Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Hey guys,

After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at
photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible
to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler.  I have a
1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller.  The traveler is currently
located at the back of the cockpit.

Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all
fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that.  A shaded cockpit is essential
to keeping the women in my life happy sailors.  When they are happy
sailors, I get to sail.  When they are not, I don't get to sail.  Simple as
that.  So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini
top.

I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the
companionway.  This is a leverage point not significantly different from
the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki.  I know moving it forward
will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is
going to be lower.  I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main
sheet.  I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler.  I may
also have to create a new attachment point on the boom.

Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project?
Better yet... has anyone already done this?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Ryan
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Stus-List Moving my traveler 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Thanks Gary and Marek,

Gary, do you have any photos of your installation by any chance?  If so, I'd 
love to check out how it's rigged.  Does your sheet attach to the end of the 
boom in the same place?  Do you have a bimini with this setup?

Thanks again guys.  Always easy to find help here.

Ryan
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Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I moved my traveler on my 30-1 from in front of the wheel (all of two feet long 
and nearly worthless) to across the companionway. I know, it is a pain to climb 
around when one has to go below, but how often is your traveler car centered? I 
thought about putting it over the companionway hood, but that was too far 
forward and would put too much strain on the boom. Now I get the widest 
possible location for the traveler and reasonable leverage for the mainsheet.

 

I went to a 4:1/16:1 arrangement for the mainsheet – I have a regular 4:1 
mainsheet arrangement (looks original for the boat) but I took the last 
attachment for the 4:1 and hooked up a lighter weight 4:1 assembly to it 
(actually I used a rope boom vang kit). It has worked well for nearly 20 years.

 

Gary Nylander

Maryland

 

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Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

 

Hey guys, 

 

After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos 
of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my 
cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler.  I have a 1976 30mki with a 
single back stay and a tiller.  The traveler is currently located at the back 
of the cockpit.  

 

Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all 
fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that.  A shaded cockpit is essential to 
keeping the women in my life happy sailors.  When they are happy sailors, I get 
to sail.  When they are not, I don't get to sail.  Simple as that.  So, I need 
advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top.  

 

I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway.  
This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location 
on a wheel-steered 30mki.  I know moving it forward will cause the load on the 
traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower.  I might need 
extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet.  I will also need strong 
backing blocks under the traveler.  I may also have to create a new attachment 
point on the boom.  

 

Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project?  
Better yet... has anyone already done this?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Ryan

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Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Ryan,

different boat, but..

On my previous boat, a C&C 24, I had a traveller about a foot astern from the 
companion way. There was no bridge deck there. There was no issue with the boom 
attachment – if anything the bail was moved back. It was great for controlling 
the sail, but it wrecked havoc with my wife’s shins. So before you move your 
traveller there, think hard if it would not make going down below too difficult.

just my $0.02

Marek 
(ex. 1974 C&C 24 “Fennel”)
Ottawa, ON

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Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

Hey guys, 

After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos 
of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my 
cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a 
single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of 
the cockpit. 

Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all 
fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to 
keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get 
to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need 
advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. 

I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. 
This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location 
on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the 
traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need 
extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong 
backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment 
point on the boom. 

Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? 
Better yet... has anyone already done this?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
Gary and all 30-1 owners- 

Regarding "how often is your traveler car centered" - well, how often are your 
traveler cars centered? When close-hauled on your 30-1s, are you in the habit 
of pulling the car to windward a bit? My main has leech telltales as well as 
telltales on both sides farther forward, and I've had a hard time getting them 
all to fly at once upwind, despite messing with the angle of attack via 
traveler for a given leech tension via sheet & vang. I've yet to focus on ideal 
car position for other points of sail. When running I've been dropping it way 
leeward, but on all other points of sail I've pretty much been leaving it 
centered. At the dock I pull it all the way to port, because my dock is to 
starboard. I'd be interested to know how you all set your traveler on various 
points of sail. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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I moved my traveler on my 30-1 from in front of the wheel (all of two feet long 
and nearly worthless) to across the companionway. I know, it is a pain to climb 
around when one has to go below, but how often is your traveler car centered? I 
thought about putting it over the companionway hood, but that was too far 
forward and would put too much strain on the boom. Now I get the widest 
possible location for the traveler and reasonable leverage for the mainsheet. 



I went to a 4:1/16:1 arrangement for the mainsheet – I have a regular 4:1 
mainsheet arrangement (looks original for the boat) but I took the last 
attachment for the 4:1 and hooked up a lighter weight 4:1 assembly to it 
(actually I used a rope boom vang kit). It has worked well for nearly 20 years. 



