Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names
Edd Mine has been jammed up for at least 4 years. Always say I should find a travel lift and RRR the centre board. Just doesn't seem to be worth the aggregation. Don't miss it, but I would never glass it over. Way back when I was looking for a boat there was a CC 37 K/CB for sale around Annapolis that the owner applied torpedoes to the keel and removed the CB. My broker really want me to look at it to satisfy his curiosity but I didn't. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Date: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Dwight, Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model -- better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and raising the board is quiet and it's great to have some control over how much you can have down there depending on wind strength -- Then, I joined this list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board doing (uninsured) damage to the keel. So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). Now that I'm transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain the cable again. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight dwight...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Edd I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q's name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think. Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would sort of fit with your theme. Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don't know much about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes. Is the drop part noisy with movement when down and under sail? Cheers Dwight -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.comcnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay *Sent:* March 7, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names Dwight, Thanks. It's a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior labeling, I figure if you're going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you might as well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will confirm, the back of the boat says: ENTERPRISE - NCC-1701-B - NEW YORK, NEW YORK PLANET EARTH ALPHA QUADRANT As for the interior cushions -- say good bye. We FINALLY got rid of the Golden Girls floral print design and now have a soft light brown microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed. As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and crew boss, Dave. However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan Stanley and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his head while on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call him by his name Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back to age 8, as my Spock. PS - His/Her/Their name is Q, not Cue All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Loghttp://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names
I wouldn’t remove the board or add a bulb — never sure I’d get the weight just right. I’m just thinking of glassing the board in. Id say, right now, I’m sailing 90-95 percent of the time with the board up anyway. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Edd Mine has been jammed up for at least 4 years. Always say I should find a travel lift and RRR the centre board. Just doesn't seem to be worth the aggregation. Don't miss it, but I would never glass it over. Way back when I was looking for a boat there was a CC 37 K/CB for sale around Annapolis that the owner applied torpedoes to the keel and removed the CB. My broker really want me to look at it to satisfy his curiosity but I didn't. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Date: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Dwight, Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model — better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and raising the board is quiet and it’s great to have some control over how much you can have down there depending on wind strength — Then, I joined this list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board doing (uninsured) damage to the keel. So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). Now that I’m transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain the cable again. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight dwight...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Edd I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q’s name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think. Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would sort of fit with your theme. Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don’t know much about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes. Is the drop part noisy with movement when down and under sail? Cheers Dwight From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: March 7, 2014 10:55 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names Dwight, Thanks. It’s a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior labeling, I figure if you’re going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you might as well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will confirm, the back of the boat says: ENTERPRISE - NCC-1701-B - NEW YORK, NEW YORK PLANET EARTH ALPHA QUADRANT As for the interior cushions — say good bye. We FINALLY got rid of the “Golden Girls” floral print design and now have a soft light brown microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed. As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and crew boss, Dave. However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan Stanley and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his head while on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call him by his name Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back to age 8, as my “Spock”. PS - His/Her/Their name is “Q”, not “Cue” All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names
If you are sailing almost all the time with the board up, why not just put a bolt through it and leave it where it is? When, (and if) you decide to sell, the next buyer can make his/her mind up about using it. You could even fashion a cover for the slot and improve your performance by getting rid of the turbulence. I would hesitate to stick the board up in a permanent fashion. Gary (another shallow water sailor) - Original Message - From: Edd Schillay To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names I wouldn’t remove the board or add a bulb — never sure I’d get the weight just right. I’m just thinking of glassing the board in. Id say, right now, I’m sailing 90-95 percent of the time with the board up anyway. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Edd Mine has been jammed up for at least 4 years. Always say I should find a travel lift and RRR the centre board. Just doesn't seem to be worth the aggregation. Don't miss it, but I would never glass it over. Way back when I was looking for a boat there was a CC 37 K/CB for sale around Annapolis that the owner applied torpedoes to the keel and removed the CB. My broker really want me to look at it to satisfy his curiosity but I didn't. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Date: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Dwight, Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model — better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and raising the board is quiet and it’s great to have some control over how much you can have down there depending on wind strength — Then, I joined this list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board doing (uninsured) damage to the keel. So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). Now that I’m transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain the cable again. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight dwight...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Edd I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q’s name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think. Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would sort of fit with your theme. Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don’t know much about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes. Is the drop part noisy with movement when down and under sail? Cheers Dwight -- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: March 7, 2014 10:55 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names Dwight, Thanks. It’s a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior labeling, I figure if you’re going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you might as well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will confirm, the back of the boat says: ENTERPRISE - NCC-1701-B - NEW YORK, NEW YORK PLANET EARTH ALPHA QUADRANT As for the interior cushions — say good bye. We FINALLY got rid of the “Golden Girls” floral print design and now have a soft light brown microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed. As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and crew boss, Dave. However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan Stanley and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his head while on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call him by his name Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back to age 8, as my “Spock”. PS - His/Her/Their name is “Q”, not “Cue” All the best, Edd
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Gary, Interesting — How would you bolt through it without affecting the hydrodynamics of the keel shape? And what kind of cover? I figure the next owner could always cut the glass open and restore the slot if he/she wants. No? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net wrote: If you are sailing almost all the time with the board up, why not just put a bolt through it and leave it where it is? When, (and if) you decide to sell, the next buyer can make his/her mind up about using it. You could even fashion a cover for the slot and improve your performance by getting rid of the turbulence. I would hesitate to stick the board up in a permanent fashion. Gary (another shallow water sailor) - ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names
Right now, you have a slot which is a bit wider than the board which creates some drag. Most of the keels I've seen are rather flat on the bottom, so you could build a cover out of aluminum or copper and form it to fit over the hole. Then fasten it with flat head screws. If you made it strong (thick) enough, you wouldn't have to use a bolt.. I would put some butyl between the cover and the keel, to keep the stale water out. For the bolt if you decide to go that way, (I'm assuming the keel is somewhat 'fat' like the ones I've seen around here) you could use a carriage bolt or a flat head bolt where the head wouldn't be protruding very much and countersink the nut on the other side. A little putty would cover the nut and it should be better than the slot you have now. Removing the cover would be easier for the next owner than cutting away the glass. Our workboat guys around here put copper covers over everything - about 1/16 of an inch thick - it won't produce much drag. They use copper nails as well, but I would use screws. Just an idea. Gary - Original Message - From: Edd Schillay To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names Gary, Interesting — How would you bolt through it without affecting the hydrodynamics of the keel shape? And what kind of cover? I figure the next owner could always cut the glass open and restore the slot if he/she wants. No? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net wrote: If you are sailing almost all the time with the board up, why not just put a bolt through it and leave it where it is? When, (and if) you decide to sell, the next buyer can make his/her mind up about using it. You could even fashion a cover for the slot and improve your performance by getting rid of the turbulence. I would hesitate to stick the board up in a permanent fashion. Gary (another shallow water sailor) - -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
