Re: Stus-List Autopilot selection and install
Alan — short of a below-deck pilot, your only other real choice would be another wheel pilot; and there, you only have one choice right now: the Raymarine Evolution Wheel Pilot. Nobody else is making one at this time. The drive on the EV is better and more capable than the older version you currently have with the ST4000; it is rated to a maximum displacement of 16,500 lbs, which would give you about a 50% safety factor given your boat’s published displacement. Contact me off-list if you’d like to get the special C&C Lister price. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Jun 2, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Allan Hester via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Hi Fred and listers, > > > As you know, I am considering a new autopilot. Autopilots are something I > know nothing about. > > The Raymarine ST4000 currently installed works but it is very old and is not > capable of steering the boat straight in anything other than a relatively > flat sea state. > > However, it does the job, after a fashion. Its also quite noisy. Everytime it > adjusts course it squeaks. It may only need some lubrication. I will > lubricate the wheel over the next few days. Are the new units noisy? > > I have been in the port side lazarette many times. As you can appreciate it > is a cramped space. I installed a new Espar heater last winter and crawling > in that hole was very uncomfortable even with the port scupper hose removed. > > I have no plans to sail offshore in a C&C 35. So I wonder if the added > expense and difficulty of install for an under deck autopilot is really > necessary? Perhaps the new wheel pilots will track better than my old ST4000 > and offer > strong, reliable, quiet performance? > > I have taken a cursory look the quadrant and rudder post in the past. It > doesn't appear to me there is any room to attach anything to the post. I > think my only option in that regard is doing what Paul did on his LF 38 and > attach > > the drive to the quadrant. > > This is a project that I will tackle after the current sailing season. At > this point I am looking for advice from those who have experience in this > area. > > Thanks in advance for any advice you and listers can offer. > > AL H. > C&C 35 mk3 > Pacific Ranger > Vancouver ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Autopilot selection and install
Hi Allan It is probably possible, on my 35-3 there was room under the quadrant to add a tiller arm (I actually bolted mine to the quadrant for additional support). I had enough exposed shaft, with keyway, to fit it. My pilot drive (a Raymarine, type 1 I think) runs from the tiller arm to a pad I glassed in just behind the end of the quarter-berth. Did most of the work through that tiny access hatch. I can take a pic or two if you are interested. Yes, no fun to install but great now. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2018-06-02 12:58 PM, Allan Hester via CnC-List wrote: > Hi Fred and listers, > > > As you know, I am considering a new autopilot. Autopilots are something I > know nothing about. > > The Raymarine ST4000 currently installed works but it is very old and is > not capable of steering the boat straight in anything other than a relatively > flat sea state. > > However, it does the job, after a fashion. Its also quite noisy. Everytime it > adjusts course it squeaks. It may only need some lubrication. I will > lubricate the wheel over the next few days. Are the new units noisy? > > I have been in the port side lazarette many times. As you can appreciate it > is a cramped space. I installed a new Espar heater last winter and crawling > in that hole was very uncomfortable even with the port scupper hose removed. > > I have no plans to sail offshore in a C&C 35. So I wonder if the added > expense and difficulty of install for an under deck autopilot is really > necessary? Perhaps the new wheel pilots will track better than my old ST4000 > and offer > strong, reliable, quiet performance? > > I have taken a cursory look the quadrant and rudder post in the past. It > doesn't appear to me there is any room to attach anything to the post. I > think my only option in that regard is doing what Paul did on his LF 38 and > attach > > the drive to the quadrant. > > This is a project that I will tackle after the current sailing season. At > this point I am looking for advice from those who have experience in this > area. > > Thanks in advance for any advice you and listers can offer. > > AL H. > C&C 35 mk3 > Pacific Ranger > Vancouver > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > . > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Autopilot selection and install
Hi Fred and listers, As you know, I am considering a new autopilot. Autopilots are something I know nothing about. The Raymarine ST4000 currently installed works but it is very old and is not capable of steering the boat straight in anything other than a relatively flat sea state. However, it does the job, after a fashion. Its also quite noisy. Everytime it adjusts course it squeaks. It may only need some lubrication. I will lubricate the wheel over the next few days. Are the new units noisy? I have been in the port side lazarette many times. As you can appreciate it is a cramped space. I installed a new Espar heater last winter and crawling in that hole was very uncomfortable even with the port scupper hose removed. I have no plans to sail offshore in a C&C 35. So I wonder if the added expense and difficulty of install for an under deck autopilot is really necessary? Perhaps the new wheel pilots will track better than my old ST4000 and offer strong, reliable, quiet performance? I have taken a cursory look the quadrant and rudder post in the past. It doesn't appear to me there is any room to attach anything to the post. I think my only option in that regard is doing what Paul did on his LF 38 and attach the drive to the quadrant. This is a project that I will tackle after the current sailing season. At this point I am looking for advice from those who have experience in this area. Thanks in advance for any advice you and listers can offer. AL H. C&C 35 mk3 Pacific Ranger Vancouver ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
