Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
Don't overthink things. Just figure you will need a rope purchase to use the emergency tiller and plan for one. Then perform proper maintenance on the steering system regularly so you never need it. My two cents. Chuck Scheaffer 1989 Resolute 1989 C&C 34R > On 04/25/2021 6:04 PM Hans Reinhardt via CnC-List > wrote: > > > John, > Many thanks for going to the trouble of posting photos. My ‘82 37 appears > to have the identical setup. And so equally less than ideal. Is one of the > projects that I need to push beyond thought exercise. So far my mind has been > stuck in Rube-Goldbergian quicksand. 🙄 One of the main issues is the height > of the pedestal and the requisite bracing for a tall rudder post extension. > Another is tiller length. A ”bicycle handlebar” type yoke that reaches around > both sides of the pedestal above the seating or coaming height could work > 🤪 ... still rather R-G. > To date I’m unimpressed with the reach of my imagination. But I really > should move on something 😊 > Hans R > S/V Ete’ > Seattle, WA > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The photos came through clear; thank you! > > > > Richard > > s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37; Ohio River, Mile 596; > > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > > 502-584-7255 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Conklin via CnC-List > > To: Stus-List > > Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com ; John Conklin > > > > Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 9:40 pm > > Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37 > > > > OK lets see if this works from my 82- 37 > > after sending and filing on work google drive, renaming and > > changing restrictions and copying link Here you go !! > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/10uaMbhSuU1ugwDZEVNXaIN-NkrVQXZ-U/view?usp=sharing > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/125h-CtaY1Cj9oSpy9fW29uGGrAFCysiC/view?usp=sharing > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/18MLaBCwqN1eWIXQAIBtbNThUYRgra5mD/view?usp=sharing > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DRQsrhHy7FbIHp3iD_2BIBk63SZHMAI6/view?usp=sharing > > > > John Conklin > > S/V Halcyon > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via > > CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > > > Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. > > > As others have noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is > > > less than ideal, if not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should > > > consider? > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list > > > to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the > > > list - use PayPal to send contribution -- > > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > > > > > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to > > > the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your > > > support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- > > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - > > > Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to > > help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list > > - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > Thanks - Stu > > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to > > help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list > > - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > > - Stu > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
John, Many thanks for going to the trouble of posting photos. My ‘82 37 appears to have the identical setup. And so equally less than ideal. Is one of the projects that I need to push beyond thought exercise. So far my mind has been stuck in Rube-Goldbergian quicksand. 🙄 One of the main issues is the height of the pedestal and the requisite bracing for a tall rudder post extension. Another is tiller length. A ”bicycle handlebar” type yoke that reaches around both sides of the pedestal above the seating or coaming height could work 🤪 ... still rather R-G. To date I’m unimpressed with the reach of my imagination. But I really should move on something 😊 Hans R S/V Ete’ Seattle, WA Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List > wrote: > > > The photos came through clear; thank you! > > Richard > s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37; Ohio River, Mile 596; > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > -Original Message- > From: John Conklin via CnC-List > To: Stus-List > Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com ; John Conklin > > Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 9:40 pm > Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37 > > OK lets see if this works from my 82- 37 > after sending and filing on work google drive, renaming and changing > restrictions and copying link Here you go !! > https://drive.google.com/file/d/10uaMbhSuU1ugwDZEVNXaIN-NkrVQXZ-U/view?usp=sharing > https://drive.google.com/file/d/125h-CtaY1Cj9oSpy9fW29uGGrAFCysiC/view?usp=sharing > https://drive.google.com/file/d/18MLaBCwqN1eWIXQAIBtbNThUYRgra5mD/view?usp=sharing > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DRQsrhHy7FbIHp3iD_2BIBk63SZHMAI6/view?usp=sharing > > John Conklin > S/V Halcyon > > >> On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. As others have >> noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is less than ideal, if >> not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should consider? >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with >> the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - >> Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
Close but Not 100% shoulda done a video. Plenty of steerage for an emergency situation for sure! On Apr 16, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: John, thanks very much. From your pics, that’s just my set up. So you can get full steerage from that angle—no conflict with wheel? On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 7:18 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: John, I'd like to see your pics, thanks! Richard s.v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fmaps%2Fsearch%2F2950%2BBreckenridge%2BLane%3Fentry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg&data=04%7C01%7C%7C41a99bf05dd34a45650b08d901487a55%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637542233063017893%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lB9QQ5YENcK61ti6QfHAIQStNRaOKj5WCMgKbh8J%2FJY%3D&reserved=0>, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: John Conklin via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com<mailto:petemcm...@gmail.com> mailto:petemcm...@gmail.com>>; John Conklin mailto:jconk...@hotmail.com>> Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 9:26 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37 Hi Peter, On My 37 the access plate just under helm seat is remover and a long pole with square base is inserted into matching female square top of the rudder post. The pole only fits/aims sideways ( toward engine control panel) and you actually steer from there. After reading about this topic last year I decided to check it out and document it. I have pics but its too much of a pain to post pics on here using google drive. Happy to send them along if anyone would like to see the emergency tiller system, really works nice, and I could see steering with this in a pinch no problem. John Conklin S/v Halcyon On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. As others have noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is less than ideal, if not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should consider? Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=04%7C01%7C%7C41a99bf05dd34a45650b08d901487a55%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637542233063027884%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=x8K4RFeVfjdODSJp4CnJrF6aJUWHRQ%2B1krI6MCC2wMk%3D&reserved=0> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=04%7C01%7C%7C41a99bf05dd34a45650b08d901487a55%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637542233063027884%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=x8K4RFeVfjdODSJp4CnJrF6aJUWHRQ%2B1krI6MCC2wMk%3D&reserved=0> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=04%7C01%7C%7C41a99bf05dd34a45650b08d901487a55%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637542233063037879%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=10NiV1M6y1EW9QGAHE1dGaeetVEXDyRgkQMG5FCK500%3D&reserved=0> Thanks - Stu -- Peter McMinn _/) Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
