Re: Stus-List Arrival by private boat in the US by a "visa exempt" citizen

2016-06-01 Thread Paul Baker via CnC-List
this might be 
useful.http://currents.bluewatercruising.org/articles/pleasure-boat-entry-us-new-process-2016/

Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 15:05:25 -0600
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Arrival by private boat in the US by a   "visa   exempt" 
citizen
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: anitteb...@yahoo.ca

Arrival on a commercial vessel is a non issue. Private /charter boat seems to 
be the problem. Or did you mean to say you've gone back and forth n your own or 
charter boat?

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Re: Stus-List Arrival by private boat in the US by a "visa exempt" citizen

2016-05-31 Thread Bmue via CnC-List
Arrival on a commercial vessel is a non issue. Private /charter boat seems to 
be the problem. Or did you mean to say you've gone back and forth n your own or 
charter boat?

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Re: Stus-List Arrival by private boat in the US by a "visa exempt" citizen

2016-05-31 Thread Paul Baker via CnC-List
Why not try calling the Victoria clipper or Washington state ferries, I'm 
nether Canadian nor US but i can go to the US without having to drive there 
first. They would perhaps have an idea about it. 

Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 13:29:20 -0600
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Arrival by private boat in the US by a "visa exempt" citizen
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: anitteb...@yahoo.ca

It's not really a C&C question but rather a travel by boat to the US question 
when not a US or Canadian citizen but coming from a visa "exempt" country. So 
holler if I am breaking the "rules".
I have had multiple exchanges with US customs/ border control because 
apparently you need this I94 form (a form that basically confirms that you 
don't need a visa?) in your passport BEFORE you arrive at the US port. However, 
you can only get this form at a land border crossing (nope not at an airport , 
there, you need your ESTA), which means you need to drive across the border get 
the form, pay $6, turn around drive back to Canada and then hop on the boat and 
sail to the US. After 3 months , repeat. I have never gotten an answer on what 
to do when you arrive from the Caribbean. ( can't drive across the border 
first,now, can ya).
Has anybody run into this and knows how to get around this logistical 
impossibility?
Thank you ...
Below, read starting from the bottom...

 SubjectRe arrival in the US by private pleasure boat (or bareboat charter) 
Where would ...  Discussion Thread Response Via Email (CBP I-94 and ESTA 
Officer)04/26/2016 03:23 PMDear Sir/Madame,

There is not another visitor visa that can be obtained ahead of time prior to 
your entry to the US. Even if ESTA is obtained, you are still required by law 
to be inspected upon entry to the US and that includes arrival by boat. ESTA 
does not grant you admission into the US. It is only used for pre-inspection 
purposes prior to your arrival to the US. If you arrive by boat you will need 
to report to the nearest port of entry. If you arrive to the US by air then you 
will need to fly into an international airport where CBP is staffed. 



Best Regards,
Admissibility and Passenger Programs



Please note that in our online tracking software, a “Solved” status simply 
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back. 

This email is intended for Informational Purposes Only, final determination of 
admission is solely at the discretion of the CBP Officer based upon the 
inspection at the time of entry. Customer By Email04/26/2016 09:30 AMThank you 
for the clarification re airport entry.
I understand that we require the correct documentation. The question is how can 
one obtain this  when arriving by boat e.g. From the Caribbean or, from Europe 
without prior access to a land border?  Is there another option then the I94 
which is only valid for 3 month and has to be obtained at a physical US border?
 E.g. Is there another "visitor visa" that can be obtained well in advance but 
remains valid (e.g. like the ESTA that can be obtained through online 
application and remains valid for 2 years. ) 
Thank you for you assistance.
On Apr 26, 2016, at 7:11, "CBP INFO Center"   
wrote:


 Response Via Email (CBP I-94 and ESTA Officer)04/26/2016 09:11 AMDear 
Sir/Madame,

In order to obtain an I-94 document at the airport where CBP is stationed at 
you need to have a flight booked in order to do so. The I-94 document can only 
be given upon your entry to the US. If you were to obtain the I-94 document at 
an airport you will need to be flying into the US i.e. making an entry to the 
US. 

As far as your arrival by sailboat from the Caribbean you will need to have the 
correct documentation prior to your arrival. If you arrive to the US without 
being inspected by CBP or issued the correct documentation for entry to the US 
you can be considered as a person who entered the US without inspection.


Best Regards,
Admissibility and Passenger Programs



Please note that in our online tracking software, a “Solved” status simply 
means that we have provided you with the best information we have to your 
question. There may still be steps you need to complete before your situation 
is resolved to your satisfaction. Those steps are explained in our response. If 
you need further clarification on those steps, please feel free to contact us 
back. 