Gary Nylander 

Maryland 



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Cc: Ryan Doyle  
Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki 




Hey guys, 





After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos 
of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my 
cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler. I have a 1976 30mki with a 
single back stay and a tiller. The traveler is currently located at the back of 
the cockpit. 





Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all 
fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that. A shaded cockpit is essential to 
keeping the women in my life happy sailors. When they are happy sailors, I get 
to sail. When they are not, I don't get to sail. Simple as that. So, I need 
advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. 





I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway. 
This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location 
on a wheel-steered 30mki. I know moving it forward will cause the load on the 
traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower. I might need 
extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet. I will also need strong 
backing blocks under the traveler. I may also have to create a new attachment 
point on the boom. 





Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? 
Better yet... has anyone already done this? 





Thanks in advance for any help. 





Ryan 

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Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
A couple of questions.

1)  What is the height of your boom? Pre '77 the factory standard was
pretty low, under 6' from the cockpit sole to the underside of the boom.

2) When you say "moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway"
I assume you to the stern of the companionway. Are you looking at tight to
the cabin or as far astern as possible?

I have done the project twice, once with a Harken Midrange Boat sized track and
car, then upgraded to a Big Boat track and car. The main sheet is 4:1 with a
separate 4:1 fine adjuster. I installed two boom bails to spread the load and
have Harken 57mm Black Magic Hi load blocks on each.

That setup works well but may be overkill for cruising. I race Windburn,
sometimes solo, and run full main to 22 - 24 kts.

I can take pictures and send them to you, or if you are near Toronto you
can drop by and take a look.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


 
Hey guys, 
 
After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at 
photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible 
to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler.  I have a 
1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller.  The traveler is currently 
located at the back of the cockpit. 
 
Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all 
fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that.  A shaded cockpit is essential 
to keeping the women in my life happy sailors.  When they are happy 
sailors, I get to sail.  When they are not, I don't get to sail.  Simple as 
that.  So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini 
top. 
 
I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the 
companionway.  This is a leverage point not significantly different from 
the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki.  I know moving it forward 
will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is 
going to be lower.  I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main 
sheet.  I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler.  I may 
also have to create a new attachment point on the boom. 
 
Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project? 
Better yet... has anyone already done this? 
 
Thanks in advance for any help. 
 
Ryan 
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Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Boom height is certainly a concern since regardless of the main sheet
placement the boom will still limit the height of the bimini.

Consider a hard top option.  Since the hard material supports itself you
have more versatility than with fabric.  You may be able to work with a
designer to develop a solution with your original main sheet arrangement.
I imagine a curved slot about 4 or 5 inches wide cut through the hardtop to
facilitate the main sheet.  It might be possible to do it as a single piece
with the slot or you might have to do it with 2 pieces.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jun 27, 2016 2:09 PM, "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at
> photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible
> to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler.  I have a
> 1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller.  The traveler is currently
> located at the back of the cockpit.
>
> Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all
> fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that.  A shaded cockpit is essential
> to keeping the women in my life happy sailors.  When they are happy
> sailors, I get to sail.  When they are not, I don't get to sail.  Simple as
> that.  So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini
> top.
>
> I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the
> companionway.  This is a leverage point not significantly different from
> the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki.  I know moving it forward
> will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is
> going to be lower.  I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main
> sheet.  I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler.  I may
> also have to create a new attachment point on the boom.
>
> Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this
> project?  Better yet... has anyone already done this?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Ryan
>
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> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List
Ryan,
This is a photo of my Bimini with standard traveler placement on my 30-1. I got 
the Bimini from Genco as well. Obviously, it doesn't shade the entire cockpit 
but it's enough for the helmsman and definitely makes a difference...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B87tJUU30YcDZVpBUTQweTFqeTQ/view?usp=sharing

Cheers,
Aaron R.
Annapolis, MD
Admiral Maggie
79, 30-1
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Hey guys,

After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos 
of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my 
cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler.  I have a 1976 30mki with a 
single back stay and a tiller.  The traveler is currently located at the back 
of the cockpit.

Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all 
fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that.  A shaded cockpit is essential to 
keeping the women in my life happy sailors.  When they are happy sailors, I get 
to sail.  When they are not, I don't get to sail.  Simple as that.  So, I need 
advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top.

