Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Bill Coleman]

Beautiful upgrades, he really put a ton of money into that boat!

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: JohnKelly Cuthbertson [mailto:j...@motiondesignslimited.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

 

Usual Suspect

https://ca.boats.com/sailing-boats/1974-43-ft-c-c-bruckmann-built-custom-1974-2003-2013-6343754/

JK



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Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Paul Fountain]

Was owned by Brian Sims  out of Bronte Yacht Club and sailed to the south 
pacific where he sold it about 2018.

From: JohnKelly Cuthbertson 
Sent: October 20, 2020 9:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!


Usual Suspect

https://ca.boats.com/sailing-boats/1974-43-ft-c-c-bruckmann-built-custom-1974-2003-2013-6343754/

JK
[cid:image001.jpg@01D6A6C4.1CAE63C0]
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[JohnKelly Cuthbertson]

  
  
Usual Suspect
https://ca.boats.com/sailing-boats/1974-43-ft-c-c-bruckmann-built-custom-1974-2003-2013-6343754/
JK


  

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Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[JohnKelly Cuthbertson]

  
  
My list includes a 43 named Usual Suspect but I have no hull
  number or who it was built for.
JK


  
  

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Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 Wasn't there a 43 named Esta Es (or something like that) on Lake Michigan? Or 
was it a 44?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30-1
STL

On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 02:32:14 PM CDT, Robert Mazza 
 wrote:


David, 

Don't remember their original names, do you? 

Rob

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM David Risch  wrote:
Rob,

 

Incredibly we had 2 43’s in Marion at the same time.  “X Dimension” owned by 
Dave Collins and Chip John’s boat (name escapes me right now).

 

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Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[David Risch]

Heated agreement with Andrew.   In short…they s_ck.

From: Andrew Burton 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 11:31 AM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

I looked a car with a VW Diesel engine and bought it because the engine is so 
good. But it is not the same as the Pathfinder diesel. I have delivered and 
worked on several boats with Pathfinders and developed a real dislike for them. 
To the point where if I had a boat with one I’d be repowering as soon as I 
could.
Talk to marine mechanics about them. I doubt you'll get many positive reviews.
Andy
Baltic 47 Masquerade
Currently waiting for weather in Atlantic City.

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Oct 16, 2020, at 09:40, Robert Abbott 
mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
jarel

No experience with the marinized VW engine ...From the site I have attached, it 
says "

§  Timing Belt – this is rubber and although no problem on the shoreside 
engines, the marine engine belts seem to deteriorate quiet quickly and snap.

https://www.brighthubengineering.com/marine-engines-machinery/105910-design-operation-and-overhaul-of-pathfinder-marine-engine/

As I mentioned, a club member has/had a VW marinized engine (not sure of 
HP)he did not realize it had a timing belt and it broke and destroyed the 
engine.  He had to repower.

FYI

Rob Abbott

AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 10/15/2020 6:33 PM, ja...@jpiworldwide.com<mailto:ja...@jpiworldwide.com> 
wrote:
Thanks! It is a Pathfinder Marine 50 Diesel

JP

From: Robert Abbott <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:20 PM
To: Stus-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; 
ja...@jpiworldwide.com<mailto:ja...@jpiworldwide.com>
Subject: Stus-List I'm Bck!

jarel.

Ensure your engine is a Volkswagen Pathfinder marine diesel 50 hp and if the 
engine has a 'timing belt'.some VW diesels have a timing belt and when it 
breaks, so does the engine.

 A club member here just experienced it this season.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.
On 10/15/2020 11:21 AM, ja...@jpiworldwide.com<mailto:ja...@jpiworldwide.com> 
wrote:


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Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Robert Mazza]

Hi Andrew,

Yes, *Buzzy* Schofield.  I had forgotten, but knew "Albert" was far too
formal.

Rob

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:02 PM Andrew Burton 
wrote:

> Thanks, Rob. I didn't realize Buzzy Schofield hadn't commissioned Arieto.
> I sailed with both him and Russell on their nearly identical Frers 46s
> called Arieto and Destination. They were very close friends and their boat
> captains were brothers!
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
>
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Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Andrew Burton]

I looked a car with a VW Diesel engine and bought it because the engine is so 
good. But it is not the same as the Pathfinder diesel. I have delivered and 
worked on several boats with Pathfinders and developed a real dislike for them. 
To the point where if I had a boat with one I’d be repowering as soon as I 
could.
Talk to marine mechanics about them. I doubt you'll get many positive reviews.
Andy
Baltic 47 Masquerade
Currently waiting for weather in Atlantic City.


Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Oct 16, 2020, at 09:40, Robert Abbott  wrote:
> 
> jarel
> 
> No experience with the marinized VW engine ...From the site I have attached, 
> it says "
> Timing Belt – this is rubber and although no problem on the shoreside 
> engines, the marine engine belts seem to deteriorate quiet quickly and snap.
> https://www.brighthubengineering.com/marine-engines-machinery/105910-design-operation-and-overhaul-of-pathfinder-marine-engine/
> 
> As I mentioned, a club member has/had a VW marinized engine (not sure of 
> HP)he did not realize it had a timing belt and it broke and destroyed the 
> engine.  He had to repower.
> 
> FYI
> 
> Rob Abbott
> 
> AZURA
> 
> C&C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
> 
>> On 10/15/2020 6:33 PM, ja...@jpiworldwide.com wrote:
>> Thanks! It is a Pathfinder Marine 50 Diesel
>> 
>> JP
>>  
>> From: Robert Abbott  
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:20 PM
>> To: Stus-List ; ja...@jpiworldwide.com
>> Subject: Stus-List I'm Bck!
>>  
>> jarel.
>> 
>> Ensure your engine is a Volkswagen Pathfinder marine diesel 50 hp and if the 
>> engine has a 'timing belt'.some VW diesels have a timing belt and when 
>> it breaks, so does the engine.
>> 
>>  A club member here just experienced it this season. 
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - #277
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> On 10/15/2020 11:21 AM, ja...@jpiworldwide.com wrote:
>> 
> 
> October is the time to show your appreciation with a small contribution to 
> this list to help offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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[jarel]

Thanks much

 

JP

 

From: Robert Abbott  
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 6:41 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List I'm Bck!

