Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows - welcome

2015-11-10 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List 
Me too. She's an '84 35mk3. Though not perfect, appears to be very well cared 
for and well outfitted. Has new port lights, recent rod rigging, fuel tank and 
rebuild of 3gm. Interesting thing about window refit is a ss frame around them. 
Haven't seen that in my research before. Things I need peace of mind with is 
hull integrity and hull/deck joint. There is also a bead of silicone along toe 
rail. This raises an eyebrow.  I know a 30 year old boat will have issues but 
there are issues I can deal with and others I don't have the time or energy to 
deal with.  I've done the soda blast and hull surface restore before and can do 
it again, but I don't want to face recoring. After a year search I'm settled on 
a C though. Hence joining the list.  I think the 35 mk 3 hits all the buttons 
for me. 
Jon.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Welcome to the list.  Hope the survey goes well.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 11:52 AM, JP Mail via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Just joined the list, minutes ago. Hopefully a new C owner after the 
>> survey in 10 days. Enjoyed the boat works video. Noticed the the East 
>> Greenwich RI tag after Gary's name. That is where the survey will take 
>> place. Small world. Sorry for the hijack. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That boatworks guy has some great videos. Thanks for the link!
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> Suhana, C 32
>>> Toronto
>>> 
 On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 Fred,
  Please note that the 3M VHB tape is available in black, eliminating 
 (I think) the need for Fusion Black paint.
 Gary
 S/V High Maintenance
 1990 C 37 Plus
 East Greenwich, RI, USA
 
 ~~~_/)~~
 
 
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> There is a great BoatWorks video on Youtube describing the VHB tape 
> method.  See link below:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQyjxVUskd8
> 
> Gary
> S/V High Maintenance
> 1999 C 37 Plus
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> 
> 
> 
> ~~~_/)~~
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 AM, robert  wrote:
>> Gary:
>> 
>> I sent you the process I used 'off list'.
>> 
>> The 2 forward windows on my boat are also curved.not exactly sure 
>> how much but it is noticeable.you can get a better idea when you 
>> take the old windows out and lay them on a flat surface.   I used Sika 
>> 295 UV with the Sika primer and I also wondered if this adhesive would 
>> hold the curved window(s) in place.  It's been 6 seasons and no problems.
>> 
>> Before installing the new windows, I wondered how I was going to 'brace 
>> them' while the Sika cured.  I explained all of that in my 'off list' 
>> email to you.  Any further questions, don't hesitate to ask.
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>>
>> 
>>> On 2015-10-21 11:07 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote:
>>> Fred,
>>>  The VHB tape with DOW Corning 795 Silicone Sealant is starting to 
>>> look like and attractive method.  I am replacing the windows over the 
>>> winter, also.  We should keep in touch.  Do I assume you would use the 
>>> gray VHB tape with the gray silicone sealant?  I am wondering if the 
>>> VHB tape will be a problem with peel.  My cabin sides are curved, so 
>>> the windows will have to be bent slightly to conform to the side of the 
>>> cabin.  I wonder if that will be a problem with the 3/8" thick  
>>>  acrylic trying to  return to a flat shape?
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> ~~~_/)~~
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 Gary — I’m going to be replacing the fixed windows on my LF38 over the 
 winter.  I’ve done the Plexus thing twice now (previous boat); this 
 time, I’m going to try the VHB tape with Dow 795 approach, like Paul 
 did on Johanna Rose: 
 http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/NewPorts.
 
 I’ll be using 3/8” bronze acrylic with a chamfer to the outside edge.
 
 — Fred
 
 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
 
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
>  I agree that 1/4" is too thin.  The other 37+ at my club has 
>

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows - welcome

2015-11-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Welcome to the list.  Hope the survey goes well.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 11:52 AM, JP Mail via CnC-List  wrote:

> Just joined the list, minutes ago. Hopefully a new C owner after the
> survey in 10 days. Enjoyed the boat works video. Noticed the the East
> Greenwich RI tag after Gary's name. That is where the survey will take
> place. Small world. Sorry for the hijack.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 7, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> That boatworks  guy has some
> great videos. Thanks for the link!
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C 32
> Toronto
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Fred,
>>  Please note that the 3M VHB tape is available in black, eliminating
>> (I think) the need for Fusion Black paint.
>> Gary
>> S/V High Maintenance
>> 1990 C 37 Plus
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>
>> ~~~_/)~~
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There is a great BoatWorks video on Youtube describing the VHB tape
>>> method.  See link below:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQyjxVUskd8
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> S/V High Maintenance
>>> 1999 C 37 Plus
>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~~~_/)~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 AM, robert 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Gary:

 I sent you the process I used 'off list'.

 The 2 forward windows on my boat are also curved.not exactly sure
 how much but it is noticeable.you can get a better idea when you take
 the old windows out and lay them on a flat surface.   I used Sika 295 UV
 with the Sika primer and I also wondered if this adhesive would hold the
 curved window(s) in place.  It's been 6 seasons and no problems.

 Before installing the new windows, I wondered how I was going to 'brace
 them' while the Sika cured.  I explained all of that in my 'off list' email
 to you.  Any further questions, don't hesitate to ask.

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 C 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.



 On 2015-10-21 11:07 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote:

 Fred,
  The VHB tape with DOW Corning 795 Silicone Sealant is starting to
 look like and attractive method.  I am replacing the windows over the
 winter, also.  We should keep in touch.  Do I assume you would use the gray
 VHB tape with the gray silicone sealant?  I am wondering if the VHB tape
 will be a problem with peel.  My cabin sides are curved, so the windows
 will have to be bent slightly to conform to the side of the cabin.  I
 wonder if that will be a problem with the 3/8" thick acrylic trying to
  return to a flat shape?

 Gary