Thanks Len, Yes, pretty robust system for sure. I tried it and moving the rudder was like using a tiller ( sideways) Hoping to never need to use this feature no matter how well it works John Conklin S/V Halcyon > On Apr 16, 2021, at 10:29 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List > wrote: > > John, that looks like great leverage. I applaud you for testing it before you > need it. Every C&C will be a little different. Mine is short and almost > impossible to use in moderate wind without a winch. It’s worth trying before > shit happens. Auto helm is your friend if something goes bad FYI. Len. > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6e8a2c43e1334fd3b4fc08d901489ab9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637542233608303899%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=VE3Nwr1g9332gMs8b9lmI8V8AnH%2Ft1aGwwoehZabBRQ%3D&reserved=0 > Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
John, that looks like great leverage. I applaud you for testing it before you need it. Every C&C will be a little different. Mine is short and almost impossible to use in moderate wind without a winch. It’s worth trying before shit happens. Auto helm is your friend if something goes bad FYI. Len. Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
John, thanks very much. From your pics, that’s just my set up. So you can get full steerage from that angle—no conflict with wheel? On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 7:18 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > John, I'd like to see your pics, thanks! > > Richard > s.v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > 2950 Breckenridge Lane > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2950+Breckenridge+Lane?entry=gmail&source=g>, > Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > -Original Message- > From: John Conklin via CnC-List > To: Stus-List > Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com ; John Conklin < > jconk...@hotmail.com> > Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 9:26 pm > Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37 > > Hi Peter, > On My 37 the access plate just under helm seat is remover and a long pole > with square base is inserted into matching female square top of the rudder > post. The pole only fits/aims sideways ( toward engine control panel) and > you actually steer from there. > After reading about this topic last year I decided to check it out and > document it. I have pics but its too much of a pain to post pics on here > using google drive. Happy to send them along if anyone would like to see > the emergency tiller system, really works nice, and I could see steering > with this in a pinch no problem. > > John Conklin > S/v Halcyon > > On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. As others > have noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is less than > ideal, if not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should consider? > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - > Stu > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu -- Peter McMinn _/) Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
The photos came through clear; thank you! Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: John Conklin via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com ; John Conklin Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 9:40 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37 OK lets see if this works from my 82- 37 after sending and filing on work google drive, renaming and changing restrictions and copying link Here you go !! https://drive.google.com/file/d/10uaMbhSuU1ugwDZEVNXaIN-NkrVQXZ-U/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/125h-CtaY1Cj9oSpy9fW29uGGrAFCysiC/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/18MLaBCwqN1eWIXQAIBtbNThUYRgra5mD/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1DRQsrhHy7FbIHp3iD_2BIBk63SZHMAI6/view?usp=sharing John Conklin S/V Halcyon On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List wrote: Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. As others have noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is less than ideal, if not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should consider?Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
John, I'd like to see your pics, thanks! Richard s.v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: John Conklin via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com ; John Conklin Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 9:26 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37 Hi Peter,On My 37 the access plate just under helm seat is remover and a long pole with square base is inserted into matching female square top of the rudder post. The pole only fits/aims sideways ( toward engine control panel) and you actually steer from there.After reading about this topic last year I decided to check it out and document it. I have pics but its too much of a pain to post pics on here using google drive. Happy to send them along if anyone would like to see the emergency tiller system, really works nice, and I could see steering with this in a pinch no problem. John ConklinS/v Halcyon On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List wrote: Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. As others have noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is less than ideal, if not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should consider?Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
OK lets see if this works from my 82- 37 after sending and filing on work google drive, renaming and changing restrictions and copying link Here you go !! https://drive.google.com/file/d/10uaMbhSuU1ugwDZEVNXaIN-NkrVQXZ-U/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/125h-CtaY1Cj9oSpy9fW29uGGrAFCysiC/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/18MLaBCwqN1eWIXQAIBtbNThUYRgra5mD/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DRQsrhHy7FbIHp3iD_2BIBk63SZHMAI6/view?usp=sharing John Conklin S/V Halcyon On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. As others have noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is less than ideal, if not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should consider? Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
Hi Peter, On My 37 the access plate just under helm seat is remover and a long pole with square base is inserted into matching female square top of the rudder post. The pole only fits/aims sideways ( toward engine control panel) and you actually steer from there. After reading about this topic last year I decided to check it out and document it. I have pics but its too much of a pain to post pics on here using google drive. Happy to send them along if anyone would like to see the emergency tiller system, really works nice, and I could see steering with this in a pinch no problem. John Conklin S/v Halcyon On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. As others have noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is less than ideal, if not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should consider? Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
I have needed our emergency tiller in a squall before. Long story short, try it before you need it. Some boats need the wheel removed and some need you to use the primary winches. Spare steering cables are gold in a remote area. Len Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