 

jarel

No experience with the marinized VW engine ...From the site I have attached,
it says "



*  Timing Belt - this is rubber and although no problem on the shoreside
engines, the marine engine belts seem to deteriorate quiet quickly and snap.

https://www.brighthubengineering.com/marine-engines-machinery/105910-design-
operation-and-overhaul-of-pathfinder-marine-engine/

As I mentioned, a club member has/had a VW marinized engine (not sure of
HP)he did not realize it had a timing belt and it broke and destroyed
the engine.  He had to repower.

FYI

Rob Abbott

AZURA

C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.



On 10/15/2020 6:33 PM, ja...@jpiworldwide.com
  wrote:

Thanks! It is a Pathfinder Marine 50 Diesel


JP

 

From: Robert Abbott  
 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:20 PM
To: Stus-List   ;
ja...@jpiworldwide.com  
Subject: Stus-List I'm Bck!

 

jarel.

Ensure your engine is a Volkswagen Pathfinder marine diesel 50 hp and if the
engine has a 'timing belt'.some VW diesels have a timing belt and when
it breaks, so does the engine.

 A club member here just experienced it this season. 

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 10/15/2020 11:21 AM, ja...@jpiworldwide.com
  wrote:

 

 

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Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Chuck Borge]

X-Dimension was won by lottery by a fella on the north shore. 
I ran into him in Beverly while I was prepping my new-to-me 41. 
MIT gave the boat away by lottery, as it was in need of substantial refit work 
per their survey. 
I chose not to enter, but I understand only a handful did. 
I looked like someone with time, space and a little (maybe a lot) cash could do 
wonders with that boat. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2020, at 8:07 AM, David Risch  wrote:
> 
> 
> No but X Dimension was red…can find out easily enough.
>  
> From: Robert Mazza  
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:32 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Bck!
>  
> David, 
>  
> Don't remember their original names, do you? 
>  
> Rob
>  
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM David Risch  wrote:
> Rob,
>  
> Incredibly we had 2 43’s in Marion at the same time.  “X Dimension” owned by 
> Dave Collins and Chip John’s boat (name escapes me right now).
>  
> 
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Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[David Risch]

No but X Dimension was red…can find out easily enough.

From: Robert Mazza 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:32 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

David,

Don't remember their original names, do you?

Rob

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM David Risch 
mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>> wrote:
Rob,

Incredibly we had 2 43’s in Marion at the same time.  “X Dimension” owned by 
Dave Collins and Chip John’s boat (name escapes me right now).

From: Robert Mazza mailto:robertlma...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:05 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Bck!

Hi JP,

Yes, welcome back, and congratulations on your fine taste. ;-)

The first C&C 43 was Arieto, commissioned by Mason Pearsall in 1970. She did 
very well in the 1971 SORC, and was later owned by Albert Schofield who raced 
her in the 1972 SORC. Alethea was a slightly later model with a modified aft 
end and a new more vertical rudder. She won Division B in the 1973 SORC. I 
believe there were 15 or 16 C&C 43s built, including  #2 Destination -owned by 
Russell Hoyt, Endurance - by Roger Derusha (Dean Derusha monitors this site), 
Caprice owned originally, I believe, by John Fergus, #5 was Avanti owned Sid 
Bregman and later by  the artist Christopher Pratt who named her Dry Fly, #8  
was Rampage owned John Odenbach and then by Randy Bell, #9 – Butterfly – Bruce 
Sully,  #10 – Night Train – Blair Vedder, #11 was commisiond by Dean Stiles of 
Belvedere, CA, but I can't remember her name. The last C&C 43 built was Long 
Reach owned by Dick Scott of Hamilton, ON.  If anyone can fill in the gaps in 
my memory, I would be grateful!

Rob Mazza

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:21 AM 
mailto:ja...@jpiworldwide.com>> wrote:
[cid:image001.gif@01D6A309.53421080]
Hi All,

Well, after a few years of wishing I had a boat again, I am back on the list!
I am so excited I am making puddles under my chair…

A few days ago I purchased Alethea, a C&C 43-1!

Whew… long dry spell.

I had been on this list and had a C&C 34 called “Gabriella” that I brought up 
river from Seattle To Clarkston Washington and sailed it there a few years ago, 
then sold it to a great couple in the Tri-Cities of Washington because life had 
started taking some crazy twists as it often can.  I had owned several 
“cruising” boats before…but  I was spoiled by “Gabby”. Her balance underway was 
incredible and for a smaller racer/cruiser she was pretty comfortable…even 
lived aboard for a few months on her and just felt at home.
I loved my C&C but decided to just look at boat ads for a couple years waiting 
to find “the just right one” again… I didn’t plan on buying another C&C but 
wanted a decent cruising boat as I am getting to that stage in life where 
extended cruising is now a possibility.

So… in my search for a new boat… I kept drifting back to a C&C. To be fair, I 
had considered everything from a Morgan to Petersen to CT-47 and dozens of 
other boats in all configurations (even thought about a Amel Maramu I kinda 
liked, but decided it would be good to be able to eat while I cruised and 
figured it was a bit out of the budget). So after a dozen or sea trials, 
discussions with every owner about their boat I was interested in, I decided on 
the CT-47….  then when I was about to pull the trigger on the CT, I saw the C&C 
43… I couldn’t find a reason not to buy her. I looked at the pictures I was 
sent of the boat and remembered why I loved Gabby… I am not a hard core racer, 
but a little speed never hurt anyone… she looked like she was screaming through 
the water at breakneck speed tied to the dock. She was well fitted, clean, and 
the owner had some pride in her. The survey said she was in good shape…and once 
again… I was hooked. When you look at a C&C’s numbers and performance as a 
cruiser rather than a racer, they may be a bit light, but they stand up well 
statistically to other cruisers… https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-43-1

As of now Alethea is laying in the Long Beach Ca. area and I am trying to 
figure out if I wanna sail her next summer up to the Seattle area or move her 
by truck to Seattle now…Any thoughts? Know of any deals on trucking? I could 
sail her up next summer when the weather is better in the Pacific for a few 
weeks… but I also want to get her on the hard this winter and start fitting her 
for extended cruising. As of last Tuesday she is going through the 
documentation process here in the States as I wanted her to be a documented 
vessel for my cruising purposes.

