Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UV Strip
Given the light weight of ‘Sticky back’( presumed to be plastic type film that serves as a sail cover when the head sail is furled), I doubt that it is the problem with your leech. (Before I went with a furling sock, I had new carbon sails that had something similar on them for UV protection— very thin clear plastic stuck to the sail). I suspect that your frizbee type leech curl is a result of a tired sail that has lost its shape or it was cut improperly. I once had a Dacron 155% reinforced with technora fibers that had a similar leech (which ‘bowed’ to weather!) that could only be removed be recutting it to about 140%. Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Thursday, March 2, 2023, 6:43 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote: My current Dacron Jib has Insignia sticky-back on the leech, which I am not happy with. I wonder if anyone else following this has Sticky-Back as a UV, and if they have noticed they have a frisbee leech? I would have expected the leech to be needing some leech line adjustment by now, but I have it all the way off and still can't get the cup out of the leech. I am afraid if I take it off I will be stuck with sticky crap that I cannot remove. Bill ColemanEntrada, Erie PA On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 10:57 AM Jeff Nelson via CnC-List wrote: Also has the benefit that it doesn't add weight to the leach of the sail, which can be important in light wind. As well, there is less of a chance your furled sail will unwind in a wind...because it is encased in the sockso the sock has to fail as well. The drawback of course is you have to put the sock on and off...but having used both, my boat with leach UV protection and J-105 with sock. The extra 5 minutes doesn't kill me. If you sailed alone a lot, might be more of a nuisance but I try to avoid that as I am more of a social person so I prefer to find anybody to go sailing with. My future sails will be sock based. Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 - 549 Armdale Y.C. On 2023-03-02 11:44, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: Bacon’s told me their price for the material had recently doubled, so socks probably cost more too. On the other hand a sock works for ALL sails, not just one, and you can get it repaired without dragging the whole sail into the loft. Joe Coquina From: Richard Servance via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 9:58 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Richard Servance Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: UV Strip I just had North replace the UV cover on my 135%. It was a boat buck ($1k). Hadn't heard of the sock method; so not sure if it's still an option from them. Sail safe, Richard Servance S/V Blue Heaven (C&C 34+) 757-995-3416 @svblueheaven Seattle, WA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UV Strip
My current Dacron Jib has Insignia sticky-back on the leech, which I am not happy with. I wonder if anyone else following this has Sticky-Back as a UV, and if they have noticed they have a frisbee leech? I would have expected the leech to be needing some leech line adjustment by now, but I have it all the way off and still can't get the cup out of the leech. I am afraid if I take it off I will be stuck with sticky crap that I cannot remove. Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie PA On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 10:57 AM Jeff Nelson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Also has the benefit that it doesn't add weight to the leach of the sail, > which can be important in light wind. As well, > there is less of a chance your furled sail will unwind in a wind...because > it is encased in the sockso the sock has to fail as well. > > The drawback of course is you have to put the sock on and off...but having > used both, my boat with leach UV protection > and J-105 with sock. The extra 5 minutes doesn't kill me. If you sailed > alone a lot, might be more of a nuisance but I try to > avoid that as I am more of a social person so I prefer to find anybody to > go sailing with. > > My future sails will be sock based. > > Cheers, > Jeff Nelson > Muir Caileag > C&C 30 - 549 > Armdale Y.C. > > On 2023-03-02 11:44, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: > > Bacon’s told me their price for the material had recently doubled, so > socks probably cost more too. > > On the other hand a sock works for ALL sails, not just one, and you can > get it repaired without dragging the whole sail into the loft. > > > > Joe > > Coquina > > > > *From:* Richard Servance via CnC-List > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2023 9:58 AM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* Richard Servance > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: UV Strip > > > > I just had North replace the UV cover on my 135%. It was a boat buck > ($1k). Hadn't heard of the sock method; so not sure if it's still an option > from them. > > > Sail safe, > > > Richard Servance > > S/V Blue Heaven (C&C 34+) > > 757-995-3416 > @svblueheaven > Seattle, WA > > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UV Strip
my sock has a cinch line on the outside. I also wrap a spinnaker halyard around it when I'm not there to keep it from beating up the sail. Bob > On 03/02/2023 11:10 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > FWIW, my local sailmaker told me that socks beat up the sails when the > wind picks up. > > > From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:45 AM > To: Stus-List > Cc: Della Barba, Joe > Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UV Strip > > > Bacon’s told me their price for the material had recently doubled, so > socks probably cost more too. > > On the other hand a sock works for ALL sails, not just one, and you can > get it repaired without dragging the whole sail into the loft. > > > Joe > > Coquina > > > From: Richard Servance via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 9:58 AM > To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Cc: Richard Servance mailto:hicsai...