Re: Stus-List Raymarine Evo Wheel Pilot

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Barry — it sounds like the wiring to either the drive motor or the ACU are 
undersized.  Pretty inexpensive to fix.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 4, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a C&C 110 with the Evo 100 wheel pilot. A friend of mine has a 35
> mark 3 and the same wheel pilot. I race on that boat and am on it
> frequently. 
> 
> For my use (and his too) the Ray wheel pilot is adequate. I use the pilot
> for short handed / single handed sailing in fair weather conditions. I don't
> sail (on purpose) in bad weather and I don't expect the AP to do well in 25+
> winds downwind or in confused seas. The pilot does a great job under power.
> It works great under sail in flat water and does OK upwind in moderate
> waves. As the winds pick up it helps to have the boat a little undertrimmed.
> 
> 
> I think I have a wiring problem on my boat as the voltage to the power unit
> is always on the low side, even when the engine is running. As a result, if
> the AP is really pressed hard I sometimes get a 'drive stopped' error and I
> need to re-engage the AP. I do not see this problem on my friend's boat. 
> 
> The AP on my friend's 35 seems to work better than on my 110. Perhaps
> because my boat is a little bigger? I don't really know. 
> 
> For me, the wheel pilot works good enough. I would rather have a below decks
> pilot but the difficult and expensive installation made that out of my
> budget. I paid $1100 for the pilot and under $300 for installation. 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> Barry
> 
> Barry Lenoble
> leno...@optonline.net 
> Deep Blue C, C&C 110
> Mt. Sinai, NY

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Stus-List Raymarine Evo Wheel Pilot

[Barry Lenoble via CnC-List]

Hello,

I have a C&C 110 with the Evo 100 wheel pilot. A friend of mine has a 35
mark 3 and the same wheel pilot. I race on that boat and am on it
frequently. 

For my use (and his too) the Ray wheel pilot is adequate. I use the pilot
for short handed / single handed sailing in fair weather conditions. I don't
sail (on purpose) in bad weather and I don't expect the AP to do well in 25+
winds downwind or in confused seas. The pilot does a great job under power.
It works great under sail in flat water and does OK upwind in moderate
waves. As the winds pick up it helps to have the boat a little undertrimmed.


I think I have a wiring problem on my boat as the voltage to the power unit
is always on the low side, even when the engine is running. As a result, if
the AP is really pressed hard I sometimes get a 'drive stopped' error and I
need to re-engage the AP. I do not see this problem on my friend's boat. 

The AP on my friend's 35 seems to work better than on my 110. Perhaps
because my boat is a little bigger? I don't really know. 

For me, the wheel pilot works good enough. I would rather have a below decks
pilot but the difficult and expensive installation made that out of my
budget. I paid $1100 for the pilot and under $300 for installation. 

Hope this helps.
Barry

Barry Lenoble
leno...@optonline.net
Deep Blue C, C&C 110
Mt. Sinai, NY




> On Jun 2, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Allan Hester via CnC-List
 wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Fred and listers,
> 
> 
> As you know, I am considering a new autopilot. Autopilots are something I
know nothing about.
> 
> The Raymarine ST4000 currently installed works but it is very old and is
not capable of steering the boat straight in anything other than a
relatively flat sea state.
> 
> However, it does the job, after a fashion. Its also quite noisy. Everytime
it adjusts course it squeaks. It may only need some lubrication. I will
lubricate the wheel over the next few days. Are the new units noisy?
> 
> I have been in the port side lazarette many times. As you can appreciate
it is a cramped space. I installed a new Espar heater last winter and
crawling in that hole was very uncomfortable even with the port scupper hose
removed. 
> 
> I have no plans to sail offshore in a C&C 35. So I wonder if the added 
> expense and difficulty of install for an under deck autopilot is really
necessary? Perhaps the new wheel pilots will track better than my old ST4000
and offer strong, reliable, quiet performance?
> 
> I have taken a cursory look the quadrant and rudder post in the past. 
> It doesn't appear to me there is any room to attach anything to the 
> post. I think my only option in that regard is doing what Paul did on 
> his LF 38 and attach
> 
> the drive to the quadrant.
> 
> This is a project that I will tackle after the current sailing season. At
this point I am looking for advice from those who have experience in this
area.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any advice you and listers can offer.
> 
> AL H.
> C&C 35 mk3


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