Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-02 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
It's a Suzuki 9.9.  The previous owner put it on.  It's already a heavy engine 
and its got power tilt and electric start.

With regards to the dock behind the boat, there's also a metal pipe running the 
length of the dock the engine will have to go over to get to the dock.  I could 
wrap a towel or something to protect the engine, but it seems to me that it 
might just be easier to walk the engine across  the transom to the finger pier 
which is lower and without any obstructions.

The engine is heavy and hasn't run well since I bought the boat in December.  
It's still under warranty so I'm going to take it to the shop.  It's a 2013.  
I'm also considering just selling the thing and replacing it with a Yamaha or 
Tohatsu.

Thanks a lot for the advice.

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL

On May 1, 2016, at 11:32 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
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I tend to agree with Dennis.

The 9.9 Tohatsu on Bell weighs around 80 pounds. The dock is about 18" to 2' 
above the transom. I put a safety line on the motor (in case I dropped it), sat 
down on the edge of the dock, and just pulled the motor up off the mount and 
slid it onto the dock. Not pretty but very doable.

123 pounds sounds pretty heavy, how large is the engine?

Rick Brass
Imzadi  C 38 mk 2
la Belle Aurore C 25 mk1
Washington, NC



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Subject: Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

Just put a tag line on the motor.  Have a buddy stand on the main dock and man 
the tag line.  Use the halyard to lift it up to the level of the main dock.  
Buddy pulls it over the main dock and you lower it.
If there's a cleat on the main dock on the far side, wrap the tag line around 
it for better control.

Dennis C.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
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Hi Dennis,

I do back the boat and dock it stern first. However, the dock behind the boat 
is a good 3 feet higher than the transom and I think it'd be difficult to lift 
it that high.  There is a finger pier to starboard that is the same level as 
the boat.  I was thinking of raising the motor with the halyard and move it 
across the back of the boat and lay it down on the pier.  Or I could bring it 
around the port backstay, through the cockpit, and up onto the pier.  I'd much 
rather use just the halyard since it won't require using a boom extension.


Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL

On May 1, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
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The Admiral and I use a halyard to lift and/return Touche's early 80's vintage 
Evinrude 7.5 from the starboard cockpit locker all the time.  It's pretty easy 
to maneuver it and put it on the transom of the dinghy which is usually tied 
midships.

Should work for the transom.  Once the load is on the halyard, you really don't 
need a lot of effort to swing it around.  The angle from the masthead to the 
transom isn't that great.
Can you put the boat in the slip stern in?  If so, just take the load on the 
halyard and have a friend standing on the dock pull it aft and then put it on 
the pier.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
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Hello everyone,

I'm getting ready to remove my outboard engine and take it to be worked on.  
I'd like to leave it in the slip to avoid pullout costs as well ask to avoid 
the risk of ruining my bottom paint should it need to be out more than 72 
hours.  Looking online I came up with a system where I'm planning on lashing a 
4x4 to the boom.

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Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
I tend to agree with Dennis.

 

The 9.9 Tohatsu on Bell weighs around 80 pounds. The dock is about 18” to 2’ 
above the transom. I put a safety line on the motor (in case I dropped it), sat 
down on the edge of the dock, and just pulled the motor up off the mount and 
slid it onto the dock. Not pretty but very doable.

 

123 pounds sounds pretty heavy, how large is the engine?

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

 

Just put a tag line on the motor.  Have a buddy stand on the main dock and man 
the tag line.  Use the halyard to lift it up to the level of the main dock.  
Buddy pulls it over the main dock and you lower it.

If there's a cleat on the main dock on the far side, wrap the tag line around 
it for better control.

 

Dennis C.

 

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
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Hi Dennis,

 

I do back the boat and dock it stern first. However, the dock behind the boat 
is a good 3 feet higher than the transom and I think it'd be difficult to lift 
it that high.  There is a finger pier to starboard that is the same level as 
the boat.  I was thinking of raising the motor with the halyard and move it 
across the back of the boat and lay it down on the pier.  Or I could bring it 
around the port backstay, through the cockpit, and up onto the pier.  I'd much 
rather use just the halyard since it won't require using a boom extension.