I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway.  
This is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location 
on a wheel-steered 30mki.  I know moving it forward will cause the load on the 
traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower.  I might need 
extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet.  I will also need strong 
backing blocks under the traveler.  I may also have to create a new attachment 
point on the boom.

Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project?  
Better yet... has anyone already done this?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Ryan


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Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Hey Aaron,

Thanks so much.  Yeah it looks like yours is in front of the wheel though, 
correct?  Mine is at the very very back of the cockpit.  Against the transom 
basically.  So the folks from Genco said that really kills any space for a 
Bimini.  Thanks for the recommendation for Genco though, they seem great.

Ryan 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Aaron Rouhi  wrote:
> 
> Ryan,
> This is a photo of my Bimini with standard traveler placement on my 30-1. I 
> got the Bimini from Genco as well. Obviously, it doesn't shade the entire 
> cockpit but it's enough for the helmsman and definitely makes a difference...
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B87tJUU30YcDZVpBUTQweTFqeTQ/view?usp=sharing
> 
> Cheers,
> Aaron R.
> Annapolis, MD
> Admiral Maggie
> 79, 30-1
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> From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:10 PM
> Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
> To: 
> Cc: Ryan Doyle 
> 
> 
> Hey guys, 
> 
> After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at 
> photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to 
> shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler.  I have a 1976 
> 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller.  The traveler is currently 
> located at the back of the cockpit.  
> 
> Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all 
> fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that.  A shaded cockpit is essential to 
> keeping the women in my life happy sailors.  When they are happy sailors, I 
> get to sail.  When they are not, I don't get to sail.  Simple as that.  So, I 
> need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top.  
> 
> I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the 
> companionway.  This is a leverage point not significantly different from the 
> traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki.  I know moving it forward will 
> cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to 
> be lower.  I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet.  I 
> will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler.  I may also have to 
> create a new attachment point on the boom.  
> 
> Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project?  
> Better yet... has anyone already done this?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Ryan
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Ryan,
It is important to note that in Aaron's photo the bimini is above the
height of the boom so he has basically maximized the forward projection
regardless of main sheet placement.

Aaron,
How much head room do you think you have under the bimini?  Would it be
uncomfortable if you were to lower it enough to fit under the boom?

Ryan,
I tackled the shade issue a little differently by extending the dodger back
a considerable distance.  It is a hard top and allowed for a projection 6"
in front and 12" behind the frame.  I also have an arch that folds out to
further extended the projection an additional 12" aft just shy of the
mainsheet.  This folding part is canvas and is easily
assembled/disassembled.  A considerable amount of engineering went into
maximizing dodger height while not impeding on the boom.  I also have cabin
top winches who's swing radius needed consideration to clear the frame.
Now my wife, and often an additional guest, have room to sit or lay in the
companionway in the shade of the dodger.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNze1nnSQ2-T1V1Yzc2cDBwU3c/view?usp=drivesdk

I also find that shade is not entirely elusive as long as one is willing to
get out of the cockpit.  Shade from the sails is almost always available
except for a few hours at the peak of the day.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jun 27, 2016 8:15 PM, "Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List" 
wrote:

Ryan,
This is a photo of my Bimini with standard traveler placement on my 30-1. I
got the Bimini from Genco as well. Obviously, it doesn't shade the entire
cockpit but it's enough for the helmsman and definitely makes a
difference...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B87tJUU30YcDZVpBUTQweTFqeTQ/view?usp=sharing

Cheers,
Aaron R.
Annapolis, MD
Admiral Maggie
79, 30-1
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From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:10 PM

Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki
To: 
Cc: Ryan Doyle 


Hey guys,

After some research and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at
photos of my boat, I've come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible
to shade my cockpit while under sail unless I move my traveler.  I have a
1976 30mki with a single back stay and a tiller.  The traveler is currently
located at the back of the cockpit.

Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are all
fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that.  A shaded cockpit is essential
to keeping the women in my life happy sailors.  When they are happy
sailors, I get to sail.  When they are not, I don't get to sail.  Simple as
that.  So, I need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini
top.

I was thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the
companionway.  This is a leverage point not significantly different from
the traveler location on a wheel-steered 30mki.  I know moving it forward
will cause the load on the traveler to be much greater and my leverage is
going to be lower.  I might need extra blocks to gain leverage on the main
sheet.  I will also need strong backing blocks under the traveler.  I may
also have to create a new attachment point on the boom.

