Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
Hey guys, After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit. Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance for any help. Ryan ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List Moving my traveler 30mki
Thanks Gary and Marek, Gary, do you have any photos of your installation by any chance? If so, I'd love to check out how it's rigged. Does your sheet attach to the end of the boom in the same place? Do you have a bimini with this setup? Thanks again guys. Always easy to find help here. Ryan ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
I moved my traveler on my 30-1 from in front of the wheel (all of two feet long and nearly worthless) to across the companionway. I know, it is a pain to climb around when one has to go below, but how often is your traveler car centered? I thought about putting it over the companionway hood, but that was too far forward and would put too much strain on the boom. Now I get the widest possible location for the traveler and reasonable leverage for the mainsheet. I went to a 4:1/16:1 arrangement for the mainsheet – I have a regular 4:1 mainsheet arrangement (looks original for the boat) but I took the last attachment for the 4:1 and hooked up a lighter weight 4:1 assembly to it (actually I used a rope boom vang kit). It has worked well for nearly 20 years. Gary Nylander Maryland From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki Hey guys, After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit. Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance for any help. Ryan ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
Ryan, different boat, but.. On my previous boat, a C&C 24, I had a traveller about a foot astern from the companion way. There was no bridge deck there. There was no issue with the boom attachment – if anything the bail was moved back. It was great for controlling the sail, but it wrecked havoc with my wife’s shins. So before you move your traveller there, think hard if it would not make going down below too difficult. just my $0.02 Marek (ex. 1974 C&C 24 “Fennel”) Ottawa, ON From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 14:11 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki Hey guys, After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit. Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance for any help. Ryan___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
Gary and all 30-1 owners- Regarding "how often is your traveler car centered" - well, how often are your traveler cars centered? When close-hauled on your 30-1s, are you in the habit of pulling the car to windward a bit? My main has leech telltales as well as telltales on both sides farther forward, and I've had a hard time getting them all to fly at once upwind, despite messing with the angle of attack via traveler for a given leech tension via sheet & vang. I've yet to focus on ideal car position for other points of sail. When running I've been dropping it way leeward, but on all other points of sail I've pretty much been leaving it centered. At the dock I pull it all the way to port, because my dock is to starboard. I'd be interested to know how you all set your traveler on various points of sail. Cheers, Randy - Original Message - From: "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" To: "cnc-list" Cc: "Gary Nylander" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:32:39 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki I moved my traveler on my 30-1 from in front of the wheel (all of two feet long and nearly worthless) to across the companionway. I know, it is a pain to climb around when one has to go below, but how often is your traveler car centered? I thought about putting it over the companionway hood, but that was too far forward and would put too much strain on the boom. Now I get the widest possible location for the traveler and reasonable leverage for the mainsheet. I went to a 4:1/16:1 arrangement for the mainsheet – I have a regular 4:1 mainsheet arrangement (looks original for the boat) but I took the last attachment for the 4:1 and hooked up a lighter weight 4:1 assembly to it (actually I used a rope boom vang kit). It has worked well for nearly 20 years. Gary Nylander Maryland From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki Hey guys, After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit. Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance for any help. Ryan ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
A couple of questions. 1) What is the height of your boom? Pre '77 the factory standard was pretty low, under 6' from the cockpit sole to the underside of the boom. 2) When you say "moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway" I assume you to the stern of the companionway. Are you looking at tight to the cabin or as far astern as possible? I have done the project twice, once with a Harken Midrange Boat sized track and car, then upgraded to a Big Boat track and car. The main sheet is 4:1 with a separate 4:1 fine adjuster. I installed two boom bails to spread the load and have Harken 57mm Black Magic Hi load blocks on each. That setup works well but may be overkill for cruising. I race Windburn, sometimes solo, and run full main to 22 - 24 kts. I can take pictures and send them to you, or if you are near Toronto you can drop by and take a look. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Hey guys, After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit. Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance for any help. Ryan ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
Boom height is certainly a concern since regardless of the main sheet placement the boom will still limit the height of the bimini. Consider a hard top option. Since the hard material supports itself you have more versatility than with fabric. You may be able to work with a designer to develop a solution with your original main sheet arrangement. I imagine a curved slot about 4 or 5 inches wide cut through the hardtop to facilitate the main sheet. It might be possible to do it as a single piece with the slot or you might have to do it with 2 pieces. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Jun 27, 2016 2:09 PM, "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" wrote: > Hey guys, > > After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at > photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible > to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a > 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently > located at the back of the cockpit. > > Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all > fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential > to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy > sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as > that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini > top. > > I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the > companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from > the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward > will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is > going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main > sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may > also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. > > Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this > project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Ryan > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All > Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
Ryan, This is a photo of my Bimini with standard traveler placement on my 30-1. I got the Bimini from Genco as well. Obviously, it doesn't shade the entire cockpit but it's enough for the helmsman and definitely makes a difference... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B87tJUU30YcDZVpBUTQweTFqeTQ/view?usp=sharing Cheers, Aaron R. Annapolis, MD Admiral Maggie 79, 30-1 _ From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:10 PM Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Ryan Doyle mailto:ryanpdo...@gmail.com>> Hey guys, After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit. Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance for any help. Ryan ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
