Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

[schiller via CnC-List]

Doug,

Thanks.  I saw that there are three C 35-1's in the Chi-Mac from you 
area.  I'm sure that they have already addressed the issue.  I still 
find it hard to believe that the back side of that bulkhead wasn't 
glassed.  All of the lower chain plates go to glass in bulkheads.  The 
uppers (on both sides) do not.  I guess it is because the other side is 
teak veneer in the cabin.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
Already mast-less in Muskegon, Michigan

On 7/10/2017 10:29 AM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List wrote:
Neil, Sorry to hear about your disaster. Clearly one of every sailors 
worst nightmares. I can only imagine what you and your crew went 
through. On the bright side, no one was injured.
After looking at your pictures I was surprised that the damage to the 
boat wasn't more extensive. The shroud came out fairly clean so the 
damage to the deck wall ugly is very repairable. The bulkhead will 
take a little more work, but also very repairable. I would replace 
about 18" of the bulkhead from outboard or until you get into good 
wood. Glass it in and add a large aluminum plate on the back side, and 
it will be stronger than new. It may not look like a new boat on the 
inside, but it will be stronger. If the insurance will cover the 
majority of the cost, its always nice to have a bran new Offshore rig 
with new shrouds you can trust.
Good luck my friend.  The Redwing 35 is a classic. We still have many 
active 35's in the Detroit racing circuit.

Doug Allardyce
C 35 III
BULLET
~_/)_/)

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*Cc:* schiller
*Subject:* Stus-List Broke my boat

We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon,
Michigan yesterday.  The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and
the chain plate pulled out through the deck.  The mast snapped at
the spreaders and fell off to the leeward side.

We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race. 
The conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts

when the chain plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had
been on a beam reach doing 7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to
closehauled to see if we were going to be able to point to the
turning mark when it failed.  We had about twenty seconds between
hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the deck
with the mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at
failure.  I was just starting out to crash drop sails from the
first pop and seeing the slack leeward shroud.  The helmsman had
just started turning into the wind.

After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed
and get the jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit. 
Took the boat back in to Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it

in their haulout well until Monday when they can start assessing it.

It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will
support a new mast and structural repairs necessary.

The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed
in the bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22
years ago) but the wood in the area does not look good.

I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.

Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan
(Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)



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Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

[Doug Allardyce via CnC-List]

Neil, Sorry to hear about your disaster. Clearly one of every sailors worst 
nightmares. I can only imagine what you and your crew went through. On the 
bright side, no one was injured.
After looking at your pictures I was surprised that the damage to the boat 
wasn't more extensive. The shroud came out fairly clean so the damage to the 
deck wall ugly is very repairable. The bulkhead will take a little more work, 
but also very repairable. I would replace about 18" of the bulkhead from 
outboard or until you get into good wood. Glass it in and add a large aluminum 
plate on the back side, and it will be stronger than new. It may not look like 
a new boat on the inside, but it will be stronger. If the insurance will cover 
the majority of the cost, its always nice to have a bran new Offshore rig with 
new shrouds you can trust.

Good luck my friend.  The Redwing 35 is a classic. We still have many active 
35's in the Detroit racing circuit.

Doug Allardyce
C 35 III
BULLET
~_/)_/)

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via CnC-List
  Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 7:33 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: schiller
  Subject: Stus-List Broke my boat


  We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan 
yesterday.  The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate 
pulled out through the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell off to 
the leeward side.

  We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race.  The 
conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the chain 
plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been on a beam reach doing 
7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled to see if we were going to be able 
to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We had about twenty seconds 
between hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the deck with the 
mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure.  I was just starting 
out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the slack leeward shroud. 
 The helmsman had just started turning into the wind.

  After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get the 
jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit.  Took the boat back in to 
Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well until Monday when 
they can start assessing it.

  It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a new 
mast and structural repairs necessary.

  The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the 
bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the 
wood in the area does not look good.

  I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.