@gmail.com > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: UV Strip > > > I just had North replace the UV cover on my 135%. It was a boat buck > ($1k). Hadn't heard of the sock method; so not sure if it's still an option > from them. > > > Sail safe, > > > Richard Servance > > S/V Blue Heaven (C&C 34+) > > 757-995-3416 > @svblueheaven > Seattle, WA > > > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 6:26 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > > > I had the UV strip replaced on my 135% last year by Doyle Sails > > here...all in cost was $575 CDN .Old UV strip 12 to 13 years old and > > cracking/splitting. > > > > Rob Abbott > > AZURA > > C&C 32 - #277 > > Halifax, N.S. > > > > > > > > > > On 2023-03-02 9:09 a.m., Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My post about this from last June: > > > > > > “The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it > > > to Bacons to get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I > > > figured wrong, the estimate came back at $1350! Yikes! > > > > > > Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like > > > a pretty good chunk of an entire sail!” > > > > > > > > > That included about $375 worth of repairs, but still at about > > > $1000 for the UV strip I think it was double the last time I had that job > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe Della Barba > > > > > > Coquina C&C 35 MK I > > > > > > Kent Island MD USA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album > > site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > Thanks for your help. > > Stu > > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album > > site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UV Strip
FWIW, my local sailmaker told me that socks beat up the sails when the wind picks up. From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:45 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UV Strip Bacon’s told me their price for the material had recently doubled, so socks probably cost more too. On the other hand a sock works for ALL sails, not just one, and you can get it repaired without dragging the whole sail into the loft. Joe Coquina From: Richard Servance via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 9:58 AM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Richard Servance mailto:hicsai...@gmail.com> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: UV Strip I just had North replace the UV cover on my 135%. It was a boat buck ($1k). Hadn't heard of the sock method; so not sure if it's still an option from them. Sail safe, Richard Servance S/V Blue Heaven (C&C 34+) 757-995-3416 @svblueheaven Seattle, WA On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 6:26 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: I had the UV strip replaced on my 135% last year by Doyle Sails here...all in cost was $575 CDN .Old UV strip 12 to 13 years old and cracking/splitting. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - #277 Halifax, N.S. On 2023-03-02 9:09 a.m., Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: My post about this from last June: “The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the estimate came back at $1350! Yikes! Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good chunk of an entire sail!” That included about $375 worth of repairs, but still at about $1000 for the UV strip I think it was double the last time I had that job done. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UV Strip
Also has the benefit that it doesn't add weight to the leach of the sail, which can be important in light wind. As well, there is less of a chance your furled sail will unwind in a wind...because it is encased in the sockso the sock has to fail as well. The drawback of course is you have to put the sock on and off...but having used both, my boat with leach UV protection and J-105 with sock. The extra 5 minutes doesn't kill me. If you sailed alone a lot, might be more of a nuisance but I try to avoid that as I am more of a social person so I prefer to find anybody to go sailing with. My future sails will be sock based. Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 - 549 Armdale Y.C. On 2023-03-02 11:44, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: Bacon’s told me their price for the material had recently doubled, so socks probably cost more too. On the other hand a sock works for ALL sails, not just one, and you can get it repaired without dragging the whole sail into the loft. Joe Coquina *From:* Richard Servance via CnC-List *Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2023 9:58 AM *To:* Stus-List *Cc:* Richard Servance *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: UV Strip I just had North replace the UV cover on my 135%. It was a boat buck ($1k). Hadn't heard of the sock method; so not sure if it's still an option from them. Sail safe, Richard Servance S/V Blue Heaven (C&C 34+) 757-995-3416 @svblueheaven Seattle, WA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UV Strip
Bacon’s told me their price for the material had recently doubled, so socks probably cost more too. On the other hand a sock works for ALL sails, not just one, and you can get it repaired without dragging the whole sail into the loft. Joe Coquina From: Richard Servance via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 9:58 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Richard Servance Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: UV Strip I just had North replace the UV cover on my 135%. It was a boat buck ($1k). Hadn't heard of the sock method; so not sure if it's still an option from them. Sail safe, Richard Servance S/V Blue Heaven (C&C 34+) 757-995-3416 @svblueheaven Seattle, WA On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 6:26 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I had the UV strip replaced on my 135% last year by Doyle Sails here...all in cost was $575 CDN .Old UV strip 12 to 13 years old and cracking/splitting. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - #277 Halifax, N.S. On 2023-03-02 9:09 a.m., Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: My post about this from last June: “The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the estimate came back at $1350! Yikes! Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good chunk of an entire sail!” That included about $375 worth of repairs, but still at about $1000 for the UV strip I think it was double the last time I had that job done. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