I am glad to be on the Stu’s list again… I always found this community to be 
well versed in the C&C world, and you all were a great help with Gabby. I 
appreciated the input everyone had…

Currently Alethea has a modest set of sails, a Pathfinder 50 engine, some 
average electronics, and the previous owner had kept her up on the inside. I 
pla

Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Andrew Burton]

Thanks, Rob. I didn't realize Buzzy Schofield hadn't commissioned Arieto. I 
sailed with both him and Russell on their nearly identical Frers 46s called 
Arieto and Destination. They were very close friends and their boat captains 
were brothers!
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 17:35,   
> wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> The first C&C 43 was Arieto, commissioned by Mason Pearsall in 1970. She did 
> very well in the 1971 SORC, and was later owned by Albert Schofield who raced 
> her in the 1972 SORC. Alethea was a slightly later model with a modified aft 
> end and a new more vertical rudder. She won Division B in the 1973 SORC. I 
> believe there were 15 or 16 C&C 43s built, including  #2 Destination -owned 
> by Russell Hoyt, Endurance - by Roger Derusha (Dean Derusha monitors this 
> site), Caprice owned originally, I believe, by John Fergus, #5 was Avanti 
> owned Sid Bregman and later by  the artist Christopher Pratt who named her 
> Dry Fly, #8  was Rampage owned John Odenbach and then by Randy Bell, #9 – 
> Butterfly – Bruce Sully,  #10 – Night Train – Blair Vedder, #11 was 
> commisiond by Dean Stiles of Belvedere, CA, but I can't remember her name. 
> The last C&C 43 built was Long Reach owned by Dick Scott of Hamilton, ON.  If 
> anyone can fill in the gaps in my memory, I would be grateful! 
>  
> Rob Mazza
>  
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:21 AM  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> Well, after a few years of wishing I had a boat again, I am back on the list!
> I am so excited I am making puddles under my chair…
>  
> A few days ago I purchased Alethea, a C&C 43-1!
>  
> Whew… long dry spell.
>  
> I had been on this list and had a C&C 34 called “Gabriella” that I brought up 
> river from Seattle To Clarkston Washington and sailed it there a few years 
> ago, then sold it to a great couple in the Tri-Cities of Washington because 
> life had started taking some crazy twists as it often can.  I had owned 
> several “cruising” boats before…but  I was spoiled by “Gabby”. Her balance 
> underway was incredible and for a smaller racer/cruiser she was pretty 
> comfortable…even lived aboard for a few months on her and just felt at home.
> I loved my C&C but decided to just look at boat ads for a couple years 
> waiting to find “the just right one” again… I didn’t plan on buying another 
> C&C but wanted a decent cruising boat as I am getting to that stage in life 
> where extended cruising is now a possibility.
>  
> So… in my search for a new boat… I kept drifting back to a C&C. To be fair, I 
> had considered everything from a Morgan to Petersen to CT-47 and dozens of 
> other boats in all configurations (even thought about a Amel Maramu I kinda 
> liked, but decided it would be good to be able to eat while I cruised and 
> figured it was a bit out of the budget). So after a dozen or sea trials, 
> discussions with every owner about their boat I was interested in, I decided 
> on the CT-47….  then when I was about to pull the trigger on the CT, I saw 
> the C&C 43… I couldn’t find a reason not to buy her. I looked at the pictures 
> I was sent of the boat and remembered why I loved Gabby… I am not a hard core 
> racer, but a little speed never hurt anyone… she looked like she was 
> screaming through the water at breakneck speed tied to the dock. She was well 
> fitted, clean, and the owner had some pride in her. The survey said she was 
> in good shape…and once again… I was hooked. When you look at a C&C’s numbers 
> and performance as a cruiser rather than a racer, they may be a bit light, 
> but they stand up well statistically to other cruisers… 
> https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-43-1
>  
> As of now Alethea is laying in the Long Beach Ca. area and I am trying to 
> figure out if I wanna sail her next summer up to the Seattle area or move her 
> by truck to Seattle now…Any thoughts? Know of any deals on trucking? I could 
> sail her up next summer when the weather is better in the Pacific for a few 
> weeks… but I also want to get her on the hard this winter and start fitting 
> her for extended cruising. As of last Tuesday she is going through the 
> documentation process here in the States as I wanted her to be a documented 
> vessel for my cruising purposes.
>  
> I am glad to be on the Stu’s list again… I always found this community to be 
> well versed in the C&C world, and you all were a great help with Gabby. I 
> appreciated the input everyone had…
>  
> Currently Alethea has a modest set of sails, a Pathfinder 50 engine, some 
> average electronics, and the previous owner had kept her up on the inside. I 
> plan on mounting a windlass, redoing and adding some electronics, going 
> through the engine (never worked on a Pathfinder before, but I understand 
> they are a Volkswagen engine and parts are cheap and easy…)… adding an 
> autopilot and possibly a windvane, Solar and other power,

Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[jarel]

Thanks SO MUCH for the history lesson! This is incredible info!


JP

 

From: Robert Mazza  
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 12:05 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

 

Hi JP,

 

Yes, welcome back, and congratulations on your fine taste. ;-) 

 

The first C&C 43 was Arieto, commissioned by Mason Pearsall in 1970. She did 
very well in the 1971 SORC, and was later owned by Albert Schofield who raced 
her in the 1972 SORC. Alethea was a slightly later model with a modified aft 
end and a new more vertical rudder. She won Division B in the 1973 SORC. I 
believe there were 15 or 16 C&C 43s built, including  #2 Destination -owned by 
Russell Hoyt, Endurance - by Roger Derusha (Dean Derusha monitors this site), 
Caprice owned originally, I believe, by John Fergus, #5 was Avanti owned Sid 
Bregman and later by  the artist Christopher Pratt who named her Dry Fly, #8  
was Rampage owned John Odenbach and then by Randy Bell, #9 – Butterfly – Bruce 
Sully,  #10 – Night Train – Blair Vedder, #11 was commisiond by Dean Stiles of 
Belvedere, CA, but I can't remember her name. The last C&C 43 built was Long 
Reach owned by Dick Scott of Hamilton, ON.  If anyone can fill in the gaps in 
my memory, I would be grateful! 

