Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

2019-06-25 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List


Hi Fred,  

 I'll try what you suggest, but given the comment from Garmin, I kind of expect 
I'll end up going down the road of the Actisense NGW-1-STNG.  I have a Seatalk 
NG network now.
Thank you!!! 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 7:17:46 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Okay, you had me confused for awhile…
You don’t currently have DSC info from the VHF to the plotter; you have GPS 
from the plotter to the VHF, for positional info.  This is different from DSC, 
which would be call info from the VHF to display on the plotter.
If you connect the following wires, and change the plotter to receive 38,400 
baud data, you may get everything you need:
Garmin                 VHF        
Blue (NMEA Out+)  ==>  Blue  (NMEA In+)Brown (NMEA In+)  <==  Brown (AIS HS 
Data Out+)Black (Gnd)       ==>  Green (Gnd)
This is one thing I dislike about Garmin; their documentation and settings on 
the technical side leave something to be desired.  The User Manual doesn’t 
specify whether or not switching the NMEA0183 input port’s data speed also 
affects the output port.  In this case, the Garmin output needs to be at 4800 
baud (for positional data), and the input port needs to be at 38,400 baud (for 
AIS).  If switching the input port in the settings menu causes both to switch 
to 38,400, you’ll lose the GPS data going to the VHF, as it wants to receive 
position data at 4800.  But it may be worth a try to see what happens.
If this don’t work, I’d suggest an Actisense NGW-1-STNG, configured for AIS, to 
get the AIS sentences from the VHF to the NMEA2000 input of the plotter.  If 
you don’t yet have an NMEA2000 or SeaTalkNG network, you’ll need to build one.  
I can help you design that, if needed, as well as configure the NGW-1.
— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hi Fred,
The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=11=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information would 
work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the brown 
input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH wire is 
connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be adjusted for the 
NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS information, but the radio 
will not get the DSC information.  

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
that model.
I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure something 
out.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hello all,
I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, I 
have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears to 
be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, and 
the DSC is working correctly.  

The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
(brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  

Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG system? 

I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the rather 
cryptic response shown below.
It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.

Thanks in advance, 

Bruce Whitmore


Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

2019-06-25 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Okay, you had me confused for awhile…

You don’t currently have DSC info from the VHF to the plotter; you have GPS 
from the plotter to the VHF, for positional info.  This is different from DSC, 
which would be call info from the VHF to display on the plotter.

If you connect the following wires, and change the plotter to receive 38,400 
baud data, you may get everything you need:

Garmin VHF

Blue (NMEA Out+)  ==>  Blue  (NMEA In+)
Brown (NMEA In+)  <==  Brown (AIS HS Data Out+)
Black (Gnd)   ==>  Green (Gnd)

This is one thing I dislike about Garmin; their documentation and settings on 
the technical side leave something to be desired.  The User Manual doesn’t 
specify whether or not switching the NMEA0183 input port’s data speed also 
affects the output port.  In this case, the Garmin output needs to be at 4800 
baud (for positional data), and the input port needs to be at 38,400 baud (for 
AIS).  If switching the input port in the settings menu causes both to switch 
to 38,400, you’ll lose the GPS data going to the VHF, as it wants to receive 
position data at 4800.  But it may be worth a try to see what happens.

If this don’t work, I’d suggest an Actisense NGW-1-STNG, configured for AIS, to 
get the AIS sentences from the VHF to the NMEA2000 input of the plotter.  If 
you don’t yet have an NMEA2000 or SeaTalkNG network, you’ll need to build one.  
I can help you design that, if needed, as well as configure the NGW-1.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=11=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
>  
> 
> 
> Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
>  
> 
> 
> I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
> blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
> 21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information 
> would work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the 
> brown input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH 
> wire is connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be 
> adjusted for the NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS 
> information, but the radio will not get the DSC information.  
> 
> Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
> that model.
> 
> I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
> Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure 
> something out.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, 
>> I have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, 
>> appears to be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates 
>> & such, and the DSC is working correctly.  
>> 
>> The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
>> identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
>> (brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
>> 34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single 
>> wire without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
>> 
>> However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
>> NG), then 

Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

2019-06-25 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hi Fred,
Yes, the blue and brown wire currently coming out of the Garmin unit provide 
NMEA GPS position data to the the VHF (GX 2100).  That appears to be working 
adequately, it is only getting the AIS data to the Garmin that is currently the 
issue.

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 4:10:30 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce — are you also feeding GPS position data from the Garmin to the GX2100?
— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hi Fred,
The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=11=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information would 
work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the brown 
input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH wire is 
connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be adjusted for the 
NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS information, but the radio 
will not get the DSC information.  

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
that model.
I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure something 
out.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hello all,
I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, I 
have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears to 
be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, and 
the DSC is working correctly.  

The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
(brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  

Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG system? 

I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the rather 
cryptic response shown below.
It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.

Thanks in advance, 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

   - Forwarded Message - From: Juan Hernandez 
To: Bruce Whitmore Sent: 
Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDTSubject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to 
Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV
 
Hello Bruce:
  
 
Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS data 
at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source on your 
SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, this should 
work without issue.
  

