Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.

[Daniel Sheer via CnC-List]

I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. Theres a 
good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop handrails at the 
cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please.
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Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Daniel,

When I run with jack lines, they go inboard from the bow cleat to the stern 
cleat on both sides. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 













> On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List 
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> I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. Theres a 
> good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop handrails at 
> the cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please.
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Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Daniel — best practice would suggest using a padeye on each side deck, about 
six feet forward of the transom. That way you won’t be dragged six feet aft of 
the boat if you go over the side while tethered.  You should also have at least 
a few padeyes installed in the cockpit well; at least one reachable from the 
companionway.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 12, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List  
wrote:

> I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. Theres a 
> good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop handrails at 
> the cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please.
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Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.

[David via CnC-List]

Bow cleats to toerail approximately 6' short of  transom...keeps the person who 
falls in next to the boat in lieu of behind the boat.   Easier to retrieve 
and/or hear/see for recue.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:02:52 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Daniel,
When I run with jack lines, they go inboard from the bow cleat to the stern 
cleat on both sides. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log




On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List  
wrote:I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. 
Theres a good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop 
handrails at the cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please.
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Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I run them from the eye for the spinnaker pole to the cleats on the cabin
top near the companionway.  They eye is close enough that crew can get to
the bow without going overboard.
In the cockpit I have 6 pad-eyes - 2 below the companionway, 2 on each side
of the cockpit just above the cockpit sole and one attached to a propane
locker.
Offshore at night or when reefed I follow the ISAF rule -clip in and stay
onboard.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Daniel,
>
> When I run with jack lines, they go inboard from the bow cleat to the
> stern cleat on both sides.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
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> On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. Theres
> a good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop handrails
> at the cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please.
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Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

For starters you need 40’ or 45’ flat nylon jacklines. It is best if you can 
find or make a set with Dynema line or steel wire inside the flat nylon. 

 

On my 38 the jacklines get rigged with the eyes attached to the two 10” cleats 
in the bow of the boat, then led on the deck inside of the shrouds, aft to the 
cockpit where they are secured to a pair of padeyes in the cockpit. The padeyes 
were left behind when I upgraded my traveler. 

 

My tethers are double ended, so crew on deck can pass inside the shrouds when 
going forward or “Hook on, hook off” to go around the outside of the shrouds. 
I’ve also been known to use the padeyes on the side of the mast for the 
reaching strut as a place to hook on when standing at the mast to reef or crank 
on the outhaul.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Sheer 
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Subject: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.

 

I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. Theres a 
good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop handrails at the 
cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please.

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Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Nylon is not the best choice for jacklines, you want something that doesn't
stretch and lose half its strength when wet. One taut centerline jackline,
if you  can rig it, the idea is to stay on the boat, not be cushioned in
your ride behind it.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 12 March 2015 at 19:10, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
wrote:

> For starters you need 40’ or 45’ flat nylon jacklines. It is best if you
> can find or make a set with Dynema line or steel wire inside the flat
> nylon.
>
>
>
> On my 38 the jacklines get rigged with the eyes attached to the two 10”
> cleats in the bow of the boat, then led on the deck inside of the shrouds,
> aft to the cockpit where they are secured to a pair of padeyes in the
> cockpit. The padeyes were left behind when I upgraded my traveler.
>
>
>
> My tethers are double ended, so crew on deck can pass inside the shrouds
> when going forward or “Hook on, hook off” to go around the outside of the
> shrouds. I’ve also been known to use the padeyes on the side of the mast
> for the reaching strut as a place to hook on when standing at the mast to
> reef or crank on the outhaul.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> *Imzadi  *C&C 38 mk 2
>
> *la Belle Aurore *C&C 25 mk1
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Sheer via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:00 PM
> *To:* Cnc-list CNC Boat Owners
> *Subject:* Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.
>
>
>
> I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. Theres
> a good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop handrails
> at the cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please.
>
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Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

On longer runs, say over 20', there is a lot of mechanical ( geometric ? )
purchase pulling on the jackline mid way. I use low stretch webbing, the
stuff sailmakers use for tacks and reinforcing corners. Even on a 28' run
firmly tightened down I can easily lift the midpoint 2'. I suspect on a 40'
run with extreme low stretch webbing pre-tensioned to 500 lbs a 250 lb
shock load at the mid span would transfer a few tons of force into the
cleats.

After you set up the jacklines have a couple of people go mid span and
give it the hardest yank they can. I would be interested in the results.

Here is an article on webbing and stretch:

http://www.balancecommunity.com/knowledge/slackline-webbing/



Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1



Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 22:29:39 -0700 
From: Jim Watts  
To: Rick Brass , 1 CnC List 
      
Subject: Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38. 
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Nylon is not the best choice for jacklines, you want something that doesn't 
stretch and lose half its strength when wet. One taut centerline jackline, 
if you  can rig it, the idea is to stay on the boat, not be cushioned in 
your ride behind it. 
 
Jim Watts 
Paradigm Shift 
C&C 35 Mk III 
Victoria, BC 
 
On 12 March 2015 at 19:10, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
wrote: 
 
> For starters you need 40? or 45? flat nylon jacklines. It is best if you 
> can find or make a set with Dynema line or steel wire inside the flat 
> nylon. 
> 
> 
> 
> On my 38 the jacklines get rigged with the eyes attached to the two 10? 
> cleats in the bow of the boat, then led on the deck inside of the shrouds, 
> aft to the cockpit where they are secured to a pair of padeyes in the 
> cockpit. The padeyes were left behind when I upgraded my traveler. 
> 
> 
> 
> My tethers are double ended, so crew on deck can pass inside the shrouds 
> when going forward or ?Hook on, hook off? to go around the outside of the 
> shrouds. I?ve also been known to use the padeyes on the side of the mast 
> for the reaching strut as a place to hook on when standing at the mast to 
> reef or crank on the outhaul. 
> 
> 
> Rick Brass 
> 
> *Imzadi  *C&C 38 mk 2 
> 
> *la Belle Aurore *C&C 25 mk1 
> 
> Washington, NC 
> 
> 
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel 
> Sheer via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:00 PM 
> *To:* Cnc-list CNC Boat Owners 
> *Subject:* Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38. 
> 
> 
> 
> I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. Theres 
> a good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop handrails 
> at the cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please. 
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Re: Stus-List How to run jacklines on an LF38.

[Wally Bryant via CnC-List]

you wrote:

I need 'em for the NE voyage. The mast is 16+ ft back from the bow. Theres a 
good, sturdy eye near the bow. I can run them to the cabintop handrails at the 
cockpit, but that seems strange. Suggestions, please.



--
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www.wbryant.com


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