 

Rob Mazza

 

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:21 AM mailto:ja...@jpiworldwide.com> > wrote:



Hi All,

 

Well, after a few years of wishing I had a boat again, I am back on the list!

I am so excited I am making puddles under my chair…

 

A few days ago I purchased Alethea, a C&C 43-1! 

 

Whew… long dry spell. 

 

I had been on this list and had a C&C 34 called “Gabriella” that I brought up 
river from Seattle To Clarkston Washington and sailed it there a few years ago, 
then sold it to a great couple in the Tri-Cities of Washington because life had 
started taking some crazy twists as it often can.  I had owned several 
“cruising” boats before…but  I was spoiled by “Gabby”. Her balance underway was 
incredible and for a smaller racer/cruiser she was pretty comfortable…even 
lived aboard for a few months on her and just felt at home.

I loved my C&C but decided to just look at boat ads for a couple years waiting 
to find “the just right one” again… I didn’t plan on buying another C&C but 
wanted a decent cruising boat as I am getting to that stage in life where 
extended cruising is now a possibility. 

 

So… in my search for a new boat… I kept drifting back to a C&C. To be fair, I 
had considered everything from a Morgan to Petersen to CT-47 and dozens of 
other boats in all configurations (even thought about a Amel Maramu I kinda 
liked, but decided it would be good to be able to eat while I cruised and 
figured it was a bit out of the budget). So after a dozen or sea trials, 
discussions with every owner about their boat I was interested in, I decided on 
the CT-47….  then when I was about to pull the trigger on the CT, I saw the C&C 
43… I couldn’t find a reason not to buy her. I looked at the pictures I was 
sent of the boat and remembered why I loved Gabby… I am not a hard core racer, 
but a little speed never hurt anyone… she looked like she was screaming through 
the water at breakneck speed tied to the dock. She was well fitted, clean, and 
the owner had some pride in her. The survey said she was in good shape…and once 
again… I was hooked. When you look at a C&C’s numbers and performance as a 
cruiser rather than a racer, they may be a bit light, but they stand up well 
statistically to other cruisers… https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-43-1 

 

As of now Alethea is laying in the Long Beach Ca. area and I am trying to 
figure out if I wanna sail her next summer up to the Seattle area or move her 
by truck to Seattle now…Any thoughts? Know of any deals on trucking? I could 
sail her up next summer when the weather is better in the Pacific for a few 
weeks… but I also want to get her on the hard this winter and start fitting her 
for extended cruising. As of last Tuesday she is going through the 
documentation process here in the States as I wanted her to be a documented 
vessel for my cruising purposes. 

 

I am glad to be on the Stu’s list again… I always found this community to be 
well versed in the C&C world, and you all were a great help with Gabby. I 
appreciated the input everyone had…

 

Currently Alethea has a modest set of sails, a Pathfinder 50 engine, some 
average electronics, and the previous owner had kept her up on the inside. I 
plan on mounting a windlass, redoing and adding some electronics, going through 
the engine (never worked on a Pathfinder before, but I understand they are a 
Volkswagen engine and parts are cheap and easy…)… adding an autopilot and 
possibly a windvane, Solar and other power, perhaps mount a generator in there 
somewhere, a watermaker, refrigeration re-do (I know… it sounds like she is 
getting heavy), add some tankage… and a few other upgrades… Is the mast 

Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[jarel]

Thanks! It is a Pathfinder Marine 50 Diesel


JP

 

From: Robert Abbott  
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:20 PM
To: Stus-List ; ja...@jpiworldwide.com
Subject: Stus-List I'm Bck!

 

jarel.

Ensure your engine is a Volkswagen Pathfinder marine diesel 50 hp and if the
engine has a 'timing belt'.some VW diesels have a timing belt and when
it breaks, so does the engine.

 A club member here just experienced it this season. 

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 10/15/2020 11:21 AM, ja...@jpiworldwide.com
  wrote:



Hi All,

 

Well, after a few years of wishing I had a boat again, I am back on the
list!

I am so excited I am making puddles under my chair.

 

A few days ago I purchased Alethea, a C&C 43-1! 

 

Whew. long dry spell. 

 

I had been on this list and had a C&C 34 called "Gabriella" that I brought
up river from Seattle To Clarkston Washington and sailed it there a few
years ago, then sold it to a great couple in the Tri-Cities of Washington
because life had started taking some crazy twists as it often can.  I had
owned several "cruising" boats before.but  I was spoiled by "Gabby". Her
balance underway was incredible and for a smaller racer/cruiser she was
pretty comfortable.even lived aboard for a few months on her and just felt
at home.

I loved my C&C but decided to just look at boat ads for a couple years
waiting to find "the just right one" again. I didn't plan on buying another
C&C but wanted a decent cruising boat as I am getting to that stage in life
where extended cruising is now a possibility. 

 

So. in my search for a new boat. I kept drifting back to a C&C. To be fair,
I had considered everything from a Morgan to Petersen to CT-47 and dozens of
other boats in all configurations (even thought about a Amel Maramu I kinda
liked, but decided it would be good to be able to eat while I cruised and
figured it was a bit out of the budget). So after a dozen or sea trials,
discussions with every owner about their boat I was interested in, I decided
on the CT-47..  then when I was about to pull the trigger on the CT, I saw
the C&C 43. I couldn't find a reason not to buy her. I looked at the
pictures I was sent of the boat and remembered why I loved Gabby. I am not a
hard core racer, but a little speed never hurt anyone. she looked like she
was screaming through the water at breakneck speed tied to the dock. She was
well fitted, clean, and the owner had some pride in her. The survey said she
was in good shape.and once again. I was hooked. When you look at a C&C's
numbers and performance as a cruiser rather than a racer, they may be a bit
light, but they stand up well statistically to other cruisers.
https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-43-1 

 

As of now Alethea is laying in the Long Beach Ca. area and I am trying to
figure out if I wanna sail her next summer up to the Seattle area or move
her by truck to Seattle now.Any thoughts? Know of any deals on trucking? I
could sail her up next summer when the weather is better in the Pacific for
a few weeks. but I also want to get her on the hard this winter and start
fitting her for extended cruising. As of last Tuesday she is going through
the documentation process here in the States as I wanted her to be a
documented vessel for my cruising purposes. 

