Stus-List Masthead sheave replacement.

2016-10-23 Thread Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List 
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which I totally understand $$. 

Barbara L. Hickson

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Re: Stus-List Masthead sheave replacement

2016-10-22 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 

+1 on that. Not a good idea to go up the mast when on the hard. The stability 
of the boat is quite limited with only the jack stands or the cradle pads 
support her laterally. The mast itself is an issue. Then you would be adding 
about 80-100 kg at the very top of it (the longest arm possible). Not to 
mention that you plan to replace the halyard sheaves, which you might be using 
to get there in the first place.

Marek


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From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 10/22/16 03:28 (GMT+01:00)
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Masthead sheave replacement

Barbara,

You may want to give some thought about going up the mast when the boat is on 
jack stands. Most yards that I know of strictly forbid it.

Dave
C 37

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You should talk to Doyle Boston Sailmakers in Sarnia. They have done a lot of 
work for me over the years, including re-cutting and re-sizing, as well as a 
brand  new Dacron genoa. Not the cheapest option for new sails, but they are 
the go-to guys for the racers around here and they just might be able to 
breathe some new life into your baffed out old main. Full battens in a main can 
work wonders in light air. Or they might not, but they will tell you if you 
take the sail there. They are located close to the Bluewater Bridge and the 
Sarnia Yacht Club.

Steve Thomas
C MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

 Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> 
wrote:
Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail
loft has diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond
expired".  Cue the Monty Python...

The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and
ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)
No telltales other than streamers off the leech.
IIRC there may be a leech line.
4 partial battens battens.
There are two cringles at the clew, one above the other, and what I believe
is called a "shelf" of lighter weight cloth along the foot.  Have never
used this out of ignorance, but perhaps I should.
it has a rope foot, slides on the luff.

I will have Rolly Tasker in Thailand quote, as well as UK sails here in
Toronto.


I value the 33-2's performance but most of my sailing is recreational
sailing here on Lake Ontario.  Would like to distance race but not looking
to be ultra-competitive at the top level.  Don't want to buy another
Main for this boat in the next decade.

Any thoughts or recommendations on a replacement, or comments on sail
lofts?  Many thanks!

Dave
Windstar 33-2




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Dave

Check out Precision Sails in Victoria BC. They have a great on-line site. Sails 
are made Asia somewhere but inspected and shipped from BC.  I got a 135 and 
asym from them this year. Very happy with the product and price.



Martin

C 29-2 Recalculating

MCC Toronto



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Subject: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations



Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail loft has 
diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond expired".  Cue the Monty 
Python...



The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and 
ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)

No telltales other than streamers off the leech.

IIRC there may be a leech line.

4 partial ba

Re: Stus-List Masthead sheave replacement

2016-10-21 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
Barbara,

You may want to give some thought about going up the mast when the boat is on 
jack stands. Most yards that I know of strictly forbid it.

Dave
C 37

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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 20:48, Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My boat's on the hard prefacing a Matthew haulout.  While she's out, she's 
> due for some bottom work and thruhull replacement.  I'm going to replace the 
> main and jib halyard sheaves at the masthead while she's out of the water, 
> and while I know it's easier to replace them with the mast stepped, that's 
> not going to happen this time around.  That being said, can anyone here help 
> inform me as to what I have to do to get the sheaves out once I'm up the 
> mast? Can't find any good info online about this procedure for a 33-1.  I 
> have seen that there are pins that look like rivets on one side of the mast 
> that hold the sheaves in place.  If I can get the pins out with a 
> punch/chisel and don't lose the sheaves inside the mast, what else do I need 
> to think about?  I have spare halyards to go aloft so there wont' be tension 
> on said main and jib halyards. What tools do I need?  Thought I would block 
> the holes in the sheave block to keep them from falling down inside the mast. 
>  Any thoughts much appreciated. 
>  
> Barbara Hickson
> "Flight Risk" C 33-1
> Charleston, SC
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> You should talk to Doyle Boston Sailmakers in Sarnia. They have done a lot of 
> work for me over the years, including re-cutting and re-sizing, as well as a 
> brand  new Dacron genoa. Not the cheapest option for new sails, but they are 
> the go-to guys for the racers around here and they just might be able to 
> breathe some new life into your baffed out old main. Full battens in a main 
> can work wonders in light air. Or they might not, but they will tell you if 
> you take the sail there. They are located close to the Bluewater Bridge and 
> the Sarnia Yacht Club. 
> 
> Steve Thomas
> C MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
> 
>  Dave S via CnC-List  wrote: 
> Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail
> loft has diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond
> expired".  Cue the Monty Python...
> 
> The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and
> ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)
> No telltales other than streamers off the leech.
> IIRC there may be a leech line.
> 4 partial battens battens.
> There are two cringles at the clew, one above the other, and what I believe
> is called a "shelf" of lighter weight cloth along the foot.  Have never
> used this out of ignorance, but perhaps I should.
> it has a rope foot, slides on the luff.
> 
> I will have Rolly Tasker in Thailand quote, as well as UK sails here in
> Toronto.
> 
> 
> I value the 33-2's performance but most of my sailing is recreational
> sailing here on Lake Ontario.  Would like to distance race but not looking
> to be ultra-competitive at the top level.  Don't want to buy another
> Main for this boat in the next decade.
> 
> Any thoughts or recommendations on a replacement, or comments on sail
> lofts?  Many thanks!
> 
> Dave
> Windstar 33-2
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:59:23 -0400
> From: "Martin Kane" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations
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> Dave 
> 
> Check out Precision Sails in Victoria BC. They have a great on-line site. 
> Sails are made Asia somewhere but inspected and shipped from BC.  I got a 135 
> and asym from them this year. Very happy with the product and price.
> 
> 
> 
> Martin 
> 
> C 29-2 Recalculating
> 
> MCC Toronto
> 
> 
> 
> From: Dave S [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:56 AM
> To: C Stus List 
> Subject: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations
> 
> 
> 
> Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail loft has 
> diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond expired".  Cue the Monty