Best regards,

Juan Hernandez

j.hernan...@yaesu.com
  

Yaesu USA

Standard Horizon

6125 Phyllis Drive

Cypress,  Ca 90630

Ph: 714-827-7600

Fx: 714-527-9472
  

www.yaesu.com

www.standardhorizon.com
 

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From: Bruce Whitmore  
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
To: Juan Hernandez 
Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
Plus 94SV
   
 
Hello,
   
 
I have a GX2100 that was recently sent to you to have 

Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

2019-06-25 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Bruce — are you also feeding GPS position data from the Garmin to the GX2100?

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=11=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
>  
> 
> 
> Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
>  
> 
> 
> I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
> blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
> 21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information 
> would work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the 
> brown input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH 
> wire is connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be 
> adjusted for the NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS 
> information, but the radio will not get the DSC information.  
> 
> Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
> that model.
> 
> I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
> Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure 
> something out.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, 
>> I have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, 
>> appears to be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates 
>> & such, and the DSC is working correctly.  
>> 
>> The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
>> identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
>> (brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
>> 34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single 
>> wire without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
>> 
>> However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
>> NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG 
>> system? 
>> 
>> I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the 
>> rather cryptic response shown below.
>> 
>> It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> 
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net 
>> 
>> 
>> - Forwarded Message -
>> From: Juan Hernandez mailto:j.hernan...@yaesu.com>>
>> To: Bruce Whitmore mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDT
>> Subject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 94SV
>> 
>> Hello Bruce:
>> 
>>  
>> Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS 
>> data at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source 
>> on your SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, 
>> this should work without issue.
>> 
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Juan Hernandez
>> 
>> j.hernan...@yaesu.com 
>>  
>> Yaesu USA
>> 
>> Standard Horizon
>> 
>> 6125 Phyllis Drive
>> 
>> Cypress,  Ca 90630
>> 
>> Ph: 714-827-7600
>> 
>> Fx: 714-527-9472
>> 
>>  
>> www.yaesu.com 
>> 

Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

2019-06-25 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hi Fred,
The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=11=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information would 
work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the brown 
input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH wire is 
connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be adjusted for the 
NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS information, but the radio 
will not get the DSC information.  

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
that model.
I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure something 
out.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hello all,
I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, I 
have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears to 
be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, and 
the DSC is working correctly.  

The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
(brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  

Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG system? 

I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the rather 
cryptic response shown below.
It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.

Thanks in advance, 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

   - Forwarded Message - From: Juan Hernandez 
To: Bruce Whitmore Sent: 
Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDTSubject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to 
Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV
 
Hello Bruce:
  
 
Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS data 
at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source on your 
SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, this should 
work without issue.
  

Best regards,

Juan Hernandez

j.hernan...@yaesu.com
  

Yaesu USA

Standard Horizon

6125 Phyllis Drive

Cypress,  Ca 90630

Ph: 714-827-7600

Fx: 714-527-9472
  

www.yaesu.com

www.standardhorizon.com
 

This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information 
intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you 
are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any disclosure, 
copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on 
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From: Bruce Whitmore  
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
To: Juan Hernandez 
Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
Plus 94SV
   
 
Hello,
   
 
I have a GX2100 that was recently sent to you to have the MMSI removed and 
re-entered.  I have also recently replaced an old Raymarine chart plotter with 
a new Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV.  It is hooked to my marine gauges via Raymarine 
Seatalk NG.  I have connected the GX2100 to the Garmin unit using the green, 
blue and gray wires, and the VHF appears to properly display the coordinates.  
However, the GPS does not have another wire connection so that it can show the 
AIS information.  Is there a way to connect the GX2100 to the Seatalk NG 
backbone in such a way that the AIS information will show up on the Garmin 
unit?  
 

Thank you for your insights, 
 
Bruce Whitmore

(847) 

Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

2019-06-25 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
A quick look at the manual for the EchoMap Plus 72sv shows that the Garmin does 
NOT recognize any AIS sentences over NMEA0183 at all.  So it looks like you 
have NMEA2000 in your future to get things connected.  I’d suggest an Actisense 
NGW-1-STNG converter to get all of your data back and forth between the VHF and 
the plotter.  It will convert the 38,400 baud high-speed NMEA0183 from the 
radio into NMEA2000 (SeaTalkNG), and should allow GPS data to get to the VHF 
the same way.