 

I am glad to be on the Stu's list again. I always found this community to be
well versed in the C&C world, and you all were a great help with Gabby. I
appreciated the input everyone had.

 

Currently Alethea has a modest set of sails, a Pathfinder 50 engine, some
average electronics, and the previous owner had kept her up on the inside. I
plan on mounting a windlass, redoing and adding some electronics, going
through the engine (never worked on a Pathfinder before, but I understand
they are a Volkswagen engine and parts are cheap and easy.). adding an
autopilot and possibly a windvane, Solar and other power, perhaps mount a
generator in there somewhere, a watermaker, refrigeration re-do (I know. it
sounds like she is getting heavy), add some tankage. and a few other
upgrades. Is the mast far enough back to turn her into a cutter? Gabby had a
jack-stay for rig tuning I think, but I never used it for flying a staysail
or storm sail..An extra knot on a long passage never hurts either.So I am
studying conversions from sloop to cutter. will it screw up the legendary
balance of a C&C?  I'm not sure a Solient rig is right for a C&C, anyone
have any ideas? Leave the rig alone?

 

I'd also like to know more about her history. I have seen some threads on
different forums about a boat of similar name but as far as I can tell that
one lies on the Great Lakes or East Coast now. Alethea was her "original"
name as best I can find out, but she was also known as Orange Peel a couple
years ago in the Southern California area.I am going to use her "original
name" of Alethea. Orange Peel just doesn't do it for me. 

 

Any help with info would be much appreciat

Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Greg Alimenti]

There was also Phantom owned by Jimmy Walch of Escanaba, MI.

From: David Risch [mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:25 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

Rob,

Incredibly we had 2 43’s in Marion at the same time.  “X Dimension” owned by 
Dave Collins and Chip John’s boat (name escapes me right now).

From: Robert Mazza mailto:robertlma...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:05 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Bck!

Hi JP,

Yes, welcome back, and congratulations on your fine taste. ;-)

The first C&C 43 was Arieto, commissioned by Mason Pearsall in 1970. She did 
very well in the 1971 SORC, and was later owned by Albert Schofield who raced 
her in the 1972 SORC. Alethea was a slightly later model with a modified aft 
end and a new more vertical rudder. She won Division B in the 1973 SORC. I 
believe there were 15 or 16 C&C 43s built, including  #2 Destination -owned by 
Russell Hoyt, Endurance - by Roger Derusha (Dean Derusha monitors this site), 
Caprice owned originally, I believe, by John Fergus, #5 was Avanti owned Sid 
Bregman and later by  the artist Christopher Pratt who named her Dry Fly, #8  
was Rampage owned John Odenbach and then by Randy Bell, #9 – Butterfly – Bruce 
Sully,  #10 – Night Train – Blair Vedder, #11 was commisiond by Dean Stiles of 
Belvedere, CA, but I can't remember her name. The last C&C 43 built was Long 
Reach owned by Dick Scott of Hamilton, ON.  If anyone can fill in the gaps in 
my memory, I would be grateful!

Rob Mazza

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:21 AM 
mailto:ja...@jpiworldwide.com>> wrote:
[cid:image001.gif@01D6A30A.D2A64200]
Hi All,

Well, after a few years of wishing I had a boat again, I am back on the list!
I am so excited I am making puddles under my chair…

A few days ago I purchased Alethea, a C&C 43-1!

Whew… long dry spell.

I had been on this list and had a C&C 34 called “Gabriella” that I brought up 
river from Seattle To Clarkston Washington and sailed it there a few years ago, 
then sold it to a great couple in the Tri-Cities of Washington because life had 
started taking some crazy twists as it often can.  I had owned several 
“cruising” boats before…but  I was spoiled by “Gabby”. Her balance underway was 
incredible and for a smaller racer/cruiser she was pretty comfortable…even 
lived aboard for a few months on her and just felt at home.
I loved my C&C but decided to just look at boat ads for a couple years waiting 
to find “the just right one” again… I didn’t plan on buying another C&C but 
wanted a decent cruising boat as I am getting to that stage in life where 
extended cruising is now a possibility.

So… in my search for a new boat… I kept drifting back to a C&C. To be fair, I 
had considered everything from a Morgan to Petersen to CT-47 and dozens of 
other boats in all configurations (even thought about a Amel Maramu I kinda 
liked, but decided it would be good to be able to eat while I cruised and 
figured it was a bit out of the budget). So after a dozen or sea trials, 
discussions with every owner about their boat I was interested in, I decided on 
the CT-47….  then when I was about to pull the trigger on the CT, I saw the C&C 
43… I couldn’t find a reason not to buy her. I looked at the pictures I was 
sent of the boat and remembered why I loved Gabby… I am not a hard core racer, 
but a little speed never hurt anyone… she looked like she was screaming through 
the water at breakneck speed tied to the dock. She was well fitted, clean, and 
the owner had some pride in her. The survey said she was in good shape…and once 
again… I was hooked. When you look at a C&C’s numbers and performance as a 
cruiser rather than a racer, they may be a bit light, but they stand up well 
statistically to other cruisers… https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-43-1

As of now Alethea is laying in the Long Beach Ca. area and I am trying to 
figure out if I wanna sail her next summer up to the Seattle area or move her 
by truck to Seattle now…Any thoughts? Know of any deals on trucking? I could 
sail her up next summer when the weather is better in the Pacific for a few 
weeks… but I also want to get her on the hard this winter and start fitting her 
for extended cruising. As of last Tuesday she is going through the 
documentation process here in the States as I wanted her to be a documented 
vessel for my cruising purposes.