Re: Stus-List Masthead sheave replacement

2016-10-21 Thread Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List 
My boat's on the hard prefacing a Matthew haulout.  While she's out, she's due 
for some bottom work and thruhull replacement.  I'm going to replace the main 
and jib halyard sheaves at the masthead while she's out of the water, and while 
I know it's easier to replace them with the mast stepped, that's not going to 
happen this time around.  That being said, can anyone here help inform me as to 
what I have to do to get the sheaves out once I'm up the mast? Can't find any 
good info online about this procedure for a 33-1.  I have seen that there are 
pins that look like rivets on one side of the mast that hold the sheaves in 
place.  If I can get the pins out with a punch/chisel and don't lose the 
sheaves inside the mast, what else do I need to think about?  I have spare 
halyards to go aloft so there wont' be tension on said main and jib halyards. 
What tools do I need?  Thought I would block the holes in the sheave block to 
keep them from falling down inside the mast.  Any thoughts much appreciated.   
Barbara Hickson"Flight Risk" C 33-1Charleston, SC 
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You should talk to Doyle Boston Sailmakers in Sarnia. They have done a lot of 
work for me over the years, including re-cutting and re-sizing, as well as a 
brand  new Dacron genoa. Not the cheapest option for new sails, but they are 
the go-to guys for the racers around here and they just might be able to 
breathe some new life into your baffed out old main. Full battens in a main can 
work wonders in light air. Or they might not, but they will tell you if you 
take the sail there. They are located close to the Bluewater Bridge and the 
Sarnia Yacht Club. 

Steve Thomas
C MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

 Dave S via CnC-List  wrote: 
Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail
loft has diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond
expired".  Cue the Monty Python...

The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and
ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)
No telltales other than streamers off the leech.
IIRC there may be a leech line.
4 partial battens battens.
There are two cringles at the clew, one above the other, and what I believe
is called a "shelf" of lighter weight cloth along the foot.  Have never
used this out of ignorance, but perhaps I should.
it has a rope foot, slides on the luff.

I will have Rolly Tasker in Thailand quote, as well as UK sails here in
Toronto.


I value the 33-2's performance but most of my sailing is recreational
sailing here on Lake Ontario.  Would like to distance race but not looking
to be ultra-competitive at the top level.      Don't want to buy another
Main for this boat in the next decade.

Any thoughts or recommendations on a replacement, or comments on sail
lofts?  Many thanks!

Dave
Windstar 33-2




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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:59:23 -0400
From: "Martin Kane" 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations
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Dave 

Check out Precision Sails in Victoria BC. They have a great on-line site. Sails 
are made Asia somewhere but inspected and shipped from BC.  I got a 135 and 
asym from them this year. Very happy with the product and price.

 

Martin 

C 29-2 Recalculating

MCC Toronto

 

From: Dave S [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:56 AM
To: C Stus List 
Subject: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations

 

Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail loft has 
diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond expired".  Cue the Monty 
Python...

 

The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and 
ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)  

No telltales other than streamers off the leech.  

IIRC there may be a leech line.  

4 partial battens battens.  

There are two cringles at the clew, one above the other, and what I believe is 
called a "shelf" of lighter weight cloth along the foot.  Have never used this 
out of ignorance, but perhaps I should.  

it has a rope foot, slides on the luff.  

 

I will have Rolly Tasker in Thailand