— Fred



Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
> that model.
> 
> I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
> Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure 
> something out.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, 
>> I have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, 
>> appears to be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates 
>> & such, and the DSC is working correctly.  
>> 
>> The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
>> identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
>> (brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
>> 34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single 
>> wire without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
>> 
>> However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
>> NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG 
>> system? 
>> 
>> I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the 
>> rather cryptic response shown below.
>> 
>> It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> 
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net 
>> 
>> 
>> - Forwarded Message -
>> From: Juan Hernandez mailto:j.hernan...@yaesu.com>>
>> To: Bruce Whitmore mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDT
>> Subject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 94SV
>> 
>> Hello Bruce:
>> 
>>  
>> Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS 
>> data at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source 
>> on your SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, 
>> this should work without issue.
>> 
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Juan Hernandez
>> 
>> j.hernan...@yaesu.com 
>>  
>> Yaesu USA
>> 
>> Standard Horizon
>> 
>> 6125 Phyllis Drive
>> 
>> Cypress,  Ca 90630
>> 
>> Ph: 714-827-7600
>> 
>> Fx: 714-527-9472
>> 
>>  
>> www.yaesu.com 
>> www.standardhorizon.com 
>>  
>> This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information 
>> intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If 
>> you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any 
>> disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any 
>> action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
>> 
>>  
>> From: Bruce Whitmore > > 
>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
>> To: Juan Hernandez mailto:j.hernan...@yaesu.com>>
>> Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
>> Plus 94SV
>> 
>>  
>> Hello,
>> 
>>  
>> I have a GX2100 that was recently sent to you to have the MMSI removed and 
>> re-entered.  I have also recently replaced an old Raymarine chart plotter 
>> with a new Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV.  It is hooked to my marine gauges via 
>> Raymarine Seatalk NG.  I have connected the GX2100 to the Garmin unit using 
>> the green, blue and gray wires, and the VHF appears to properly display the 
>> coordinates.  However, the GPS does not have another wire connection so that 
>> it can show the AIS information.  Is there a way to connect the GX2100 to 
>> the Seatalk NG backbone in such a way that the AIS information will show up 
>> on the Garmin unit?  
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for your insights,
>> 
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net 
>> ___
> 
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Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

2019-06-25 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
that model.

I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure something 
out.

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
> Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, 
> I have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears 
> to be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, 
> and the DSC is working correctly.  
> 
> The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
> identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
> (brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
> 34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
> without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
> 
> However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
> NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  
> 
> Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG 
> system? 
> 
> I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the 
> rather cryptic response shown below.
> 
> It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> - Forwarded Message -
> From: Juan Hernandez 
> To: Bruce Whitmore 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDT
> Subject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin 
> Echomap Plus 94SV
> 
> Hello Bruce:
> 
>  
> Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS data 
> at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source on your 
> SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, this 
> should work without issue.
> 
>  
> Best regards,
> 
> Juan Hernandez
> 
> j.hernan...@yaesu.com 
>  
> Yaesu USA
> 
> Standard Horizon
> 
> 6125 Phyllis Drive
> 
> Cypress,  Ca 90630
> 
> Ph: 714-827-7600
> 
> Fx: 714-527-9472
> 
>  
> www.yaesu.com 
> www.standardhorizon.com 
>  
> This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information 
> intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If 
> you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any 
> disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any 
> action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
> 
>  
> From: Bruce Whitmore  
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
> To: Juan Hernandez 
> Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
> Plus 94SV
> 
>  
> Hello,
> 
>  
> I have a GX2100 that was recently sent to you to have the MMSI removed and 
> re-entered.  I have also recently replaced an old Raymarine chart plotter 
> with a new Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV.  It is hooked to my marine gauges via 
> Raymarine Seatalk NG.  I have connected the GX2100 to the Garmin unit using 
> the green, blue and gray wires, and the VHF appears to properly display the 
> coordinates.  However, the GPS does not have another wire connection so that 
> it can show the AIS information.  Is there a way to connect the GX2100 to the 
> Seatalk NG backbone in such a way that the AIS information will show up on 
> the Garmin unit?  
> 
> 
> Thank you for your insights,
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___

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Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

2019-06-25 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hello all,
I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, I 
have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears to 
be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, and 
the DSC is working correctly.  

The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
(brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  

Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG system? 

I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the rather 
cryptic response shown below.
It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.

Thanks in advance, 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

   - Forwarded Message - From: Juan Hernandez 
To: Bruce Whitmore Sent: 
Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDTSubject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to 
Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV
 
Hello Bruce:
 
  
 
Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS data 
at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source on your 
SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, this should 
work without issue.
 
  
 
Best regards,
 
Juan Hernandez
 
j.hernan...@yaesu.com
 
  
 
Yaesu USA
 
Standard Horizon
 
6125 Phyllis Drive
 
Cypress,  Ca 90630
 
Ph: 714-827-7600
 
Fx: 714-527-9472
 
  
 
www.yaesu.com
 
www.standardhorizon.com
 
 
 
This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information 
intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you 
are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any disclosure, 
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it, is strictly prohibited.
 
  
 
From: Bruce Whitmore  
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
To: Juan Hernandez 
Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
Plus 94SV
 
  
 
Hello,
 
  
 
I have a GX2100 that was recently sent to you to have the MMSI removed and 
re-entered.  I have also recently replaced an old Raymarine chart plotter with 
a new Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV.  It is hooked to my marine gauges via Raymarine 
Seatalk NG.  I have connected the GX2100 to the Garmin unit using the green, 
blue and gray wires, and the VHF appears to properly display the coordinates.  
However, the GPS does not have another wire connection so that it can show the 
AIS information.  Is there a way to connect the GX2100 to the Seatalk NG 
backbone in such a way that the AIS information will show up on the Garmin 
unit?  
 

Thank you for your insights, 
 
Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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