I am glad to be on the Stu’s list again… I always found this community to be 
well versed in the C&C world, and you all were a great help with Gabby. I 
appreciated the input everyone had…

Currently Alethea has a modest set of sails, a Pathfinder 50 engine, some 
average electronics, and the previous owner had kept her up on the inside. I 
plan on mounting a windlass, redoing and adding some electronics, going through 
the engine (never worked on a Pathfinder b

Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Robert Mazza]

David,

Don't remember their original names, do you?

Rob

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM David Risch  wrote:

> Rob,
>
>
>
> Incredibly we had 2 43’s in Marion at the same time.  “X Dimension” owned
> by Dave Collins and Chip John’s boat (name escapes me right now).
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Mazza 
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:05 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: I'm Bck!
>
>
>
> Hi JP,
>
>
>
> Yes, welcome back, and congratulations on your fine taste. ;-)
>
>
>
> The first C&C 43 was *Arieto*, commissioned by Mason Pearsall in 1970.
> She did very well in the 1971 SORC, and was later owned by Albert Schofield
> who raced her in the 1972 SORC. *Alethea* was a slightly later model with
> a modified aft end and a new more vertical rudder. She won Division B in
> the 1973 SORC. I believe there were 15 or 16 C&C 43s built, including
> #2 Destination -owned by Russell Hoyt, *Endurance* - by Roger Derusha
> (Dean Derusha monitors this site),* Caprice* owned originally, I believe,
> by John Fergus, #5 was *Avanti* owned Sid Bregman and later by  the
> artist Christopher Pratt who named her *Dry Fly*, #8  was *Rampage* owned John
> Odenbach and then by Randy Bell, #9 – *Butterfly* – Bruce Sully,  #10 – *Night
> Train* – Blair Vedder, #11 was commisiond by Dean Stiles of Belvedere,
> CA, but I can't remember her name. The last C&C 43 built was *Long Reach*
> owned by Dick Scott of Hamilton, ON.  If anyone can fill in the gaps in my
> memory, I would be grateful!
>
>
>
> Rob Mazza
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:21 AM  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Well, after a few years of wishing I had a boat again, I am back on the
> list!
>
> I am so excited I am making puddles under my chair…
>
>
>
> A few days ago I purchased Alethea, a C&C 43-1!
>
>
>
> Whew… long dry spell.
>
>
>
> I had been on this list and had a C&C 34 called “Gabriella” that I brought
> up river from Seattle To Clarkston Washington and sailed it there a few
> years ago, then sold it to a great couple in the Tri-Cities of Washington
> because life had started taking some crazy twists as it often can.  I had
> owned several “cruising” boats before…but  I was spoiled by “Gabby”. Her
> balance underway was incredible and for a smaller racer/cruiser she was
> pretty comfortable…even lived aboard for a few months on her and just felt
> at home.
>
> I loved my C&C but decided to just look at boat ads for a couple years
> waiting to find “the just right one” again… I didn’t plan on buying another
> C&C but wanted a decent cruising boat as I am getting to that stage in life
> where extended cruising is now a possibility.
>
>
>
> So… in my search for a new boat… I kept drifting back to a C&C. To be
> fair, I had considered everything from a Morgan to Petersen to CT-47 and
> dozens of other boats in all configurations (even thought about a Amel
> Maramu I kinda liked, but decided it would be good to be able to eat while
> I cruised and figured it was a bit out of the budget). So after a dozen or
> sea trials, discussions with every owner about their boat I was interested
> in, I decided on the CT-47….  then when I was about to pull the trigger on
> the CT, I saw the C&C 43… I couldn’t find a reason not to buy her. I looked
> at the pictures I was sent of the boat and remembered why I loved Gabby… I
> am not a hard core racer, but a little speed never hurt anyone… she looked
> like she was screaming through the water at breakneck speed tied to the
> dock. She was well fitted, clean, and the owner had some pride in her. The
> survey said she was in good shape…and once again… I was hooked. When you
> look at a C&C’s numbers and performance as a cruiser rather than a racer,
> they may be a bit light, but they stand up well statistically to other
> cruisers… https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-43-1
>
>
>
> As of now Alethea is laying in the Long Beach Ca. area and I am trying to
> figure out if I wanna sail her next summer up to the Seattle area or move
> her by truck to Seattle now…Any thoughts? Know of any deals on trucking? I
> could sail her up next summer when the weather is better in the Pacific for
> a few weeks… but I also want to get her on the hard this winter and start
> fitting her for extended cruising. As of last Tuesday she is going through
> the documentation process here in the States as I wanted her to be a
> documented vessel for my cruising purposes.
>
>
>
> I am glad to be on the Stu’s list again… I always found this community to
> be well versed in the C&C world, and you all were a great help with Gabby.
> I appreciated 

Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[David Risch]

Rob,

Incredibly we had 2 43’s in Marion at the same time.  “X Dimension” owned by 
Dave Collins and Chip John’s boat (name escapes me right now).

From: Robert Mazza 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:05 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

Hi JP,

Yes, welcome back, and congratulations on your fine taste. ;-)

The first C&C 43 was Arieto, commissioned by Mason Pearsall in 1970. She did 
very well in the 1971 SORC, and was later owned by Albert Schofield who raced 
her in the 1972 SORC. Alethea was a slightly later model with a modified aft 
end and a new more vertical rudder. She won Division B in the 1973 SORC. I 
believe there were 15 or 16 C&C 43s built, including  #2 Destination -owned by 
Russell Hoyt, Endurance - by Roger Derusha (Dean Derusha monitors this site), 
Caprice owned originally, I believe, by John Fergus, #5 was Avanti owned Sid 
Bregman and later by  the artist Christopher Pratt who named her Dry Fly, #8  
was Rampage owned John Odenbach and then by Randy Bell, #9 – Butterfly – Bruce 
Sully,  #10 – Night Train – Blair Vedder, #11 was commisiond by Dean Stiles of 
Belvedere, CA, but I can't remember her name. The last C&C 43 built was Long 
Reach owned by Dick Scott of Hamilton, ON.  If anyone can fill in the gaps in 
my memory, I would be grateful!

