Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Ryan, Your paint job looks great! I just saw this post because I am about to attempt the same thing on my 33 foot three quarter tonner and did a search on the topic in this forum. Thank you for the information. I have researched the roll and tip method and also found some pretty good instructional videos. That will be the method I use. One issue I had is my waterline. It is correct in it’s placement on the boat but the last painter did a terrible job with it – both the boot top and the line between topsides and bottom paint are wavy and need to be removed and re-done. I recently figured out how to deal with that thanks to a great video by a shipwright so I am about ready to tackle this. I just need to measure and record the position of the existing water line on the bow and stern points and with that will be able lay down a new water line. I will also be painting my deck and toe rails. Have you launched your boat yet. I know it is early but how does the paint seem to be holding up Burt 1971 33-3 quarter tonner On the hard in Walpole, MA USA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 1:53 PM To: davidjaco...@comcast.net Cc: Ryan Doyle; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote Hey Dave, Thanks! I'm ball parking, but I'd say this is approximately how long each portion took. 1.5 hrs to tape off the boat 4 hrs to sand initially with 150 grit 2 hrs to prime (New day) 2 hrs to sand primer 1.5 hrs to prime (New day) 2 hrs to sand primer again 2 hrs for first finish coat (New day) .75 hrs to sand 1.5 hrs for second finish coat (New day) .75 hrs to sand 1.5 hrs for final finish coat (New day) 3 hrs total to tape off and do a couple coats of paint on the stripes and stars. You could also do these with a stencil (but I just used bits and pieces of tape) If my math is right, that's a total of about 22.5 hrs. This was spread out over a couple of weeks. On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:27 AM, davidjaco...@comcast.net wrote: Ryan. Your results look great. How many hours would you guess you put into the paint job? Dave J Saltaire CC35 MK3 Bristol, RI ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Hey Dave, Thanks! I'm ball parking, but I'd say this is approximately how long each portion took. 1.5 hrs to tape off the boat 4 hrs to sand initially with 150 grit 2 hrs to prime (New day) 2 hrs to sand primer 1.5 hrs to prime (New day) 2 hrs to sand primer again 2 hrs for first finish coat (New day) .75 hrs to sand 1.5 hrs for second finish coat (New day) .75 hrs to sand 1.5 hrs for final finish coat (New day) 3 hrs total to tape off and do a couple coats of paint on the stripes and stars. You could also do these with a stencil (but I just used bits and pieces of tape) If my math is right, that's a total of about 22.5 hrs. This was spread out over a couple of weeks. > On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:27 AM, davidjaco...@comcast.net wrote: > > Ryan. > Your results look great. How many hours would you guess you put into the > paint job? > Dave J > Saltaire > CC35 MK3 > Bristol, RI ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Ryan. Your results look great. How many hours would you guess you put into the paint job? Dave J Saltaire CC35 MK3 Bristol, RI - Original Message - From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Sent: Thu, 26 May 2016 15:46:02 - (UTC) Subject: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote Hey all, I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines and fenders. This was the state of her hull before: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was excited to work outside. I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from defender.com for a total of $351.90 before shipping. When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I got to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding is the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and Decker orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint disappear, then I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole hull. I then wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 brushing liquid Sanded: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right off. Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job filling imperfections. Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have plenty of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, "No biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. "Oh yeah. Boat paint." Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went home and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of elbow grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth as possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer completely away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going to apply another coat. I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth finish, and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word "tip" has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out there, I think the process could be more clearly described as "roll and brush". This is the best YouTube video I've found of how to roll and tip/brush: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SGcSlNmoo The helpful
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
very nice and your hard work saved you a lot of cash; now you can buy new sails Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List wrote: > Hey all, > > I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat > painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside > and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this > process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but > hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. > > When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. > The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful > color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush > marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines > and fenders. > > This was the state of her hull before: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA > > I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - > crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat > grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was > excited to work outside. > > I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... > but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from > defender.com for a total of $351.90 before shipping. > > When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and > the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. > > Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I got > to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding is > the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. > > I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and Decker > orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint disappear, then > I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole hull. I then > wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 brushing liquid > > Sanded: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM > > I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right > off. > > Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of > Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids > were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint > and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 > degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and > mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. > > Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old > tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one > coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job > filling imperfections. > > Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have plenty > of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, "No > biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. > > As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. > "Oh yeah. Boat paint." > > Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went home > and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of elbow > grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. > > I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. > > The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this > post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth > as possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer > completely away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going > to apply another coat. > > I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and > rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. > > The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth finish, > and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. > > Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been > confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more > complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word "tip" > has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out there, I > think the process could be more clearly described as "roll and brush". > > This is the best YouTube video I've found of how to roll and tip/brush: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SGcSlNmoo > > The helpful guys at my local West Marine told me to paint a full section of > t
