Stus-List Hot water heater bypass
All I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the heater when winterizing. I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close the bypass valve. Is there a better way? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass
That is how I would do it. I did something similar when I installed my day tank for the furnace. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus Lf38 Original message From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Date: 3/26/17 14:00 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass All I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the heater when winterizing. I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close the bypass valve. Is there a better way? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass
Couple of these? https://www.amazon.com/Industrial-Grade-1PYZ9-Three-Valve/dp/B001NPGIZC Dennis C. On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > All > > I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the > heater when winterizing. > I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass > below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close > the bypass valve. Is there a better way? > > Joel > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 <(301)%20541-8551> > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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They make a kit for this. It uses two 3-way valves. http://m.campingworld.com/shopping/item/quick-turn-by-pass-kit/15717 I built a system for mine before I realized that there was an off the shelf solution. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 26, 2017 5:01 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" wrote: > All > > I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the > heater when winterizing. > I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass > below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close > the bypass valve. Is there a better way? > > Joel > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 <(301)%20541-8551> > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Off the shelf will work. Great job soldering! Joel On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:39 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > They make a kit for this. It uses two 3-way valves. > http://m.campingworld.com/shopping/item/quick-turn-by-pass-kit/15717 > > I built a system for mine before I realized that there was an off the > shelf solution. > https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Mar 26, 2017 5:01 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > All > > I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the > heater when winterizing. > I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass > below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close > the bypass valve. Is there a better way? > > Joel > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 <(301)%20541-8551> > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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There is a better off the shelf system with two valves (on both ends) - Google “Camco 35953” (or 35963; they differ only in the length of the bypass hose). Works like a charm. Marek 1994 C270 “Legato” Ottawa, ON From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 17:50 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass Off the shelf will work. Great job soldering! Joel On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:39 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: They make a kit for this. It uses two 3-way valves. http://m.campingworld.com/shopping/item/quick-turn-by-pass-kit/15717 I built a system for mine before I realized that there was an off the shelf solution. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 26, 2017 5:01 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: All I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the heater when winterizing. I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close the bypass valve. Is there a better way? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Yep, my bad, I thought I had found the 2 valve system. Either will work but I'm with Marek, the 2 valve is probably better. The system I built also included a thermal regulating valve (red knob). I can crank the thermostat WAY up while at dock (and the 160 - 180° water from the engine while motoring) and it gets regulated down to whatever safe level I set. It lets me get 3 showers from a single 6 gallon tank of hot water. Josh On Mar 26, 2017 6:06 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: There is a better off the shelf system with two valves (on both ends) - Google “Camco 35953” (or 35963; they differ only in the length of the bypass hose). Works like a charm. Marek 1994 C270 “Legato” Ottawa, ON *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson via CnC-List *Sent:* Sunday, March 26, 2017 17:50 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Joel Aronson *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass Off the shelf will work. Great job soldering! Joel On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:39 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: They make a kit for this. It uses two 3-way valves. http://m.campingworld.com/shopping/item/quick-turn-by-pass-kit/15717 I built a system for mine before I realized that there was an off the shelf solution. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 26, 2017 5:01 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" wrote: All I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the heater when winterizing. I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close the bypass valve. Is there a better way? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 <(301)%20541-8551> ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! -- Joel 301 541 8551 <(301)%20541-8551> ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass
Thanks guys! So glad I asked! Joel On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 6:17 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Yep, my bad, I thought I had found the 2 valve system. Either will work > but I'm with Marek, the 2 valve is probably better. > > The system I built also included a thermal regulating valve (red knob). I > can crank the thermostat WAY up while at dock (and the 160 - 180° water > from the engine while motoring) and it gets regulated down to whatever safe > level I set. It lets me get 3 showers from a single 6 gallon tank of hot > water. > > Josh > > > On Mar 26, 2017 6:06 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > There is a better off the shelf system with two valves (on both ends) - > Google “Camco 35953” (or 35963; they differ only in the length of the > bypass hose). Works like a charm. > > > > Marek > > 1994 C270 “Legato” > > Ottawa, ON > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel > Aronson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, March 26, 2017 17:50 > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Joel Aronson > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass > > > > Off the shelf will work. Great job soldering! > > Joel > > > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:39 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > They make a kit for this. It uses two 3-way valves. > > http://m.campingworld.com/shopping/item/quick-turn-by-pass-kit/15717 > > > > I built a system for mine before I realized that there was an off the > shelf solution. > > https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms > > > > Josh Muckley > > S/V Sea Hawk > > 1989 C&C 37+ > > Solomons, MD > > > > On Mar 26, 2017 5:01 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > All > > > > I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the > heater when winterizing. > > I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass > below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close > the bypass valve. Is there a better way? > > > > Joel > > -- > > Joel > 301 541 8551 <(301)%20541-8551> > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > -- > > Joel > 301 541 8551 <(301)%20541-8551> > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass
