. At one point on 
 radar it went as
 far south as the Pittsburgh area and north maybe half way up Superior. I went 
 out racing
 in it. Thankfully RC set 1.1 mile legs once around. Saw 24 kts winds under 
 spinnaker and
 7.6 kts boat speed, but just can't catch the J/22 and J/24s downwind. A 
 couple of the
 sport boats finished in under 22 minutes. Guessing it was 17 minutes upwind, 
 5 down.
 
 Michael Brown
 Windburn
 CC 30-1
 
 
 
 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:14:49 -0400 
 From: Colin Kilgour charliekilo...@gmail.com 
 To: Jean-Francois J Rivard jfriv...@us.ibm.com, CC List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Able bodied crew available in Toronto Area 
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 There are always boats looking for race crew here, but if you're not in the 
 network of sailors it can be hard to get started. 
 
 If he has any sailing connections he should leverage them. 
 
 If not, print up a flyer and post it at all the chandlers and yacht clubs 
 in town.  They all have bulletin boards for such things.  You can also hang 
 around the docks at some of the bigger clubs on race night and let it be 
 known you're looking to crew.  There's almost always someone with a crew 
 member stuck in traffic or at the office.  (Of course, you have to slip 
 past security, but that's dead simple at most clubs - particularly on 
 race night) 
 
 Most clubs also have crew and associate member categories, but I wouldn't 
 fork out for one of them until he's found a boat to crew on, because he 
 could end up forking out for a membership at one club and then getting a 
 ride on a boat from another club. 
 
 (As a specific tip, Port Credit Yacht Club runs its J24 fall series every 
 weekend until freeze up.  Those guys often need crew as the weather gets 
 colder and people start to think about winter activities) 
 
 Good luck. 
 
 Cheers, 
 Colin 
 
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List  
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: 
 
  Hi Y'all, 
  
  I've been talking about my sailing adventures to my young co-worker friend 
  from Toronto and he's interested in crewing. 
  
  On our lake the clubs have associate membership to allow folks without 
  boats to be members. This way they are able to access the crew wanted 
  side of the club website and crew on different boats. 
  
  Do you guys have similar options on Lake Ontario? My friend is interested 
  in sailing but is just getting started in life and does not have the spare 
  coin for a boat. He's a really nice guy, has no sailing experience, but is 
  very bright and pretty athletic 
  
  Please let me know if you need crew or can recommend clubs for him to get 
  started. 
  
  Regards, 
  
  -Francois 
  1990 34+ Take Five 
  Lake Lanier, Georgia 
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Re: Stus-List Able bodied crew available in Toronto Area Now Yacht Club Crew Membership

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I should have said ...

In the context of clubs in the Toronto area with a club racing program I think 
many of the clubs
offer an associate - crew - junior ...  membership categories.

At NYC anyone can come in as a guest of a senior member for cruising or racing, 
even on a
regular basis. I think crew membership entitles the person to free club parking 
and a 7x24
access card. Without it parking is $5 a night on race / event nights and may be 
restricted
during regattas.

The other benefit of crew membership is the one week a year that throws terror 
in the hearts
of all the skippers, Crew Race Night. We take a new crew member that has 
limited helming
experience and switch everyone's position on the boat. First, second and third 
get their own
flag awarded that night. Now I realize that may sound silly, put at $276 for a 
flag it sounds
pretty inexpensive compared to what the owner spends ;-)

Michael Brown
Windburn
CC 30-1





Indigo ind...@thethomsons.us , 9/11/2014 1:20 PM:
I thought that when this subject (Yacht Club Crew Membership category ) came up 
before, the consensus was that most Clubs did not offer this category - or 
force crew on Cruising boats to join.  I would be very interested to hear what 
Clubs are now doing, and if they require membership by crew what the annual fee 
is. 
Pequot Yacht Club (Southport CT) does not have a crew membership category.  No 
restrictions on non- member crews other than parking restrictions (must park 
offsite)


--JonathanIndigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
On Sep 11, 2014, at 13:04, Michael Brown via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

Likely the same as most other clubs National Yacht Club has a membership 
category
for crew. Thanks to a few skilled computer programmers at NYC there is a full 
online crew
bank with skill level and preferences that automates the matches and emails 
everyone.

Every spring the club runs a special non-certificate Introduction to Keelboat 
Sailing.

http://thenyc.com/learn.php
...

This course runs two nights a week over seven weeks and provides  participants 
with a
basic understanding of keelboat sailing, with  instruction both in-class and 
on-the-water.
Topics include boat parts,  wind, weather, basic on-water safety and equipment 
(clothing, etc.),
sailing terminology, knots, rules, cruising, and some in-depth racing  
strategies.
This is a very popular course and space is strictly limited,  so please be sure 
to register early.

...

The deal is the course is $417 which includes one year of introductory crew 
membership,
normally priced at $276. Also includes a text book and a graduation dinner.

After some in classroom instruction the students get a walk around on club 
member's boats,
then go out for a sail, and at the end may go out for a race night specifically 
set up for the
training boats. The course is usually sold out.


Changing topics here - that was a large storm yesterday. At one point on radar 
it went as
far south as the Pittsburgh area and north maybe half way up Superior. I went 
out racing
in it. Thankfully RC set 1.1 mile legs once around. Saw 24 kts winds under 
spinnaker and
7.6 kts boat speed, but just can't catch the J/22 and J/24s downwind. A couple 
of the
sport boats finished in under 22 minutes. Guessing it was 17 minutes upwind, 5 
down.

Michael Brown
Windburn
CC 30-1



Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:14:49 -0400 
From: Colin Kilgour charliekilo...@gmail.com 
To: Jean-Francois J Rivard jfriv...@us.ibm.com,     CC List 
     cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Able bodied crew available in Toronto Area 
Message-ID: 
     cakr-nknf-hpw1u0ffz7jtr+c__xufksqszqur7cf+ztm3zd...@mail.gmail.com 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 
 
There are always boats looking for race crew here, but if you're not in the 
network of sailors it can be hard to get started. 
 
If he has any sailing connections he should leverage them. 
 
If not, print up a flyer and post it at all the chandlers and yacht clubs 
in town.  They all have bulletin boards for such things.  You can also hang 
around the docks at some of the bigger clubs on race night and let it be 
known you're looking to crew.  There's almost always someone with a crew 
member stuck in traffic or at the office.  (Of course, you have to slip 
past security, but that's dead simple at most clubs - particularly on 
race night) 
 
Most clubs also have crew and associate member categories, but I wouldn't 
fork out for one of them until he's found a boat to crew on, because he 
could end up forking out for a membership at one club and then getting a 
ride on a boat from another club. 
 
(As a specific tip, Port Credit Yacht Club runs its J24 fall series every 
weekend until freeze up.  Those guys often need crew as the weather gets 
colder and people start to think about winter activities) 
 
Good luck. 
 
Cheers, 
Colin 
 
 
 
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List  
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: 
 
 Hi Y'all, 
 
 I've