  Neil Schiller
  1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
  (C 35, Mark I)
  "Corsair"
  White Lake, Michigan
  (Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)
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Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Scary!  Makes me reflect on my own maintenance and inspection practices.  I
always have a nagging fear that part of my rig will let loose, the mast
will come down, and someone will die.  Now I'm even more parinoid.  Glad to
hear no one was hurt.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Jul 9, 2017 7:34 AM, "schiller via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan
> yesterday.  The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate
> pulled out through the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell
> off to the leeward side.
>
> We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race.  The
> conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the chain
> plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been on a beam reach doing
> 7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled to see if we were going to be
> able to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We had about twenty
> seconds between hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the
> deck with the mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure.  I
> was just starting out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the
> slack leeward shroud.  The helmsman had just started turning into the wind.
>
> After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get
> the jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit.  Took the boat back
> in to Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well until
> Monday when they can start assessing it.
>
> It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a new
> mast and structural repairs necessary.
>
> The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the
> bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the
> wood in the area does not look good.
>
> I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
> (C 35, Mark I)
> "Corsair"
> White Lake, Michigan
> (Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)
>
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Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

If the 35-2 needs an A4, there is a nice one for sale here for $1200.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 12:58 PM
To: schiller <schil...@bloomingdalecom.net>
Cc: Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

 

My neighbour here (Whitby ON) took his "new" 35-2 out two weeks ago and  the  
engine went bang.  He bought the boat from the widow of his best friend, and 
this was to have been an inaugural sail, he was out with friends and family and 
received a tow back.  Pretty discouraged I think.  

Email me off list if you see a solution to two problems here

 

Dave.



Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 9, 2017, at 7:33 AM, schiller <schil...@bloomingdalecom.net 
<mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net> > wrote:

We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan yesterday.  
The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate pulled out 
through the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell off to the 
leeward side.

We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race.  The 
conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the chain 
plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been on a beam reach doing 
7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled to see if we were going to be able 
to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We had about twenty seconds 
between hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the deck with the 
mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure.  I was just starting 
out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the slack leeward shroud. 
 The helmsman had just started turning into the wind.

After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get the 
jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit.  Took the boat back in to 
Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well until Monday when 
they can start assessing it.

It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a new mast 
and structural repairs necessary.

The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the 
bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the 
wood in the area does not look good.

I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.

Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan
(Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)

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Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

[Dave S via CnC-List]

My neighbour here (Whitby ON) took his "new" 35-2 out two weeks ago and  the  
engine went bang.  He bought the boat from the widow of his best friend, and 
this was to have been an inaugural sail, he was out with friends and family and 
received a tow back.  Pretty discouraged I think.  
Email me off list if you see a solution to two problems here

Dave.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 7:33 AM, schiller  wrote:
> 
> We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan 
> yesterday.  The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate 
> pulled out through the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell off 
> to the leeward side.
> 
> We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race.  The 
> conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the chain 
> plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been on a beam reach doing 
> 7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to   closehauled to see if we were going to 
> be able to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We had about twenty 
> seconds between hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the 
> deck with the mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure.  I 
> was just starting out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the 
> slack leeward shroud.  The helmsman had just started turning into the wind.
> 
> After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get the 
> jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit.  Took the boat back in to 
> Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well until Monday 
> when they can start assessing it.
> 
> It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a new 
> mast and structural repairs necessary.
> 
> The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the 
> bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the 
> wood in the area does not look good.
> 
> I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.
> 
> Neil Schiller
> 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
> (C 35, Mark I)
> "Corsair"
> White Lake, Michigan
> (Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)
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Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Wow, glad nobody was hurt.

Dave.  33-2

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> On Jul 9, 2017, at 11:41 AM, wwadjo...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Neil,
>   Scary stuff.  Glad no one hurt.  
> Bill Walker 
> Evening Star
> CnC 36
> Pentwater, Mi
> 
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 schiller via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan 
> yesterday.  The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate 
> pulled out through the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell off 
> to the leeward side.
> 
> We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race.  The 
> conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the chain 
> plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been on a beam reach doing 
> 7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to   closehauled to see if we were going to 
> be able to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We had about twenty 
> seconds between hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the 
> deck with the mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure.  I 
> was just starting out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the 
> slack leeward shroud.  The helmsman had just started turning into the wind.
> 
> After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get the 
> jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit.  Took the boat back in to 
> Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well until Monday 
> when they can start assessing it.
> 
> It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a new 
> mast and structural repairs necessary.
> 
> The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the 
> bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the 
> wood in the area does not look good.
> 
> I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.
> 
> Neil Schiller
> 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
> (C 35, Mark I)
> "Corsair"
> White Lake, Michigan
> (Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)
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Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Neil,
  Scary stuff.  Glad no one hurt.  
Bill Walker 
Evening Star
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi

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On Sunday, July 9, 2017 schiller via CnC-List  wrote:

We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan yesterday.  
The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate pulled out 
through the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell off to the 
leeward side.