Has anyone done the research and calculations required to do this project?
Better yet... has anyone already done this?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Ryan



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Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

2016-06-27 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List


Hi Ryan,

How many women are we talking about here? Have 
you considered a non-mechanical solution by simplifying a bit? :) 


Some like it hot...

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

At 11:09 AM 27/06/2016, you wrote:

Hey guys,Â

After some research and having the helpful folks 
at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've 
come to the conclusion that it's nearly 
impossible to shade my cockpit while under sail 
unless I move my traveler.  I have a 1976 30mki 
with a single back stay and a tiller.  The 
traveler is currently located at the back of the cockpit. Â


Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear 
sunscreen!"... These are all fantastic 
suggestions, but I'm beyond that.  A shaded 
cockpit is essential to keeping the women in my 
life happy sailors.  When they are happy 
sailors, I get to sail.  When they are not, I 
don't get to sail.  Simple as that.  So, I 
need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top. Â


I was thinking about moving the traveler to just 
in front of the companionway.  This is a 
leverage point not significantly different from 
the traveler location on a wheel-steered 
30mki.  I know moving it forward will cause the 
load on the traveler to be much greater and my 
leverage is going to be lower.  I might need 
extra blocks to gain leverage on the main 
sheet.  I will also need strong backing blocks 
under the traveler.  I may also have to create 
a new attachment point on the boom. Â


Has anyone done the research and calculations 
required to do this project?  Better yet... has anyone already done this?


Thanks in advance for any help.

Ryan
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Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki & main trim

2016-06-27 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
I find that I only move the traveler to windward in fairly light air. But then, 
since I have the shoal draft version, I don't try to point to high.  If I can 
tack through 90deg in light to average wind I'm happy.  That's good enough for 
workin on the river.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL

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Gary and all 30-1 owners-
Regarding "how often is your traveler car centered" - well, how often are your 
traveler cars centered?  When close-hauled on your 30-1s, are you in the habit 
of pulling the car to windward a bit?  My main has leech telltales as well as 
telltales on both sides farther forward, and I've had a hard time getting them 
all to fly at once upwind, despite messing with the angle of attack via 
traveler for a given leech tension via sheet & vang.  I've yet to focus on 
ideal car position for other points of sail.  When running I've been dropping 
it way leeward, but on all other points of sail I've pretty much been leaving 
it centered.  At the dock I pull it all the way to port, because my dock is to 
starboard.  I'd be interested to know how you all set your traveler on various 
points of sail.
Cheers,
Randy
From: "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" 
To: "cnc-list" 
Cc: "Gary Nylander" 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:32:39 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki

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moved my traveler on my 30-1 from in front of the wheel (all of two feet long 
and nearly worthless) to across the companionway. I know, it is a pain to climb 
around when one has to go below, but how often is your traveler car centered? I 
thought about putting it over the companionway hood, but that was too far 
forward and would put too much strain on the boom. Now I get the widest 
possible location for the traveler and reasonable leverage for the mainsheet. I 
went to a 4:1/16:1 arrangement for the mainsheet – I have a regular 4:1 
mainsheet arrangement (looks original for the boat) but I took the last 
attachment for the 4:1 and hooked up a lighter weight 4:1 assembly to it 
(actually I used a rope boom vang kit). It has worked well for nearly 20 years. 
Gary NylanderMaryland From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle 
Subject: Stus-List Moving my traveler - 30mki Hey guys,  After some research 
and having the helpful folks at Genco Marine look at photos of my boat, I've 
come to the conclusion that it's nearly impossible to shade my cockpit while 
under sail unless I move my traveler.  I have a 1976 30mki with a single back 
stay and a tiller.  The traveler is currently located at the back of the 
cockpit.   Before anyone yells "Buy a hat!" or "Wear sunscreen!"... These are 
all fantastic suggestions, but I'm beyond that.  A shaded cockpit is essential 
to keeping the women in my life happy sailors.  When they are happy sailors, I 
get to sail.  When they are not, I don't get to sail.  Simple as that.  So, I 
need advice on moving my traveler so I can install a bimini top.   I was 
thinking about moving the traveler to just in front of the companionway.  This 
is a leverage point not significantly different from the traveler location on a 
wheel-steered 30mki.  I know moving it forward will cause the load on the 
traveler to be much greater and my leverage is going to be lower.  I might need 
extra blocks to gain leverage on the main sheet.  I will also need strong 
backing blocks under the traveler.  I may also have to create a new attachment 
point on the boom.   Has anyone done the research and calculations required to 
do this project?  Better yet... has anyone already done this? Thanks in advance 
for any help. Ryan
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