Rob Mazza

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:21 AM 
mailto:ja...@jpiworldwide.com>> wrote:
[cid:image001.gif@01D6A307.533B44A0]
Hi All,

Well, after a few years of wishing I had a boat again, I am back on the list!
I am so excited I am making puddles under my chair…

A few days ago I purchased Alethea, a C&C 43-1!

Whew… long dry spell.

I had been on this list and had a C&C 34 called “Gabriella” that I brought up 
river from Seattle To Clarkston Washington and sailed it there a few years ago, 
then sold it to a great couple in the Tri-Cities of Washington because life had 
started taking some crazy twists as it often can.  I had owned several 
“cruising” boats before…but  I was spoiled by “Gabby”. Her balance underway was 
incredible and for a smaller racer/cruiser she was pretty comfortable…even 
lived aboard for a few months on her and just felt at home.
I loved my C&C but decided to just look at boat ads for a couple years waiting 
to find “the just right one” again… I didn’t plan on buying another C&C but 
wanted a decent cruising boat as I am getting to that stage in life where 
extended cruising is now a possibility.

So… in my search for a new boat… I kept drifting back to a C&C. To be fair, I 
had considered everything from a Morgan to Petersen to CT-47 and dozens of 
other boats in all configurations (even thought about a Amel Maramu I kinda 
liked, but decided it would be good to be able to eat while I cruised and 
figured it was a bit out of the budget). So after a dozen or sea trials, 
discussions with every owner about their boat I was interested in, I decided on 
the CT-47….  then when I was about to pull the trigger on the CT, I saw the C&C 
43… I couldn’t find a reason not to buy her. I looked at the pictures I was 
sent of the boat and remembered why I loved Gabby… I am not a hard core racer, 
but a little speed never hurt anyone… she looked like she was screaming through 
the water at breakneck speed tied to the dock. She was well fitted, clean, and 
the owner had some pride in her. The survey said she was in good shape…and once 
again… I was hooked. When you look at a C&C’s numbers and performance as a 
cruiser rather than a racer, they may be a bit light, but they stand up well 
statistically to other cruisers… https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-43-1

As of now Alethea is laying in the Long Beach Ca. area and I am trying to 
figure out if I wanna sail her next summer up to the Seattle area or move her 
by truck to Seattle now…Any thoughts? Know of any deals on trucking? I could 
sail her up next summer when the weather is better in the Pacific for a few 
weeks… but I also want to get her on the hard this winter and start fitting her 
for extended cruising. As of last Tuesday she is going through the 
documentation process here in the States as I wanted her to be a documented 
vessel for my cruising purposes.

I am glad to be on the Stu’s list again… I always found this community to be 
well versed in the C&C world, and you all were a great help with Gabby. I 
appreciated the input everyone had…

Currently Alethea has a modest set of sails, a Pathfinder 50 engine, some 
average electronics, and the previous owner had kept her up on the inside. I 
plan on mounting a windlass, redoing and adding some electronics, going through 
the engine (never worked on a Pathfinder before, but I understand they are a 
Volkswagen engine and parts are cheap and easy…)… adding an autopilot and 
possibly a windvane, Solar and other power, perhaps mount a generator in there 
somewhere, a watermaker, refrigeration re-do (I know… it sounds like she is 
getting heavy),

Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[Robert Mazza]

Hi JP,

Yes, welcome back, and congratulations on your fine taste. ;-)

The first C&C 43 was *Arieto*, commissioned by Mason Pearsall in 1970. She
did very well in the 1971 SORC, and was later owned by Albert Schofield who
raced her in the 1972 SORC. *Alethea* was a slightly later model with a
modified aft end and a new more vertical rudder. She won Division B in the
1973 SORC. I believe there were 15 or 16 C&C 43s built, including  #2
Destination
-owned by Russell Hoyt, *Endurance* - by Roger Derusha (Dean Derusha
monitors this site), *Caprice* owned originally, I believe, by John Fergus, #5
was *Avanti* owned Sid Bregman and later by  the artist Christopher Pratt
who named her *Dry Fly*, #8  was *Rampage* owned John Odenbach and then by
Randy Bell, #9 – *Butterfly* – Bruce Sully,  #10 – *Night Train* – Blair
Vedder, #11 was commisiond by Dean Stiles of Belvedere, CA, but I can't
remember her name. The last C&C 43 built was *Long Reach* owned by Dick
Scott of Hamilton, ON.  If anyone can fill in the gaps in my memory, I
would be grateful!