Has anyone actually tried that RV bypass kit? How much water does it pass? Are the ports big enough? I know most systems use only a portion of the coolant but if you're running your entire engine coolant flow through it, it may not pass enough coolant to cool your engine. For only a few $$ more you can make your own that will be properly sized and use marine grade parts. Just give it some thought. Dennis C. On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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I'm going to use it on the fresh water side. Joel On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 6:28 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Has anyone actually tried that RV bypass kit? How much water does it > pass? Are the ports big enough? I know most systems use only a portion of > the coolant but if you're running your entire engine coolant flow through > it, it may not pass enough coolant to cool your engine. > > For only a few $$ more you can make your own that will be properly sized > and use marine grade parts. Just give it some thought. > > Dennis C. > > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Got it. Dennis On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I'm going to use it on the fresh water side. > > Joel > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 6:28 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Has anyone actually tried that RV bypass kit? How much water does it >> pass? Are the ports big enough? I know most systems use only a portion of >> the coolant but if you're running your entire engine coolant flow through >> it, it may not pass enough coolant to cool your engine. >> >> For only a few $$ more you can make your own that will be properly sized >> and use marine grade parts. Just give it some thought. >> >> Dennis C. >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> >> ___ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 <(301)%20541-8551> > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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I could see where a kit like that could save you a lot of antifreeze. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 17:38 To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass They make a kit for this. It uses two 3-way valves. http://m.campingworld.com/shopping/item/quick-turn-by-pass-kit/15717 I built a system for mine before I realized that there was an off the shelf solution. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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I love this topic. Back up a little. If you already have hot water... why do you need to heat it? :) ' couldn't help that, grinnin' while I hit "send" Cheers, Russ At 02:00 PM 26/03/2017, you wrote: All I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the heater when winterizing. I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close the bypass valve. Is there a better way? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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One more point. Kind of obvious, but I will mention it. When you winterise, make sure that you either drain all water out of the tank or you blow it out. I can’t drain it into the bilge (the way the bilge is designed on my boat is stupid), so I have to blow it. Btw. It saves about 5-6 gal of AF in the fall and incredible amount of grief (to flush it out) in the spring. Marek Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: March 26, 2017 18:20 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Joel Aronson<mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass Thanks guys! So glad I asked! Joel On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 6:17 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Yep, my bad, I thought I had found the 2 valve system. Either will work but I'm with Marek, the 2 valve is probably better. The system I built also included a thermal regulating valve (red knob). I can crank the thermostat WAY up while at dock (and the 160 - 180° water from the engine while motoring) and it gets regulated down to whatever safe level I set. It lets me get 3 showers from a single 6 gallon tank of hot water. Josh On Mar 26, 2017 6:06 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: There is a better off the shelf system with two valves (on both ends) - Google “Camco 35953” (or 35963; they differ only in the length of the bypass hose). Works like a charm. Marek 1994 C270 “Legato” Ottawa, ON From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 17:50 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Joel Aronson mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot water heater bypass Off the shelf will work. Great job soldering! Joel On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:39 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: They make a kit for this. It uses two 3-way valves. http://m.campingworld.com/shopping/item/quick-turn-by-pass-kit/15717 I built a system for mine before I realized that there was an off the shelf solution. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 26, 2017 5:01 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: All I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass the heater when winterizing. I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close the bypass valve. Is there a better way? Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Thanks, Russ. I've wondered about that for years! Gary S/V Kaylarah ~~~_/)~~ On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > I love this topic. > > Back up a little. If you already have hot water... why do you need to heat > it? :) > > ' couldn't help that, grinnin' while I hit "send" > > Cheers, Russ > > At 02:00 PM 26/03/2017, you wrote: > >> All >> >> I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass >> the heater when winterizing. >> I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a bypass >> below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would close >> the bypass valve. Is there a better way? >> >> Joel >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> ___ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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I'm putting in a 10 gallon tank, so that's a lot of pink stuff (and $$) saved! Amazon had the Camco for $15. Thanks again! Joel On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Thanks, Russ. I've wondered about that for years! > > Gary > S/V Kaylarah > > ~~~_/)~~ > > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> >> I love this topic. >> >> Back up a little. If you already have hot water... why do you need to >> heat it? :) >> >> ' couldn't help that, grinnin' while I hit "send" >> >> Cheers, Russ >> >> At 02:00 PM 26/03/2017, you wrote: >> >>> All >>> >>> I'm replacing my hot water heater heater and want to be able to bypass >>> the heater when winterizing. >>> I was thinking of putting shut offs on the inlet and outlet with a >>> bypass below the shut offs with its own valve. In normal operation I would >>> close the bypass valve. Is there a better way? >>> >>> Joel >>> -- >>> Joel >>> 301 541 8551 >>> ___ >>> >>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >>> >> >> >> ___ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