 


Mark McMenamy 

C 25 "Icicle"

Fort Pierce FL


On May 1, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

The Admiral and I use a halyard to lift and/return Touche's early 80's vintage 
Evinrude 7.5 from the starboard cockpit locker all the time.  It's pretty easy 
to maneuver it and put it on the transom of the dinghy which is usually tied 
midships.

Should work for the transom.  Once the load is on the halyard, you really don't 
need a lot of effort to swing it around.  The angle from the masthead to the 
transom isn't that great.

Can you put the boat in the slip stern in?  If so, just take the load on the 
halyard and have a friend standing on the dock pull it aft and then put it on 
the pier.

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm getting ready to remove my outboard engine and take it to be worked on.  
I'd like to leave it in the slip to avoid pullout costs as well ask to avoid 
the risk of ruining my bottom paint should it need to be out more than 72 
hours.  Looking online I came up with a system where I'm planning on lashing a 
4x4 to the boom.  

 

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Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Coolthanks Dennis...sounds like a plan.

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL

On May 1, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Just put a tag line on the motor.  Have a buddy stand on the main dock and man 
the tag line.  Use the halyard to lift it up to the level of the main dock.  
Buddy pulls it over the main dock and you lower it.

If there's a cleat on the main dock on the far side, wrap the tag line around 
it for better control.

Dennis C.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Hi Dennis,

I do back the boat and dock it stern first. However, the dock behind the boat 
is a good 3 feet higher than the transom and I think it'd be difficult to lift 
it that high.  There is a finger pier to starboard that is the same level as 
the boat.  I was thinking of raising the motor with the halyard and move it 
across the back of the boat and lay it down on the pier.  Or I could bring it 
around the port backstay, through the cockpit, and up onto the pier.  I'd much 
rather use just the halyard since it won't require using a boom extension.


Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL

On May 1, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:

The Admiral and I use a halyard to lift and/return Touche's early 80's vintage 
Evinrude 7.5 from the starboard cockpit locker all the time.  It's pretty easy 
to maneuver it and put it on the transom of the dinghy which is usually tied 
midships.

Should work for the transom.  Once the load is on the halyard, you really don't 
need a lot of effort to swing it around.  The angle from the masthead to the 
transom isn't that great.

Can you put the boat in the slip stern in?  If so, just take the load on the 
halyard and have a friend standing on the dock pull it aft and then put it on 
the pier.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I'm getting ready to remove my outboard engine and take it to be worked on.  
I'd like to leave it in the slip to avoid pullout costs as well ask to avoid 
the risk of ruining my bottom paint should it need to be out more than 72 
hours.  Looking online I came up with a system where I'm planning on lashing a 
4x4 to the boom.

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Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Just put a tag line on the motor.  Have a buddy stand on the main dock and
man the tag line.  Use the halyard to lift it up to the level of the main
dock.  Buddy pulls it over the main dock and you lower it.

If there's a cleat on the main dock on the far side, wrap the tag line
around it for better control.

Dennis C.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
>
> I do back the boat and dock it stern first. However, the dock behind the
> boat is a good 3 feet higher than the transom and I think it'd be difficult
> to lift it that high.  There is a finger pier to starboard that is the same
> level as the boat.  I was thinking of raising the motor with the halyard
> and move it across the back of the boat and lay it down on the pier.  Or I
> could bring it around the port backstay, through the cockpit, and up onto
> the pier.  I'd much rather use just the halyard since it won't require
> using a boom extension.
>
>
> Mark McMenamy
> C 25 "Icicle"
> Fort Pierce FL
>
> On May 1, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> The Admiral and I use a halyard to lift and/return Touche's early 80's
> vintage Evinrude 7.5 from the starboard cockpit locker all the time.  It's
> pretty easy to maneuver it and put it on the transom of the dinghy which is
> usually tied midships.
>
> Should work for the transom.  Once the load is on the halyard, you really
> don't need a lot of effort to swing it around.  The angle from the masthead
> to the transom isn't that great.
>
> Can you put the boat in the slip stern in?  If so, just take the load on
> the halyard and have a friend standing on the dock pull it aft and then put
> it on the pier.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm getting ready to remove my outboard engine and take it to be worked
>> on.  I'd like to leave it in the slip to avoid pullout costs as well ask to
>> avoid the risk of ruining my bottom paint should it need to be out more
>> than 72 hours.  Looking online I came up with a system where I'm planning
>> on lashing a 4x4 to the boom.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Hi Dennis,

