Re: Stus-List Irgarol - reply from Interlux

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

My best guess is, that they switched suppliers.  That’s the problem of using a 
House Brand, they pick the lowest cost provider and keep selling it as their 
own. They probably offshored it. Pettit is Pettit. Interlux is Interlux. 

 

Just my opinion, of course.

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:17 PM
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Cc: Chuck Borge
Subject: Re: Stus-List Irgarol - reply from Interlux

 

Hi Listers,

 

For the last few years I've used the West Marine PCA Gold.  The results have 
been decent for my location in Swansea, MA at the top or Mount Hope Bay.

Last season the paint went on a little tougher than usual, and the weird thing 
was it seemed like a Flat finish, whereas the prior years were shinier (as far 
as bottom paint goes).  And out of the water it is a lot chalkier than last few 
years.  One more thing, it had a kinda purple tint after cleaning some days.

 

Other factors:

Same paint for last 3 years.

Not much build up as I put one coat overall and 2 at waterline and leading 
edges of foils  At haulout, I have some bare spots (but nothing to worry about)

I clean the bottom often, at least 2x/month and toward August and Sept- every 
week.

Launch is first week of May, haul is last week of October.

 

Any thoughts?

West Marine's product advisers didn't have much to say other than meeting EPA 
guidelines means they've had to change to formulas and that 60* at application 
is on the low side.  April in my neighborhood is hard to find many days much 
warmer than that.

 

Thanks,

Chuck B

C 34 Elusive

Somerset, MA

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Re: Stus-List Irgarol - reply from Interlux

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I switched to SeaHawk. I used to get good results with West Marine paint, but 
the last time  I used it, it seems to feed barnacles and make them grow faster ☹
I had to dive and clean the bottom within 1 month of launching ☹
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Borge 
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 14:17
To: CnClist
Cc: Chuck Borge
Subject: Re: Stus-List Irgarol - reply from Interlux

Hi Listers,

For the last few years I've used the West Marine PCA Gold.  The results have 
been decent for my location in Swansea, MA at the top or Mount Hope Bay.
Last season the paint went on a little tougher than usual, and the weird thing 
was it seemed like a Flat finish, whereas the prior years were shinier (as far 
as bottom paint goes).  And out of the water it is a lot chalkier than last few 
years.  One more thing, it had a kinda purple tint after cleaning some days.

Other factors:
Same paint for last 3 years.
Not much build up as I put one coat overall and 2 at waterline and leading 
edges of foils  At haulout, I have some bare spots (but nothing to worry about)
I clean the bottom often, at least 2x/month and toward August and Sept- every 
week.
Launch is first week of May, haul is last week of October.

Any thoughts?
West Marine's product advisers didn't have much to say other than meeting EPA 
guidelines means they've had to change to formulas and that 60* at application 
is on the low side.  April in my neighborhood is hard to find many days much 
warmer than that.

Thanks,
Chuck B
C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List Irgarol - reply from Interlux

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Reply from Interlux:

"As Interlux does not manufacture Irgarol it is unknown if and or when 
this product may come back. We are in the same position as everyone else."


I take this to mean that they currently cannot obtain it, and do not 
know if or when it may again be available.


Bill Bina


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Re: Stus-List Irgarol

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

I just emailed Interlux and asked for an unambiguous status on Irgarol. 
I'll let you know if they respond.


Bill Bina


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Re: Stus-List Irgarol

[sthoma20--- via CnC-List]

On two separate occasions in the last week, people here in Florida have told me 
that they added powdered hot pepper to their bottom paint. Seems they are 
willing to try just about anything. I don't know of any science behind it, and 
the one guy is an engineer. 

Steve Thomas
C 
On the hard
Merritt Island, FL

 Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote: 
BASF stopped producing it and said they would move production to China.
Guessing its not in production anywhere.

Joel

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Jamestown Distributers just sent out notice on this, that it is
> continuing. (the lack of Irgarol)  I also thought it was only a disruption
> for last season, but they say it is a problem this year as well, and that
> only old stock still has it.  There may be some change in the Irgarol, or
> maybe something else. Maybe they discovered it causes problems and wanted
> to get out before bad stuff happens.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman


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Re: Stus-List Irgarol

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

BASF stopped producing it and said they would move production to China.
Guessing its not in production anywhere.

Joel

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Jamestown Distributers just sent out notice on this, that it is
> continuing. (the lack of Irgarol)  I also thought it was only a disruption
> for last season, but they say it is a problem this year as well, and that
> only old stock still has it.  There may be some change in the Irgarol, or
> maybe something else. Maybe they discovered it causes problems and wanted
> to get out before bad stuff happens.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Bina - gmail via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 9:42 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Irgarol
>
>
>
> Some paints still have it, so I'm guessing the shortage was temporary.
> That story is from a year ago. I do notice that some paints no longer tout
> it as an ingredient, at least by name.
>
> <http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1=725469>
> <http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1=725469>
>
>
> <http://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--wba-dual-biocide-water-based-ablative-antifouling-paint--P014131809>
> <http://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--wba-dual-biocide-water-based-ablative-antifouling-paint--P014131809>
>
> Bill Bina
>
> On 3/14/2016 8:47 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:
>
>
> http://www.totalboatshow.com/wordpress/2015/03/13/antifouling-companies-struggle-with-the-loss-of-herbicide-irgarol/
>
>
>
> Just in case someone hasn’t gotten the whole scoop.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C 39 Erie, PA
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Irgarol

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Jamestown Distributers just sent out notice on this, that it is continuing.
(the lack of Irgarol)  I also thought it was only a disruption for last
season, but they say it is a problem this year as well, and that only old
stock still has it.  There may be some change in the Irgarol, or maybe
something else. Maybe they discovered it causes problems and wanted to get
out before bad stuff happens. 

 

Regards,

 

Bill Coleman

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina
- gmail via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 9:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Bina - gmail
Subject: Re: Stus-List Irgarol

 

Some paints still have it, so I'm guessing the shortage was temporary. That
story is from a year ago. I do notice that some paints no longer tout it as
an ingredient, at least by name. 

 <http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1=725469>
<http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1=725469>

 
<http://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--wba-dual-biocide-water-based-abl
ative-antifouling-paint--P014131809>
<http://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--wba-dual-biocide-water-based-abl
ative-antifouling-paint--P014131809>

Bill Bina

On 3/14/2016 8:47 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:

http://www.totalboatshow.com/wordpress/2015/03/13/antifouling-companies-stru
ggle-with-the-loss-of-herbicide-irgarol/

 

Just in case someone hasn't gotten the whole scoop.

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

 






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Re: Stus-List Irgarol

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Some paints still have it, so I'm guessing the shortage was temporary. 
That story is from a year ago. I do notice that some paints no longer 
tout it as an ingredient, at least by name.






Bill Bina

On 3/14/2016 8:47 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:


http://www.totalboatshow.com/wordpress/2015/03/13/antifouling-companies-struggle-with-the-loss-of-herbicide-irgarol/

Just in case someone hasn’t gotten the whole scoop.

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA



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Stus-List Irgarol

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

http://www.totalboatshow.com/wordpress/2015/03/13/antifouling-companies-struggle-with-the-loss-of-herbicide-irgarol/

 

Just in case someone hasn’t gotten the whole scoop.

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

 

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