Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 149, Issue 6

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Greg — if you have an AutoCAD .dwg file and this was for an Edson radial drive, 
I’d like to get a copy from you.  Email me off-list — thanks!

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 2, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Greg Swetka via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Re: autopilot selection and installation 
> 
> I have a 35mkll that would not work with any of the wheel pilots so I had to 
> go with an under deck installation. It is great... quiet unobtrusive and 
> responsive. I went with the Raymarine because it was the most popular at the 
> time. The installation was tricky due to the lack of exposed rudder shaft, so 
> I designed and had a local machine shop fabricate two plates that sandwiched 
> the quadrant and gave me the correct distance from the post for mounting the 
> pilot ram. I designed it so that bolts fit into the openings in the casting, 
> snug against the inner wall so that there was no need to drill holes in the 
> quadrant, possibly weakening it. I have been very happy with the 
> installation. I believe that I still have templates in Autodesk Inventor. 
> Greg Swetka 
> S.V. Piper
> Lake Ste. Clair, MI
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>>  1. Re:  Roll pin size (Persuasion37)
>>  2.  Autopilot selection and install (Allan Hester)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 11:45:31 -0400
>> From: Persuasion37 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Roll pin size
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>> Hi Tom
>> 
>> I also have a Harken roller and have been looking for roll pins.  On mine 
>> the pins are 1/8? dia and about an inch long.  Canadian Tire has 1/8X3/4.  
>> Also Princess Auto as a package of 120 roll pins of various sizes.  Once I 
>> find a 1 inch one I?ll have to file/grind to the right length.
>> 
>> I believe you will do more damage if you try to drill the roll pins.  They 
>> are very hard.  Use a new roll pin and clamp to press the old pin out.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Mike
>> PERSUASION
>> C 37 K/CB
>> Long Sault
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 7:44 PM, T power via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, I need to replace a foil on my elderly harken furler. They are 
>>> joined with roll pins,
>>> which will need to be drilled out. Anyone have any idea what size they 
>>> would be. Thanks for any help
>>> 
>>> Tom Power
>>> Invictus
>>> C 30 MK1
>>> Fredericton, NB
>>> ___
>>> 
>>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
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>> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 15:58:14 +
>> From: Allan Hester 
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> Subject: Stus-List Autopilot selection and install
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>> 
>> Hi Fred and listers,
>> 
>> 
>> As you know, I am considering a new autopilot. Autopilots are something I 
>> know nothing about.
>> 
>> The Raymarine ST4000 currently installed works but it is very old and is not 
>> capable of steering the boat straight in anything other than a relatively 
>> flat sea state.
>> 
>> However, it does the job, after a fashion. Its also quite noisy. Everytime 
>> it adjusts course it squeaks. It may only need some lubrication. I will 
>> lubricate the wheel over the next few days. Are the new units noisy?
>> 
>> I have been in the port side lazarette many times. As you can appreciate it 
>> is a cramped space. I installed a new Espar heater last winter and crawling 
>> in that hole was very uncomfortable even with the port scupper hose removed. 
>> 
>> I have no plans to sail offshore in a C 35. So I wonder if the added 
>> expense and difficulty of install for an under deck autopilot is really 
>> necessary? Perhaps the new wheel pilots will track better than my old ST4000 
>> and offer 
>> strong, reliable, quiet performance? 
>> 
>> I have taken a cursory 

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 149, Issue 6

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

Re: autopilot selection and installation 

I have a 35mkll that would not work with any of the wheel pilots so I had to go 
with an under deck installation. It is great... quiet unobtrusive and 
responsive. I went with the Raymarine because it was the most popular at the 
time. The installation was tricky due to the lack of exposed rudder shaft, so I 
designed and had a local machine shop fabricate two plates that sandwiched the 
quadrant and gave me the correct distance from the post for mounting the pilot 
ram. I designed it so that bolts fit into the openings in the casting, snug 
against the inner wall so that there was no need to drill holes in the 
quadrant, possibly weakening it. I have been very happy with the installation. 
I believe that I still have templates in Autodesk Inventor. 
Greg Swetka 
S.V. Piper
Lake Ste. Clair, MI


Sent from my iPad

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> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1. Re:  Roll pin size (Persuasion37)
>   2.  Autopilot selection and install (Allan Hester)
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 11:45:31 -0400
> From: Persuasion37 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Roll pin size
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Tom
> 
> I also have a Harken roller and have been looking for roll pins.  On mine the 
> pins are 1/8? dia and about an inch long.  Canadian Tire has 1/8X3/4.  Also 
> Princess Auto as a package of 120 roll pins of various sizes.  Once I find a 
> 1 inch one I?ll have to file/grind to the right length.
> 
> I believe you will do more damage if you try to drill the roll pins.  They 
> are very hard.  Use a new roll pin and clamp to press the old pin out.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 7:44 PM, T power via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, I need to replace a foil on my elderly harken furler. They are 
>> joined with roll pins,
>> which will need to be drilled out. Anyone have any idea what size they would 
>> be. Thanks for any help
>> 
>> Tom Power
>> Invictus
>> C 30 MK1
>> Fredericton, NB
>> ___
>> 
>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
>> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> 
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> From: Allan Hester 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List Autopilot selection and install
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> 
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> 
> Hi Fred and listers,
> 
> 
> As you know, I am considering a new autopilot. Autopilots are something I 
> know nothing about.
> 
> The Raymarine ST4000 currently installed works but it is very old and is not 
> capable of steering the boat straight in anything other than a relatively 
> flat sea state.
> 
> However, it does the job, after a fashion. Its also quite noisy. Everytime it 
> adjusts course it squeaks. It may only need some lubrication. I will 
> lubricate the wheel over the next few days. Are the new units noisy?
> 
> I have been in the port side lazarette many times. As you can appreciate it 
> is a cramped space. I installed a new Espar heater last winter and crawling 
> in that hole was very uncomfortable even with the port scupper hose removed. 
> 
> I have no plans to sail offshore in a C 35. So I wonder if the added 
> expense and difficulty of install for an under deck autopilot is really 
> necessary? Perhaps the new wheel pilots will track better than my old ST4000 
> and offer 
> strong, reliable, quiet performance? 
> 
> I have taken a cursory look the quadrant and rudder post in the past. It 
> doesn't appear to me there is any room to attach anything to the post. I 
> think my only option in that regard is doing what Paul did on his LF 38 and 
> attach 
> 
> the drive to the quadrant.
> 
> This is a project that I will tackle after the current sailing season. At 
> this point I am looking for advice from those who have experience in this 
> area.
> 
> Thanks in advance