This email is intended for Informational Purposes Only, final determination of 
admission is solely at the discretion of the CBP Officer based upon the 
inspection at the time of entry. Customer By Email04/26/2016 09:00 AMThank you 
for the information. Could you please let me know if the form

Stus-List Arrival by private boat in the US by a "visa exempt" citizen

2016-05-31 Thread Bmue via CnC-List
It's not really a C&C question but rather a travel by boat to the US question 
when not a US or Canadian citizen but coming from a visa "exempt" country. So 
holler if I am breaking the "rules".

I have had multiple exchanges with US customs/ border control because 
apparently you need this I94 form (a form that basically confirms that you 
don't need a visa?) in your passport BEFORE you arrive at the US port. However, 
you can only get this form at a land border crossing (nope not at an airport , 
there, you need your ESTA), which means you need to drive across the border get 
the form, pay $6, turn around drive back to Canada and then hop on the boat and 
sail to the US. After 3 months , repeat. 
I have never gotten an answer on what to do when you arrive from the Caribbean. 
( can't drive across the border first,now, can ya).

Has anybody run into this and knows how to get around this logistical 
impossibility?

Thank you ...

Below, read starting from the bottom...

 Subject
Re arrival in the US by private pleasure boat (or bareboat charter) Where would 
...
 
 Discussion Thread
 Response Via Email (CBP I-94 and ESTA Officer) 04/26/2016 03:23 PM
Dear Sir/Madame,

There is not another visitor visa that can be obtained ahead of time prior to 
your entry to the US. Even if ESTA is obtained, you are still required by law 
to be inspected upon entry to the US and that includes arrival by boat. ESTA 
does not grant you admission into the US. It is only used for pre-inspection 
purposes prior to your arrival to the US. If you arrive by boat you will need 
to report to the nearest port of entry. If you arrive to the US by air then you 
will need to fly into an international airport where CBP is staffed. 



Best Regards,
Admissibility and Passenger Programs



Please note that in our online tracking software, a “Solved” status simply 
means that we have provided you with the best information we have to your 
question. There may still be steps you need to complete before your situation 
is resolved to your satisfaction. Those steps are explained in our response. If 
you need further clarification on those steps, please feel free to contact us 
back. 

This email is intended for Informational Purposes Only, final determination of 
admission is solely at the discretion of the CBP Officer based upon the 
inspection at the time of entry.
 Customer By Email  04/26/2016 09:30 AM
Thank you for the clarification re airport entry.

I understand that we require the correct documentation. The question is how can 
one obtain this  when arriving by boat e.g. From the Caribbean or, from Europe 
without prior access to a land border?  Is there another option then the I94 
which is only valid for 3 month and has to be obtained at a physical US border?

 E.g. Is there another "visitor visa" that can be obtained well in advance but 
remains valid (e.g. like the ESTA that can be obtained through online 
application and remains valid for 2 years. ) 

Thank you for you assistance.

On Apr 26, 2016, at 7:11, "CBP INFO Center"   
wrote:


 Response Via Email (CBP I-94 and ESTA Officer) 04/26/2016 09:11 AM
Dear Sir/Madame,

In order to obtain an I-94 document at the airport where CBP is stationed at 
you need to have a flight booked in order to do so. The I-94 document can only 
be given upon your entry to the US. If you were to obtain the I-94 document at 
an airport you will need to be flying into the US i.e. making an entry to the 
US. 

As far as your arrival by sailboat from the Caribbean you will need to have the 
correct documentation prior to your arrival. If you arrive to the US without 
being inspected by CBP or issued the correct documentation for entry to the US 
you can be considered as a person who entered the US without inspection.


Best Regards,
Admissibility and Passenger Programs



Please note that in our online tracking software, a “Solved” status simply 
means that we have provided you with the best information we have to your 
question. There may still be steps you need to complete before your situation 
is resolved to your satisfaction. Those steps are explained in our response. If 
you need further clarification on those steps, please feel free to contact us 
back. 

This email is intended for Informational Purposes Only, final determination of 
admission is solely at the discretion of the CBP Officer based upon the 
inspection at the time of entry.
 Customer By Email  04/26/2016 09:00 AM
Thank you for the information. Could you please let me know if the form (I94) 
is available at an airport in Canada that has US customs stationed there. As 
you may appreciate driving to the border to get this form is not always 
practicable. 

It is not quite clear to me how one can overcome this logistical impossibility 
if arriving for example, from the Caribbean by sailboat? Could you please 
advise how these situations can be addressed as the I 94 is only valid for 3 
mth and as such cannot be obtained prior to d