 ~~~_/)~~


 On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Gary — I’m going to be replacing the fixed windows on my LF38 over the
> winter.  I’ve done the Plexus thing twice now (previous boat); this time,
> I’m going to try the VHB tape with Dow 795 approach, like Paul did on
> Johanna Rose: http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/NewPorts.
>
>
> I’ll be using 3/8” bronze acrylic with a chamfer to the outside edge.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield,
> WI   :^(
>
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>  I agree that 1/4" is too thin.  The other 37+ at my club has
> 5/16"  It amazes me that people with no marine design experience would
> change the design.  I plan to go with 3/8" acrylic.  But then again...
>
> The problem with Lexan (which is a polycarbonate) is that it is
> less scratch resistant than Plexiglas (acrylic).  You are probably trading
> one problem for another.
>
>  As for Plexus vs Silka 295, I am really torn.  The write-up in
> the Photo Album suggest that Plexus will be flexible enough if (big if) 
> the
> bond thickness is large enough.  To that end he added glass beads to the
> adhesive to make sure the bond thickness didn't get thinner than 0.030".
>
>  Thoughts, anyone?
>
> Gary
> S/V High Maintenance
> '90 C 37 Plus
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows - welcome

2015-11-07 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List 
Thx. Me too. She looks well cared for. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Welcome to the list.  Hope the survey goes well.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 11:52 AM, JP Mail via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Just joined the list, minutes ago. Hopefully a new C owner after the 
>> survey in 10 days. Enjoyed the boat works video. Noticed the the East 
>> Greenwich RI tag after Gary's name. That is where the survey will take 
>> place. Small world. Sorry for the hijack. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That boatworks guy has some great videos. Thanks for the link!
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> Suhana, C 32
>>> Toronto
>>> 
 On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 Fred,
  Please note that the 3M VHB tape is available in black, eliminating 
 (I think) the need for Fusion Black paint.
 Gary
 S/V High Maintenance
 1990 C 37 Plus
 East Greenwich, RI, USA
 
 ~~~_/)~~
 
 
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> There is a great BoatWorks video on Youtube describing the VHB tape 
> method.  See link below:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQyjxVUskd8
> 
> Gary
> S/V High Maintenance
> 1999 C 37 Plus
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> 
> 
> 
> ~~~_/)~~
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 AM, robert  wrote:
>> Gary:
>> 
>> I sent you the process I used 'off list'.
>> 
>> The 2 forward windows on my boat are also curved.not exactly sure 
>> how much but it is noticeable.you can get a better idea when you 
>> take the old windows out and lay them on a flat surface.   I used Sika 
>> 295 UV with the Sika primer and I also wondered if this adhesive would 
>> hold the curved window(s) in place.  It's been 6 seasons and no problems.
>> 
>> Before installing the new windows, I wondered how I was going to 'brace 
>> them' while the Sika cured.  I explained all of that in my 'off list' 
>> email to you.  Any further questions, don't hesitate to ask.
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>>
>> 
>>> On 2015-10-21 11:07 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote:
>>> Fred,
>>>  The VHB tape with DOW Corning 795 Silicone Sealant is starting to 
>>> look like and attractive method.  I am replacing the windows over the 
>>> winter, also.  We should keep in touch.  Do I assume you would use the 
>>> gray VHB tape with the gray silicone sealant?  I am wondering if the 
>>> VHB tape will be a problem with peel.  My cabin sides are curved, so 
>>> the windows will have to be bent slightly to conform to the side of the 
>>> cabin.  I wonder if that will be a problem with the 3/8" thick  
>>>  acrylic trying to  return to a flat shape?
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> ~~~_/)~~
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 Gary — I’m going to be replacing the fixed windows on my LF38 over the 
 winter.  I’ve done the Plexus thing twice now (previous boat); this 
 time, I’m going to try the VHB tape with Dow 795 approach, like Paul 
 did on Johanna Rose: 
 http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/NewPorts.
 
 I’ll be using 3/8” bronze acrylic with a chamfer to the outside edge.
 
 — Fred
 
 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
 
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
>  I agree that 1/4" is too thin.  The other 37+ at my club has 
> 5/16"  It amazes me that   people with no 
> marine design experience would change the design.  I plan to go with 
> 3/8" acrylic.  But then again...
> 
> The problem with Lexan (which is a polycarbonate) is that it is 
> less scratch resistant than Plexiglas (acrylic).  You are probably 
> trading one problem for another.
> 
>  As for Plexus vs Silka 295, I am really torn.  The write-up in 
> the Photo Album suggest that Plexus will be flexible enough if (big 
> if) the bond thickness is large enough.  To that end he added glass 
> beads to the adhesive to make sure the bond thickness didn't get 
> thinner than 0.030".
>