Rob Mazza

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:21 AM  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Well, after a few years of wishing I had a boat again, I am back on the
> list!
>
> I am so excited I am making puddles under my chair…
>
>
>
> A few days ago I purchased Alethea, a C&C 43-1!
>
>
>
> Whew… long dry spell.
>
>
>
> I had been on this list and had a C&C 34 called “Gabriella” that I brought
> up river from Seattle To Clarkston Washington and sailed it there a few
> years ago, then sold it to a great couple in the Tri-Cities of Washington
> because life had started taking some crazy twists as it often can.  I had
> owned several “cruising” boats before…but  I was spoiled by “Gabby”. Her
> balance underway was incredible and for a smaller racer/cruiser she was
> pretty comfortable…even lived aboard for a few months on her and just felt
> at home.
>
> I loved my C&C but decided to just look at boat ads for a couple years
> waiting to find “the just right one” again… I didn’t plan on buying another
> C&C but wanted a decent cruising boat as I am getting to that stage in life
> where extended cruising is now a possibility.
>
>
>
> So… in my search for a new boat… I kept drifting back to a C&C. To be
> fair, I had considered everything from a Morgan to Petersen to CT-47 and
> dozens of other boats in all configurations (even thought about a Amel
> Maramu I kinda liked, but decided it would be good to be able to eat while
> I cruised and figured it was a bit out of the budget). So after a dozen or
> sea trials, discussions with every owner about their boat I was interested
> in, I decided on the CT-47….  then when I was about to pull the trigger on
> the CT, I saw the C&C 43… I couldn’t find a reason not to buy her. I looked
> at the pictures I was sent of the boat and remembered why I loved Gabby… I
> am not a hard core racer, but a little speed never hurt anyone… she looked
> like she was screaming through the water at breakneck speed tied to the
> dock. She was well fitted, clean, and the owner had some pride in her. The
> survey said she was in good shape…and once again… I was hooked. When you
> look at a C&C’s numbers and performance as a cruiser rather than a racer,
> they may be a bit light, but they stand up well statistically to other
> cruisers… https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-43-1
>
>
>
> As of now Alethea is laying in the Long Beach Ca. area and I am trying to
> figure out if I wanna sail her next summer up to the Seattle area or move
> her by truck to Seattle now…Any thoughts? Know of any deals on trucking? I
> could sail her up next summer when the weather is better in the Pacific for
> a few weeks… but I also want to get her on the hard this winter and start
> fitting her for extended cruising. As of last Tuesday she is going through
> the documentation process here in the States as I wanted her to be a
> documented vessel for my cruising purposes.
>
>
>
> I am glad to be on the Stu’s list again… I always found this community to
> be well versed in the C&C world, and you all were a great help with Gabby.
> I appreciated the input everyone had…
>
>
>
> Currently Alethea has a modest set of sails, a Pathfinder 50 engine, some
> average electronics, and the previous owner had kept her up on the inside.
> I plan on mounting a windlass, redoing and adding some electronics, going
> through the engine (never worked on a Pathfinder before, but I understand
> they are a Volkswagen engine and parts are cheap and easy…)… adding an
> autopilot and possibly a windvane, Solar and other power, perhaps mount a
> generator in there somewhere, a watermaker, refrigeration re-do (I know… it
> sounds like she is getting heavy), add some tankage… and a few other
> upgrades… Is the mast far enough back to turn her into a cutter? Gabby had
> a jack-stay for rig tuning I think, but I never used it for flying a
> staysail or storm sail….An extra knot on a long passage never hurts
> either…So I am stu

Stus-List Re: I'm Baaaack!

[David Risch]

Welcome back!!

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


From: ja...@jpiworldwide.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:21:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List I'm Bck!



Hi All,



Well, after a few years of wishing I had a boat again, I am back on the list!

I am so excited I am making puddles under my chair…



A few days ago I purchased Alethea, a C&C 43-1!



Whew… long dry spell.



I had been on this list and had a C&C 34 called “Gabriella” that I brought up 
river from Seattle To Clarkston Washington and sailed it there a few years ago, 
then sold it to a great couple in the Tri-Cities of Washington because life had 
started taking some crazy twists as it often can.  I had owned several 
“cruising” boats before…but  I was spoiled by “Gabby”. Her balance underway was 
incredible and for a smaller racer/cruiser she was pretty comfortable…even 
lived aboard for a few months on her and just felt at home.

I loved my C&C but decided to just look at boat ads for a couple years waiting 
to find “the just right one” again… I didn’t plan on buying another C&C but 
wanted a decent cruising boat as I am getting to that stage in life where 
extended cruising is now a possibility.



So… in my search for a new boat… I kept drifting back to a C&C. To be fair, I 
had considered everything from a Morgan to Petersen to CT-47 and dozens of 
other boats in all configurations (even thought about a Amel Maramu I kinda 
liked, but decided it would be good to be able to eat while I cruised and 
figured it was a bit out of the budget). So after a dozen or sea trials, 
discussions with every owner about their boat I was interested in, I decided on 
the CT-47….  then when I was about to pull the trigger on the CT, I saw the C&C 
43… I couldn’t find a reason not to buy her. I looked at the pictures I was 
sent of the boat and remembered why I loved Gabby… I am not a hard core racer, 
but a little speed never hurt anyone… she looked like she was screaming through 
the water at breakneck speed tied to the dock. She was well fitted, clean, and 
the owner had some pride in her. The survey said she was in good shape…and once 
again… I was hooked. When you look at a C&C’s numbers and performance as a 
cruiser rather than a racer, they may be a bit light, but they stand up well 
statistically to other cruisers… https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-43-1



As of now Alethea is laying in the Long Beach Ca. area and I am trying to 
figure out if I wanna sail her next summer up to the Seattle area or move her 
by truck to Seattle now…Any thoughts? Know of any deals on trucking? I could 
sail her up next summer when the weather is better in the Pacific for a few 
weeks… but I also want to get her on the hard this winter and start fitting her 
for extended cruising. As of last Tuesday she is going through the 
documentation process here in the States as I wanted her to be a documented 
vessel for my cruising purposes.



I am glad to be on the Stu’s list again… I always found this community to be 
well versed in the C&C world, and you all were a great help with Gabby. I 
appreciated the input everyone had…



Currently Alethea has a modest set of sails, a Pathfinder 50 engine, some 
average electronics, and the previous owner had kept her up on the inside. I 
plan on mounting a windlass, redoing and adding some electronics, going through 
the engine (never worked on a Pathfinder before, but I understand they are a 
Volkswagen engine and parts are cheap and easy…)… adding an autopilot and 
possibly a windvane, Solar and other power, perhaps mount a generator in there 
somewhere, a watermaker, refrigeration re-do (I know… it sounds like she is 
getting heavy), add some tankage… and a few other upgrades… Is the mast far 
enough back to turn her into a cutter? Gabby had a jack-stay for rig tuning I 
think, but I never used it for flying a staysail or storm sail….An extra knot 
on a long passage never hurts either…So I am studying conversions from sloop to 
cutter… will it screw up the legendary balance of a C&C?  I’m not sure a 
Solient rig is right for a C&C, anyone have any ideas? Leave the rig alone?



I’d also like to know more about her history… I have seen some threads on 
different forums about a boat of similar name but as far as I can tell that one 
lies on the Great Lakes or East Coast now… Alethea was her “original” name as 
best I can find out, but she was also known as Orange Peel a couple years ago 
in the Southern California area…I am going to use her “original name” of 
Alethea… Orange Peel just doesn’t do it for me.



Any help with info would be much appreciated as would ideas on what to do with 
upgrades for cruising, Pathfinder Engines, cutter rigs on C&C and so on…



Pics will be posted once I start work on her…



Thanks and hello again!

JP


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