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Thanks for sharing, Ryan. Your boat looks incredible. If you get the urge to paint another one, just let me know... Sam 35-3 SF On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Ryan > > > > The boat looks really nice. Congratulations on a job well done > > > > Mike > > Persistence > > HAlifax > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan > Doyle via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:46 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Ryan Doyle > *Subject:* Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux > Brightside/Interlux Prekote > > > > Hey all, > > > > I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time > boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux > Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes > during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my > expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some > grief. > > > > When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. > The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful > color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush > marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines > and fenders. > > > > This was the state of her hull before: > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA > > > > I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - > crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat > grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was > excited to work outside. > > > > I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... > but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from > defender.com for a total of $351.90 before shipping. > > > > When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and > the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. > > > > Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I > got to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding > is the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. > > > > I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and > Decker orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint > disappear, then I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole > hull. I then wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 > brushing liquid > > > > Sanded: > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM > > > > I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right > off. > > > > Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of > Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids > were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint > and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 > degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and > mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. > > > > Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old > tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one > coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job > filling imperfections. > > > > Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have > plenty of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, > "No biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. > > > > As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. > "Oh yeah. Boat paint." > > > > Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went > home and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of > elbow grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. > > > > I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. > > > > The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this > post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth > as possible. In tough, uneven places, I som
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Ryan The boat looks really nice. Congratulations on a job well done Mike Persistence HAlifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:46 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote Hey all, I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines and fenders. This was the state of her hull before: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was excited to work outside. I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from defender.com<http://defender.com> for a total of $351.90 before shipping. When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I got to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding is the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and Decker orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint disappear, then I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole hull. I then wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 brushing liquid Sanded: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right off. Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job filling imperfections. Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have plenty of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, "No biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. "Oh yeah. Boat paint." Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went home and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of elbow grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth as possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer completely away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going to apply another coat. I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth finish, and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word "tip" has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out there, I think the process could be more clearly described as "roll and brush". This is the best YouTube video I've found of how to roll and tip/brush:
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Great job and nice write up on your experiences. Thanks for sharing John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:30 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jake Brodersen Subject: Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote Ryan, An outstanding job. Excellent gloss. Thanks for sharing your experience. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:46 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote Hey all, I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines and fenders. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Hi Ryan, Looks great and might motivate me to do the same next season. Can you comment though about the swim ladder. Was it difficult to work around and should I think about removing it before painting? Thanks, Tom Oryniak 33-1 Carry On On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hey all, > > I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time > boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux > Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes > during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my > expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some > grief. > > When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. > The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful > color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush > marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines > and fenders. > > This was the state of her hull before: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA > > I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - > crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat > grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was > excited to work outside. > > I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... > but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from > defender.com for a total of $351.90 before shipping. > > When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and > the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. > > Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I > got to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding > is the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. > > I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and > Decker orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint > disappear, then I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole > hull. I then wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 > brushing liquid > > Sanded: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM > > I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right > off. > > Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of > Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids > were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint > and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 > degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and > mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. > > Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old > tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one > coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job > filling imperfections. > > Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have > plenty of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, > "No biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. > > As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. > "Oh yeah. Boat paint." > > Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went > home and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of > elbow grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. > > I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. > > The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this > post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth > as possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer > completely away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going > to apply another coat. > > I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and > rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. > > The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth > finish, and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. > > Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been > confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more > complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word > "tip" has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out > there, I think the process could be more clearly described as "roll and > brush". > > This is the best YouTube video I've found of how to roll and tip/brush: > https://www.youtube.com/watch
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Ryan, An outstanding job. Excellent gloss. Thanks for sharing your experience. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:46 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote Hey all, I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines and fenders. This was the state of her hull before: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was excited to work outside. I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from defender.com <http://defender.com> for a total of $351.90 before shipping. When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I got to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding is the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and Decker orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint disappear, then I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole hull. I then wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 brushing liquid Sanded: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right off. Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job filling imperfections. Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have plenty of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, "No biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. "Oh yeah. Boat paint." Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went home and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of elbow grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth as possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer completely away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going to apply another coat. I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth finish, and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word "tip" has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out there,
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Spectacular!Bill Walker cnc 36. Pentwater, Mi Sent from my LG G Pad F™ 8.0, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet -- Original message--From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Date: Thu, May 26, 2016 11:46 AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Ryan Doyle;Subject:Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote Hey all, I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines and fenders. This was the state of her hull before:https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was excited to work outside. I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from defender.com for a total of $351.90 before shipping. When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I got to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding is the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and Decker orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint disappear, then I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole hull. I then wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 brushing liquid Sanded:https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right off. Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job filling imperfections. Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have plenty of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, "No biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. "Oh yeah. Boat paint." Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went home and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of elbow grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth as possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer completely away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going to apply another coat. I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth finish, and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word "tip" has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out there, I think the process could be more clearly described as "roll and brush". This is the best YouTube video I've found of how to roll and tip/brush:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SGcSlNmoo The helpful guys at my local West Marine told me to paint a full section of the boat at one time - IE the whole transom, or all t
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Beautiful!!Thank you for very detailed share.Bernie Original message From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Date: 05/26/2016 11:46 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote Hey all, I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines and fenders. This was the state of her hull before:https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was excited to work outside. I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from defender.com for a total of $351.90 before shipping. When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I got to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding is the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and Decker orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint disappear, then I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole hull. I then wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 brushing liquid Sanded:https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right off. Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job filling imperfections. Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have plenty of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, "No biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. "Oh yeah. Boat paint." Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went home and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of elbow grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth as possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer completely away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going to apply another coat. I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth finish, and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word "tip" has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out there, I think the process could be more clearly described as "roll and brush". This is the best YouTube video I've found of how to roll and tip/brush:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SGcSlNmoo The helpful guys at my local West Marine told me to