We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race.  The 
conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the chain 
plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been on a beam reach doing 
7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled to see if we were going to be able 
to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We had about twenty seconds 
between hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the deck with the 
mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure.  I was just starting 
out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the slack leeward shroud. 
 The helmsman had just started turning into the wind.

After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get the 
jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit.  Took the boat back in to 
Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well until Monday when 
they can start assessing it.

It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a new mast 
and structural repairs necessary.

The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the 
bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the 
wood in the area does not look good.

I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.

Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan
(Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)

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Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

[schiller via CnC-List]

We will have pictures later.  We are going back up to clean out the 
personal gear and will take pictures.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
Currently in limbo in Muskegon, Michigan

On 7/9/2017 8:51 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Neil,

Very sorry to hear.  Hope the inspection goes better than expected.

Wish I had parts to help you.

Will you have pictures available later?

Dennis C.

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, schiller via CnC-List 
> wrote:


We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon,
Michigan yesterday.  The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and
the chain plate pulled out through the deck. The mast snapped at
the spreaders and fell off to the leeward side.

We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race. 
The conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts

when the chain plate failed. Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been
on a beam reach doing 7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled
to see if we were going to be able to point to the turning mark
when it failed.  We had about twenty seconds between hearing the
pop and having the chain plate fly out of the deck with the mast
failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure.  I was just
starting out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the
slack leeward shroud.  The helmsman had just started turning into
the wind.

After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed
and get the jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit. 
Took the boat back in to Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it

in their haulout well until Monday when they can start assessing it.

It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will
support a new mast and structural repairs necessary.

The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed
in the bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22
years ago) but the wood in the area does not look good.

I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.

Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan
(Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)

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[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Neil,

Very sorry to hear.  Hope the inspection goes better than expected.

Wish I had parts to help you.

Will you have pictures available later?

Dennis C.

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, schiller via CnC-List  wrote:

> We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan
> yesterday.  The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate
> pulled out through the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell
> off to the leeward side.
>
> We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race.  The
> conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the chain
> plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been on a beam reach doing
> 7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled to see if we were going to be
> able to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We had about twenty
> seconds between hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the
> deck with the mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure.  I
> was just starting out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the
> slack leeward shroud.  The helmsman had just started turning into the wind.
>
> After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get
> the jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit.  Took the boat back
> in to Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well until
> Monday when they can start assessing it.
>
> It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a new
> mast and structural repairs necessary.
>
> The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the
> bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the
> wood in the area does not look good.
>
> I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
> (C 35, Mark I)
> "Corsair"
> White Lake, Michigan
> (Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)
>
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>
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Re: Stus-List Broke my boat

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Neil,

So sorry for your loss!  Same thing happened to a Sabre last week.

Joel

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 7:34 AM schiller via CnC-List 
wrote:

> We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan
> yesterday.  The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate
> pulled out through the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell
> off to the leeward side.
>
> We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race.  The
> conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the chain
> plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been on a beam reach doing
> 7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled to see if we were going to be
> able to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We had about twenty
> seconds between hearing the pop and having the chain plate fly out of the
> deck with the mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the cockpit at failure.  I
> was just starting out to crash drop sails from the first pop and seeing the
> slack leeward shroud.  The helmsman had just started turning into the wind.
>
> After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get
> the jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit.  Took the boat back
> in to Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well until
> Monday when they can start assessing it.
>
> It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a new
> mast and structural repairs necessary.
>
> The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the
> bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the
> wood in the area does not look good.
>
> I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
> (C 35, Mark I)
> "Corsair"
> White Lake, Michigan
> (Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)
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>
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> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
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Stus-List Broke my boat

[schiller via CnC-List]

We were dis masted yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan 
yesterday.  The starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain 
plate pulled out through the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders 
and fell off to the leeward side.


We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline race. The 
conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts when the 
chain plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been on a beam 
reach doing 7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled to see if we were 
going to be able to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We had 
about twenty seconds between hearing the pop and having the chain plate 
fly out of the deck with the mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the 
cockpit at failure.  I was just starting out to crash drop sails from 
the first pop and seeing the slack leeward shroud.  The helmsman had 
just started turning into the wind.


After about an hour, we were able to get the main off and stowed and get 
the jib on deck with the mast lashed to the bow pulpit. Took the boat 
back in to Muskegon to Torresen Marine and left it in their haulout well 
until Monday when they can start assessing it.


It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will support a 
new mast and structural repairs necessary.


The starboard chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in 
the bulkhead and added a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) 
but the wood in the area does not look good.


I will keep the list updated with how things pan out.

Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan
(Now residing in Muskegon for the time being)
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