Stus-List Re: Main Halyard Dilemma

[Charles Ferrari via CnC-List]

When removing the spinnaker topping lift line, I pulled it out from the bottom 
of the mast. It got caught on the spreader support inside the mast. I needed to 
attach a hook to the main halyard through the access port at deck level  that 
contained the halyard sheaves. I "fished" up the mast to catch the tangle and 
through pulling up on halyard and down on the topping line it came free.

From: Raymond Macklin via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Raymond Macklin 
Subject: Stus-List Main Halyard Dilemma

Hello:

I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the last 
three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and store the 
main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it down it does not 
want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull it back up 6".  so it 
does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to make sure it was not 
hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the main halyard down.  Has 
anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a suggestion or solution in mind?

Thanks,
Ray Macklin
LakeHouse, Milwaukee
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[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

This one has my vote, as it happened several times when I was pulling my
halyards back in with the mast horizontal - the thin lines would jump the
sheave and get jammed. I suggest going aloft on a jib halyard to inspect.

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On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 3:18 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> What Jim said. It probably popped up over the sheave, & the skinny
> messenger is jammed. Take a picture with somebody's telephoto lens, or go
> up on the jib halyard.
>
> Bill
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 5:53 PM Jim Watts via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> It's possible it may have jumped a sheave at the masthead. Can you see
>> what the deal is up there with binoculars?
>>
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 13:17, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for
>>> the last three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up
>>> and store the main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it
>>> down it does not want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull
>>> it back up 6".  so it does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to
>>> make sure it was not hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the
>>> main halyard down.  Has anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a
>>> suggestion or solution in mind?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ray Macklin
>>> LakeHouse, Milwaukee
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>> Thanks - Stu
>>
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Stus-List Re: Main Halyard Dilemma

[james drew via CnC-List]

We drop our masts every fall. One spring the main halyard was jammed when 
raised.  Going up the mast, we found the main halyard was off the sheave and 
was jammed between the topping lift halyard sheave and the main halyard sheave. 
 It was pulled out of the jam and put back on the main halyard sheave. 

Washers to tighten up were inserted the next time the mast was dropped.

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Agreed. 
> 
> All the best, 
> 
> Edd
> 
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> C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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> 
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 6:32 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Pull harder. If you break it it should be replaced anyway
> 
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 5:17 PM Raymond Macklin via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the 
> last three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and 
> store the main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it down 
> it does not want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull it back 
> up 6".  so it does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to make sure 
> it was not hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the main halyard 
> down.  Has anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a suggestion or 
> solution in mind?  
> 
> Thanks,
> Ray Macklin
> LakeHouse, Milwaukee
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>   Thanks - Stu
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[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Agreed. 

All the best, 

Edd

———-
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Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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On Jun 11, 2021, at 6:32 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List  
wrote:


Pull harder. If you break it it should be replaced anyway

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 5:17 PM Raymond Macklin via CnC-List 
 wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the 
> last three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and 
> store the main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it down 
> it does not want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull it back 
> up 6".  so it does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to make sure 
> it was not hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the main halyard 
> down.  Has anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a suggestion or 
> solution in mind?  
> 
> Thanks,
> Ray Macklin
> LakeHouse, Milwaukee
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Main Halyard Dilemma

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Pull harder. If you break it it should be replaced anyway

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 5:17 PM Raymond Macklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello:
>
> I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the
> last three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and
> store the main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it
> down it does not want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull
> it back up 6".  so it does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to
> make sure it was not hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the
> main halyard down.  Has anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a
> suggestion or solution in mind?
>
> Thanks,
> Ray Macklin
> LakeHouse, Milwaukee
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu

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[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

What Jim said. It probably popped up over the sheave, & the skinny
messenger is jammed. Take a picture with somebody's telephoto lens, or go
up on the jib halyard.

Bill

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 5:53 PM Jim Watts via CnC-List 
wrote:

> It's possible it may have jumped a sheave at the masthead. Can you see
> what the deal is up there with binoculars?
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 13:17, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the
>> last three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and
>> store the main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it
>> down it does not want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull
>> it back up 6".  so it does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to
>> make sure it was not hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the
>> main halyard down.  Has anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a
>> suggestion or solution in mind?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ray Macklin
>> LakeHouse, Milwaukee
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
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[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

My jib got stuck like that.  It was fouled at the top.  The end of the cable 
looked like a pig's curly tail.  I had to send someone up the bosuns chair to 
untangle it.

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From: Jim Watts via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 1:52:40 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Jim Watts 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Main Halyard Dilemma

It's possible it may have jumped a sheave at the masthead. Can you see what the 
deal is up there with binoculars?

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 13:17, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello:

I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the last 
three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and store the 
main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it down it does not 
want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull it back up 6".  so it 
does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to make sure it was not 
hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the main halyard down.  Has 
anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a suggestion or solution in mind?

Thanks,
Ray Macklin
LakeHouse, Milwaukee
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[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

It's possible it may have jumped a sheave at the masthead. Can you see what
the deal is up there with binoculars?

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 13:17, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello:
>
> I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the
> last three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and
> store the main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it
> down it does not want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull
> it back up 6".  so it does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to
> make sure it was not hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the
> main halyard down.  Has anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a
> suggestion or solution in mind?
>
> Thanks,
> Ray Macklin
> LakeHouse, Milwaukee
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Why do you pull the halyard into the mast? I've been sailing for more than
fifty years, and I have never done that on any of my boats. It's not
necessary.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:34 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> That happened to me once. It turned out the wind instrument cable was
> getting pulled into the sheave. Pull the halyard up or down to the point
> where it's loose. Then try pulling the wind instrument cable down, from
> where it comes out of the mast, until it is snug. Don't tug too hard. Then
> try the halyard again. If that doesn't work, you might have to go up the
> mast and look at it closely. If it does work, you still might have to go up
> the mast, and inspect the wind instrument cable. Mine got stripped, and I
> ended up soldering the individual wires and heat shrinking insulation
> around them. Not an easy job while swinging from the top of the mast.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:17 PM Raymond Macklin via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the
>> last three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and
>> store the main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it
>> down it does not want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull
>> it back up 6".  so it does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to
>> make sure it was not hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the
>> main halyard down.  Has anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a
>> suggestion or solution in mind?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ray Macklin
>> LakeHouse, Milwaukee
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>>  Thanks - Stu
>
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[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

That happened to me once. It turned out the wind instrument cable was
getting pulled into the sheave. Pull the halyard up or down to the point
where it's loose. Then try pulling the wind instrument cable down, from
where it comes out of the mast, until it is snug. Don't tug too hard. Then
try the halyard again. If that doesn't work, you might have to go up the
mast and look at it closely. If it does work, you still might have to go up
the mast, and inspect the wind instrument cable. Mine got stripped, and I
ended up soldering the individual wires and heat shrinking insulation
around them. Not an easy job while swinging from the top of the mast.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:17 PM Raymond Macklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello:
>
> I have a 1985 CNC 33-2.   I have been using the same main halyard for the
> last three years.  Every winter I connect a line to it and pull it up and
> store the main halyard in the mast over the winter.  I went to bring it
> down it does not want to come down.  I am able to pull it down 6" and pull
> it back up 6".  so it does move.  all the other halyards i have loosened to
> make sure it was not hanging up on them.   I am still unable to pull the
> main halyard down.  Has anyone ever run into this and does anyone have a
> suggestion or solution in mind?
>
> Thanks,
> Ray Macklin
> LakeHouse, Milwaukee
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
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>  Thanks - Stu
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