I do back the boat and dock it stern first. However, the dock behind the boat 
is a good 3 feet higher than the transom and I think it'd be difficult to lift 
it that high.  There is a finger pier to starboard that is the same level as 
the boat.  I was thinking of raising the motor with the halyard and move it 
across the back of the boat and lay it down on the pier.  Or I could bring it 
around the port backstay, through the cockpit, and up onto the pier.  I'd much 
rather use just the halyard since it won't require using a boom extension.


Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL

On May 1, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:

The Admiral and I use a halyard to lift and/return Touche's early 80's vintage 
Evinrude 7.5 from the starboard cockpit locker all the time.  It's pretty easy 
to maneuver it and put it on the transom of the dinghy which is usually tied 
midships.

Should work for the transom.  Once the load is on the halyard, you really don't 
need a lot of effort to swing it around.  The angle from the masthead to the 
transom isn't that great.

Can you put the boat in the slip stern in?  If so, just take the load on the 
halyard and have a friend standing on the dock pull it aft and then put it on 
the pier.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I'm getting ready to remove my outboard engine and take it to be worked on.  
I'd like to leave it in the slip to avoid pullout costs as well ask to avoid 
the risk of ruining my bottom paint should it need to be out more than 72 
hours.  Looking online I came up with a system where I'm planning on lashing a 
4x4 to the boom.

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Re: Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
The Admiral and I use a halyard to lift and/return Touche's early 80's
vintage Evinrude 7.5 from the starboard cockpit locker all the time.  It's
pretty easy to maneuver it and put it on the transom of the dinghy which is
usually tied midships.

Should work for the transom.  Once the load is on the halyard, you really
don't need a lot of effort to swing it around.  The angle from the masthead
to the transom isn't that great.

Can you put the boat in the slip stern in?  If so, just take the load on
the halyard and have a friend standing on the dock pull it aft and then put
it on the pier.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm getting ready to remove my outboard engine and take it to be worked
> on.  I'd like to leave it in the slip to avoid pullout costs as well ask to
> avoid the risk of ruining my bottom paint should it need to be out more
> than 72 hours.  Looking online I came up with a system where I'm planning
> on lashing a 4x4 to the boom.
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Stus-List Outboard engine removal

2016-05-01 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Hello everyone,

I'm getting ready to remove my outboard engine and take it to be worked on.  
I'd like to leave it in the slip to avoid pullout costs as well ask to avoid 
the risk of ruining my bottom paint should it need to be out more than 72 
hours.  Looking online I came up with a system where I'm planning on lashing a 
4x4 to the boom.  Out at the motor end I'm going to screw an eye bolt on top 
and attach the main halyard.  I'll also have the topping lift as a backup, but 
it will be attached on it's normal point on the boom.  The load will be borne 
by the halyard.  Underneath the 4x4 I will have a power puller lever type winch 
and run the line through an eye bolt and down to a harness on the engine.  My 
plan is to winch up the engine and swing to boom over to the dock and then 
lower.  Because of the split backstay I'll have to angle the boat in the slip.  
The motor is 123 lbs and the dock is 2.5-3 feet above the boat, so I'm worried 
about just trying to muscle it onto the dock.  Anybody ever done 
 this?  Does this sound crazy?

Initially I was thinking of just hooking the halyard directly to the engine and 
winching it up while a friend guided it out, but I was worried about the 
angular force applied against the motor in its bracket.

Thanks for your advice.

Mark McMenamy
C 25 "Icicle"
Fort Pierce FL
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