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Wow! Sounds like a lot of work, Ryan! The only thing I'd like to add here is that if you paint the decks one time, they will need to be painted again in the not-too-distant future...and then, again. If you can avoid painting them the fist time, do so. It is never ending maintenance unless you love painting more than sailing. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230) Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com Email: dainyr...@icloud.com Annapolis, MD (presently in Baltimore) > On May 26, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hey all, > > I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat > painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside > and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this > process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but > hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. > > When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. > The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful > color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush marks, > and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines and > fenders. > > This was the state of her hull before: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA > > I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - > crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat > grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was > excited to work outside. > > I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... but > more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from defender.com for > a total of $351.90 before shipping. > > When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and > the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. > > Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I got > to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding is > the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. > > I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and Decker > orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint disappear, then > I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole hull. I then > wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 brushing liquid > > Sanded: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM > > I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right > off. > > Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of > Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids were > all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint and I > was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 degrees was > too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and mixed up the > paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. > > Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old tee > shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one coat of > primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job filling > imperfections. > > Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have plenty > of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, "No > biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. > > As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. "Oh > yeah. Boat paint." > > Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went home > and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of elbow > grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. > > I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. > > The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this > post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth as > possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer completely > away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going to apply > another coat. > > I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and > rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. > > The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth finish, > and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. > > Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been > confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more > complicated than it is. The
Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux Brightside/Interlux Prekote
Hey all, I've got the day off, so I wanted to post my experience as a first-time boat painter repainting the topsides of my 1976 C&C 30 with Interlux Brightside and Interlux Prekote. I made some small, but dumb mistakes during this process. I'm sure the experts will have a little laugh at my expense, but hopefully this post will save other first-time painters some grief. When I bought my boat back in October, I knew I was going to repaint her. The hull was robin's egg blue... which many people think is a beautiful color, but I don't. The paint job was sloppy with lots of thick brush marks, and it had been worn off in a few places from rubbing of her lines and fenders. This was the state of her hull before: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGMGt4dHNRS0tZSXM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRGJaVTFUa0FKcTA I spent my mornings before work this winter rewiring the entire boat - crawling around in cockpit lockers and getting covered in 40-year-old boat grime. So when the weather broke and it was finally time to paint, I was excited to work outside. I bought 8 cans of Steel Gray Interlux Brightside (A.K.A. Way Too Much... but more on that later) and 2 cans of Gray Interlux PreKote from defender.com for a total of $351.90 before shipping. When the paint arrived, I carefully taped off the toe rail at the top, and the line where the bottom paint starts with Scotch Blue Painter's tape. Looking like a CDC agent in my 3m respirator, gloves, and cover-alls, I got to work sanding. If you read online, you'll quickly learn that sanding is the key to a nice finish. Thankfully, I took this advice seriously. I sanded the old paint off using 150 grit pads on my cheap Black and Decker orbit sander. I sanded until I could just see the old paint disappear, then I moved on to a new section until I had gone over the whole hull. I then wiped down the whole hull with a rag soaked in Interlux 333 brushing liquid Sanded: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGNGVFWUp4YkpSemM https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGS2Q4bmJhU2JXaWM I hit those old decals with a blast from my heat gun and they peeled right off. Now it was time to prime. I was nervous when I opened the first can of Interlux PreKote because the stuff was completely separated - the solids were all on the bottom of the can. I thought maybe I had bought bad paint and I was also concerned that the weather - then hovering around 55-60 degrees was too cold to apply it. I took my drill with a mixing bit and mixed up the paint as best I could. This got it to a nice consistency. Donning zero protective clothing - just an old pair of gym shorts, an old tee shirt and brand new sandals - I took a foam roller and rolled on one coat of primer. This primer was very thick and I thought it did a nice job filling imperfections. Here's where I made dumb mistake #1: I got covered in paint. I have plenty of experience with interior house paints, and at the time I thought, "No biggie. I'll just rise it off with a hose." Hah. As I wet my hands, the water just beaded up and my hands stuck together. "Oh yeah. Boat paint." Not wanting to use nasty paint thinners to remove it from skin, I went home and used high percentage rubbing alcohol and a towel. With a lot of elbow grease, this took the paint and a few layers of skin off quite nicely. I then waited a day for the primer on the boat to dry. The next morning, I sanded it. Sanding will be a recurring theme in this post. I used 150 grit discs again and worked to get the surface as smooth as possible. In tough, uneven places, I sometimes sanded the primer completely away, trying to get the surface smooth knowing that I was going to apply another coat. I then wiped the whole hull with a damp rag to remove the sanding dust and rolled on another coat of Interlux PreKote - this time with coveralls on. The next day I sanded again with 220 grit. Got it to a nice, smooth finish, and wiped the hull down again with a damp rag. Now before I get into the finish coating, I want to say I have always been confused by the phrase "roll and tip". This makes it sound way more complicated than it is. The definition, as far as I know, of the word "tip" has nothing to do with what you actually do. For the amateurs out there, I think the process could be more clearly described as "roll and brush". This is the best YouTube video I've found of how to roll and tip/brush: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SGcSlNmoo The helpful guys at my local West Marine told me to paint a full section of the boat at one time - IE the whole transom, or all the starboard topsides, so it's harder to see the lines between applications. I found this to be good advice. I started at the port stern and rolled on the first finish coat of Brightside with a foam roller in a 2' section. I then took my much-too-expensive Purdy brush and lightly brushed from right to left - starting at the bottom in the air off th