Hey Aaron, Thanks so much. Yeah it looks like yours is in front of the wheel though, correct? Mine is at the very very back of the cockpit. Against the transom basically. So the folks from Genco said that really kills any space for a Bimini. Thanks for the recommendation for Genco though, they seem great. Ryan Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Aaron Rouhi wrote: > > Ryan, > This is a photo of my Bimini with standard traveler placement on my 30-1. I > got the Bimini from Genco as well. Obviously, it doesn't shade the entire > cockpit but it's enough for the helmsman and definitely makes a difference... > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B87tJUU30YcDZVpBUTQweTFqeTQ/view?usp=sharing > > Cheers, > Aaron R. > Annapolis, MD > Admiral Maggie > 79, 30-1 > _ > From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:10 PM > Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki > To: > Cc: Ryan Doyle > > > Hey guys, > > After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at > photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to > shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 > 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently > located at the back of the cockpit. > > Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all > fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to > keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I > get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I > need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. > > I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the > companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the > traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will > cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to > be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I > will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to > create a new attachment point on the boom. > > Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? > Better yet... has anyone already done this? > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Ryan > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
Ryan, It is important to note that in Aaron's photo the bimini is above the height of the boom so he has basically maximized the forward projection regardless of main sheet placement. Aaron, How much head room do you think you have under the bimini? Would it be uncomfortable if you were to lower it enough to fit under the boom? Ryan, I tackled the shade issue a little differently by extending the dodger back a considerable distance. It is a hard top and allowed for a projection 6" in front and 12" behind the frame. I also have an arch that folds out to further extended the projection an additional 12" aft just shy of the mainsheet. This folding part is canvas and is easily assembled/disassembled. A considerable amount of engineering went into maximizing dodger height while not impeding on the boom. I also have cabin top winches who's swing radius needed consideration to clear the frame. Now my wife, and often an additional guest, have room to sit or lay in the companionway in the shade of the dodger. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNze1nnSQ2-T1V1Yzc2cDBwU3c/view?usp=drivesdk I also find that shade is not entirely elusive as long as one is willing to get out of the cockpit. Shade from the sails is almost always available except for a few hours at the peak of the day. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Jun 27, 2016 8:15 PM, "Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List" wrote: Ryan, This is a photo of my Bimini with standard traveler placement on my 30-1. I got the Bimini from Genco as well. Obviously, it doesn't shade the entire cockpit but it's enough for the helmsman and definitely makes a difference... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B87tJUU30YcDZVpBUTQweTFqeTQ/view?usp=sharing Cheers, Aaron R. Annapolis, MD Admiral Maggie 79, 30-1 _ From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:10 PM Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki To: Cc: Ryan Doyle Hey guys, After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit. Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance for any help. Ryan ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
Hi Ryan, How many women are we talking about here? Have you considered a non-mechanical solution by simplifying a bit? :) Some like it hot... Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 11:09 AM 27/06/2016, you wrote: Hey guys, After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit.  Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top.  I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment point on the boom.  Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance for any help. Ryan ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki & main trim
I find that I only move the traveler to windward in fairly light air. But then, since I have the shoal draft version, I don't try to point to high. If I can tack through 90deg in light to average wind I'm happy. That's good enough for workin on the river.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL From: RANDY via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: RANDY Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki Gary and all 30-1 owners- Regarding "how often is your traveler car centered" - well, how often are your traveler cars centered? When close-hauled on your 30-1s, are you in the habit of pulling the car to windward a bit? My main has leech telltales as well as telltales on both sides farther forward, and I've had a hard time getting them all to fly at once upwind, despite messing with the angle of attack via traveler for a given leech tension via sheet & vang. I've yet to focus on ideal car position for other points of sail. When running I've been dropping it way leeward, but on all other points of sail I've pretty much been leaving it centered. At the dock I pull it all the way to port, because my dock is to starboard. I'd be interested to know how you all set your traveler on various points of sail. Cheers, Randy From: "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" To: "cnc-list" Cc: "Gary Nylander" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:32:39 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki #yiv1811183191 #yiv1811183191 _filtered #yiv1811183191 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1811183191 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv1811183191 p.yiv1811183191MsoNormal, #yiv1811183191 li.yiv1811183191MsoNormal, #yiv1811183191 div.yiv1811183191MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1811183191 a:link, #yiv1811183191 span.yiv1811183191MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1811183191 a:visited, #yiv1811183191 span.yiv1811183191MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1811183191 p.yiv1811183191msonormal0, #yiv1811183191 li.yiv1811183191msonormal0, #yiv1811183191 div.yiv1811183191msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1811183191 span.yiv1811183191EmailStyle18 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv1811183191 .yiv1811183191MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv1811183191 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1811183191 div.yiv1811183191WordSection1 {}#yiv1811183191 I moved my traveler on my 30-1 from in front of the wheel (all of two feet long and nearly worthless) to across the companionway. I know, it is a pain to climb around when one has to go below, but how often is your traveler car centered? I thought about putting it over the companionway hood, but that was too far forward and would put too much strain on the boom. Now I get the widest possible location for the traveler and reasonable leverage for the mainsheet. I went to a 4:1/16:1 arrangement for the mainsheet – I have a regular 4:1 mainsheet arrangement (looks original for the boat) but I took the last attachment for the 4:1 and hooked up a lighter weight 4:1 assembly to it (actually I used a rope boom vang kit). It has worked well for nearly 20 years. Gary NylanderMaryland From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki Hey guys, After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit. Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance for any help. Ryan _